Weapon enchants on consoles not fixed?

Swomp23 · November 2018

From today's Natch Potes XBone :

Fixed several issues with Poisons and Weapon Enchantments.
All Poisons now correctly proc 20% of the time when any Light Attack, Heavy Attack, or weapon ability deals damage.
Food and Drink will now provide the correct stat bonuses if they are consumed while you have a Poison equipped.
All Weapon Enchantments now correctly proc 100% of the time when not on cooldown when any Light Attack, Heavy Attack, or weapon ability deals damage.
When Dual Wielding, casting a weapon ability can now proc the Weapon Enchantment of either weapon. The system will favor proccing a Weapon Enchantment that is not on cooldown.

Exactly the same text as PC's 4.2.5

Does it means that weapon dots will still proc enchants on console? Does it mean that even the bug where Twin Slashes ticks were proccing both enchants (fixed in pc's 4.2.6) is not fixed?

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam Can we get an update on this please?

Beardimus · November 2018

That's a worry if so, in particular if we have to wait 3 months for a fix!

React · November 2018

I imagine that we won't receive the enchant fixes until the first incremental, which is usually 3 weeks after the patch.

That being said, I'm not even sure if they fixed dizzying swing, snipe, dark flare, etc for the console release. I'll be getting on later today to test them for myself; but if they failed to get this fix in, there really is no point in playing PvP on a dswing setup until the incremental. God bless Zenimax for putting in bare minimum effort with 100% consistency.

Swomp23 · November 2018

Liam12548 wrote: »

I imagine that we won't receive the enchant fixes until the first incremental, which is usually 3 weeks after the patch.

That being said, I'm not even sure if they fixed dizzying swing, snipe, dark flare, etc for the console release. I'll be getting on later today to test them for myself; but if they failed to get this fix in, there really is no point in playing PvP on a dswing setup until the incremental. God bless Zenimax for putting in bare minimum effort with 100% consistency.

To be fair, it might not be competly thair fault. Microsoft and Sony require a very long lead time to check games patches. Probably, when they fixed enchants on PC, patch was already sent for approval for a long time.

On the other hand, none of this would have happened if they fixed it during PTS. But since everyone and their mother was crying about sorc's shields...

All I want is a confirmation from ZOS (or someone with NASA's internet that already downloaded the whole 50Gb patch). If we have to deal with cancer for 3 months, we might as well adapt to it.

React · November 2018

Swomp23 wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

I imagine that we won't receive the enchant fixes until the first incremental, which is usually 3 weeks after the patch.

That being said, I'm not even sure if they fixed dizzying swing, snipe, dark flare, etc for the console release. I'll be getting on later today to test them for myself; but if they failed to get this fix in, there really is no point in playing PvP on a dswing setup until the incremental. God bless Zenimax for putting in bare minimum effort with 100% consistency.

To be fair, it might not be competly thair fault. Microsoft and Sony require a very long lead time to check games patches. Probably, when they fixed enchants on PC, patch was already sent for approval for a long time.

On the other hand, none of this would have happened if they fixed it during PTS. But since everyone and their mother was crying about sorc's shields...

My understanding is that they can pay to expedite patches like this, but choose not to because sometimes, as @ZOS_Wrobel says, you just gotta "Let it bake".

Tatanko · November 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

That's a worry if so, in particular if we have to wait 3 months for a fix!

Swomp23 wrote: »

If we have to deal with cancer for 3 months, we might as well adapt to it.

PC player here: where are you pulling 3 weeks and 3 months from? The months number especially seems out of nowhere.

Swomp23 · November 2018

@Tatanko It was guessed from the time it takes to get a new major patch. I recently came back to the game and I don't know if we get a lot of incremental patches on consoles, with the approval delays and all this. But you're right, in fact I don't know. That's why I'm asking the question.

I also don't want to live what you PC players got (quoting @Oreyn_Bearclaw ), i.e. making a whole new build to roll with the flow, then being told that the changes will be reverted in 3 days.

Number_51 · November 2018

Tatanko wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

That's a worry if so, in particular if we have to wait 3 months for a fix!

Swomp23 wrote: »

If we have to deal with cancer for 3 months, we might as well adapt to it.

PC player here: where are you pulling 3 weeks and 3 months from? The months number especially seems out of nowhere.

Worst I remember was three months, or more, to fix hitting a load screen every 50 feet of travel or so right after Thieves Guild released. Took around three weeks for the permanent load screen in Cyrodiil when Clockwork City released.

Arkangeloski · November 2018

Thanks for the info! Since i'm not embracing the cheese and neither i want to be cheesed on

, with that said it will be a nice vacation untill the next incremental patch, and it gives me the excuse i was looking for to play rdr2 n v76

Swomp23 · November 2018

Arkangeloski wrote: »

Thanks for the info! Since i'm not embracing the cheese and neither i want to be cheesed on , with that said it will be a nice vacation untill the next incremental patch, and it gives me the excuse i was looking for to play rdr2 n v76

Yeah, but as a broke *** pleb, I was kinda relying on farming and selling spell strategist gear... Apparently, inferno staff still sells for 600k - 1M on PC....

randomkeyhits · November 2018

Swomp23 wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

I imagine that we won't receive the enchant fixes until the first incremental, which is usually 3 weeks after the patch.

That being said, I'm not even sure if they fixed dizzying swing, snipe, dark flare, etc for the console release. I'll be getting on later today to test them for myself; but if they failed to get this fix in, there really is no point in playing PvP on a dswing setup until the incremental. God bless Zenimax for putting in bare minimum effort with 100% consistency.

To be fair, it might not be competly thair fault. Microsoft and Sony require a very long lead time to check games patches. Probably, when they fixed enchants on PC, patch was already sent for approval for a long time.

On the other hand, none of this would have happened if they fixed it during PTS. But since everyone and their mother was crying about sorc's shields...

All I want is a confirmation from ZOS (or someone with NASA's internet that already downloaded the whole 50Gb patch). If we have to deal with cancer for 3 months, we might as well adapt to it.

Well, no, other games can manage timely hotfixes, I'm assuming that there is an additional cost for fast pathing a hot fix that ZOS don't want to pay.

On PS4, DE say Warframe is in cert, usually within a week I'm playing the new update so that is a time-frame I should reasonably expect.

ZOS seems to be the only company I know of that consistently does not hotfix.

Syiccal · November 2018

@Zos_ginabruno can we get an answer for this please..I'm hoping that the notes are just a copy and paste and its been over looked but has been fixed for console

valeriiya · November 2018

randomkeyhits wrote: »

Swomp23 wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

I imagine that we won't receive the enchant fixes until the first incremental, which is usually 3 weeks after the patch.

That being said, I'm not even sure if they fixed dizzying swing, snipe, dark flare, etc for the console release. I'll be getting on later today to test them for myself; but if they failed to get this fix in, there really is no point in playing PvP on a dswing setup until the incremental. God bless Zenimax for putting in bare minimum effort with 100% consistency.

To be fair, it might not be competly thair fault. Microsoft and Sony require a very long lead time to check games patches. Probably, when they fixed enchants on PC, patch was already sent for approval for a long time.

On the other hand, none of this would have happened if they fixed it during PTS. But since everyone and their mother was crying about sorc's shields...

All I want is a confirmation from ZOS (or someone with NASA's internet that already downloaded the whole 50Gb patch). If we have to deal with cancer for 3 months, we might as well adapt to it.

Well, no, other games can manage timely hotfixes, I'm assuming that there is an additional cost for fast pathing a hot fix that ZOS don't want to pay.

On PS4, DE say Warframe is in cert, usually within a week I'm playing the new update so that is a time-frame I should reasonably expect.

ZOS seems to be the only company I know of that consistently does not hotfix.

There is a cost to it and we know that ZO$ will not go for it, unless it's the Crown Store of course, then take the whole damn down.

MilwaukeeScott · November 2018

We are always behind in patches

supaskrub · November 2018

Swomp23 wrote: »

To be fair, it might not be competly thair fault. Microsoft and Sony require a very long lead time to check games patches. Probably, when they fixed enchants on PC, patch was already sent for approval for a long time.

Sony and Microsoft are big businesses, you can shorten certification process by paying a premium, if these bugs get through then guess what..,

Swomp23 · November 2018

supaskrub wrote: »

Swomp23 wrote: »

To be fair, it might not be competly thair fault. Microsoft and Sony require a very long lead time to check games patches. Probably, when they fixed enchants on PC, patch was already sent for approval for a long time.

Sony and Microsoft are big businesses, you can shorten certification process by paying a premium, if these bugs get through then guess what..,

I agree. My point is that the goal of this thread is not to throw rocks at anyone. All I ask is an honest and quick answer about if the changes have been implemented to console but there's an error in the patch notes, or if not, when can we expect them to be fixed.

ZOS_GinaBruno · November 2018

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

Syiccal · November 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

when will this be please

Swomp23 · November 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

First, thank you for your answer.

Second, as @Syiccal kindly asked, can we get a rough ETA?

ZOS_GinaBruno · November 2018

Swomp23 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

First, thank you for your answer.

Second, as @Syiccal kindly asked, can we get a rough ETA?

We don't have a date set for it yet, but it'll be at least a few weeks.

Swomp23 · November 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Swomp23 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

First, thank you for your answer.

Second, as @Syiccal kindly asked, can we get a rough ETA?

We don't have a date set for it yet, but it'll be at least a few weeks.

Thank you very much. Although I don't appreciate the news, I very much appreciate your honesty. At least we know what to expect.

Sandman929 · November 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

So I would assume that everything from PC v4.2.6 is in the console patch, yes? At least a few weeks of console aproccalypse isn't great news, but at least they aren't both firing at once.

Twohothardware · November 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

So all the fixes from the PC patch v4.2.6 should be in today's console patch and we're just waiting on the fixes from PC v4.2.7 to come later.

EvilAutoTech · November 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

Translation:

Go ahead and cheese in purple but don't gold it out.

BTW, we love you Gina.

dotme · November 2018

Twohothardware wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

So all the fixes from the PC patch v4.2.6 should be in today's console patch and we're just waiting on the fixes from PC v4.2.7 to come later.

Not from what I can see.

"Fixed an issue where single-target cast time abilities, such as Uppercut or Dark Flare, would cancel the cast immediately if you did not keep your target within your reticle during the entire cast time."

Source: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/443312/pc-mac-patch-notes-v4-2-6

I don't think that's fixed for me on console. Just tested by lining up a Dizzying Swing on a target dummy, looked away mid-cast, and it canceled completely.

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you double-check what's included in today's console download? If the single-target cast time abilities fix for PC from 4.2.6 isn't in there, that's a huge disappointment. Again.

Swomp23 · November 2018

EvilAutoTech wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

Translation:

Go ahead and cheese in purple but don't gold it out.

BTW, we love you Gina.

Lol, I'm still golding those DW Thorugs. I like my cheese grated

Vesper_BR · November 2018

dotme wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

So, there are two issues that you may be referring to. The fix from PC v4.2.6 with Dual Wielding is in today's console patch, but the changes to some weapon abilities no longer triggering Enchantments will be in the next incremental patch.

So all the fixes from the PC patch v4.2.6 should be in today's console patch and we're just waiting on the fixes from PC v4.2.7 to come later.

Not from what I can see.

"Fixed an issue where single-target cast time abilities, such as Uppercut or Dark Flare, would cancel the cast immediately if you did not keep your target within your reticle during the entire cast time."

Source: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/443312/pc-mac-patch-notes-v4-2-6

I don't think that's fixed for me on console. Just tested by lining up a Dizzying Swing on a target dummy, looked away mid-cast, and it canceled completely.

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you double-check what's included in today's console download? If the single-target cast time abilities fix for PC from 4.2.6 isn't in there, that's a huge disappointment. Again.

Any news about this issue on consoles? I'm outdated...

UppGRAYxDD · November 2018

So, enchantments are still firing on wpn ability dots like rending slash and cleave to name a few, and channelled abilities are still not working unless you keep the reticle on your target for the duration. Can confirm these were still happening on 11/27. Now are these glitches going to be addressed soon (possibly today), or will console players need wait longer to see any fix? @ZOS_GinaBruno

UppGRAYxDD · November 2018

Alrighty, fixed...thx

therift · November 2018

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

So, enchantments are still firing on wpn ability dots like rending slash and cleave to name a few, and channelled abilities are still not working unless you keep the reticle on your target for the duration. Can confirm these were still happening on 11/27. Now are these glitches going to be addressed soon (possibly today), or will console players need wait longer to see any fix? ZOS_GinaBruno

If you wait a few minutes, the Natch Potes will answer all of your questions. If you insist on interrupting Miss Gina, those Natch Potes will take longer to be published

UppGRAYxDD · November 2018

therift wrote: »

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

So, enchantments are still firing on wpn ability dots like rending slash and cleave to name a few, and channelled abilities are still not working unless you keep the reticle on your target for the duration. Can confirm these were still happening on 11/27. Now are these glitches going to be addressed soon (possibly today), or will console players need wait longer to see any fix? ZOS_GinaBruno

If you wait a few minutes, the Natch Potes will answer all of your questions. If you insist on interrupting Miss Gina, those Natch Potes will take longer to be published

If you read one comment above yours....as for interruptions I pay for a monthly service, I think the last 4yrs has paid for my QQs