Why NURF MAG DK MORE!!!!!!!!!!!???????????

JumpmanLane · November 2018

I agree with the op. It takes a ton of skill to play MagDk now. It’s rewarding because of that. It sucks having to rethink a build every patch because of ZOS’s nerfs which no one requested.

I’ve ramped up the damage and not cared if I died. That helps. The great thing about the casuals ZOS seems to cater to is that no matter how easy their builds are to play, they remain garbage and tend to die easily enough lol.

JasonWangTaiwan · November 2018

The one reason mag dk got nerf is that in past 2 year stam dk got nerfed to ground and they change to mag and now devs are doing it again except this time no choices will be left for you to choose.

Haquor · November 2018

Necro thread. Well done.

IZZEFlameLash · November 2018

Necromancer confirmed. Forum PvP class DLC.

Ashtaris · November 2018

What? Don’t you like having no sustain after two rotations?

Cybercore_Death · November 2018

The thing is, even with all the nerfs MagDKs are still more than capable of great numbers, same as every other class.

It's all down to the player and their individual skill. I'm by no means the best at the game. I'm at 42k self buffed on a non meta setup (HA based rota), and according to the "top 1%" 42k self buffed isn't good so by proxy that means I'm not good at the game.

All you have to do is look at the patches where everyone jumped on the "you've ruined X class" bandwagon, then look at build videos and see that people were still hitting during these patches and you'll see that nerfs mean nothing.

ZarkingFrued · November 2018

When someone is running away and hits you with callurians and skoria at the same time while just trying to get away. This is what's ruining the game for me. Proc sets get added every patch, and real combat gets nerfed. Honestly though, just leave mag dk alone lol

SirMewser · November 2018

Paganini wrote: »

I disagree with the OP. I've recently started playing magdk again, after playing some months with all kinds of classes (stamwarden, magwarden, stamplar, magplar, stamsorc, stamnb). I always create my own builds, that fit perfect for me.. And i have to say: MagDK ist pretty sick currently!! Yeah, it's not that hardcore anymore like back to 1.5/1.6, but thats called balance. Just because you're not able to easily tank and kill 6+ ppl anymore, doesn't mean your class is ***. You should maybe start finding the right setup for yourself instead of probably copying builds from other ppl

Reading that made my eyes bleed...

wrathofrraath · March 2019

Yikes

dazee · March 2019

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Every patch it seems the most dedicated players get screwed over by the devs favoring casuals.

The same fleeting complaining casuals who do nothing but spit venom at all areas of the game based on their own lack of skill.

You know that spitting that kind of venom on "Casuals" who pay for 90% of the game you play invalidates your claim of being in any way better than what you describe, if it was even true.

SaintSubwayy · March 2019

dazee wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Every patch it seems the most dedicated players get screwed over by the devs favoring casuals.

The same fleeting complaining casuals who do nothing but spit venom at all areas of the game based on their own lack of skill.

You know that spitting that kind of venom on "Casuals" who pay for 90% of the game you play invalidates your claim of being in any way better than what you describe, if it was even true.

sorry to say it, but he has a valid point IMO.

The game gets watered down patch after patch, just look at the latest changes...dungeon and trial nerfs left and right
jeah we dont know the reason behind those nerfs, but its pretty obvious ZOS is changeing them to please the bigger less skilled playerbase

(no offense) but this playerbase feels so entiteled to get everything without putting some effort in, this cant be good for the game over the long run.

and then on top of making content even more easy (boring) for us hightier players, they also nerf stuff like Dunmers 9% Flamedmg.....which mostly boosted hightier players, or atleast more than casuals. -> thats the nature of % amps
without even thinking about compensating the already lacking DK DPS by any means.

while other classes like Magblade or Magplar, which already deal way less elementaldmg, and nearly pure magicdmg...get buffed due to the added SD....Balance?...na sry thats definetly not balanced.

Yeah casuals pay also alot of money to ZOS, but somehow this fact is overlooked....Casuals in the most cases dont have the feeling for nerfs or Buffs...you could buff highelvs 258 SD to 500SD...casuals wouldnt even notice it, besides higher tooltips
they simply lack the skill needed to feel such changes in combat sorry.

miteba · March 2019

I totally agree with @jdmoonan, rant or not

Each DLC they nerf nerf nerf, not only with nerfmire... And each time they take something special or unique from each class, and they dont add anything in return!

IMO the only class that has been dancing between raindrops is stamina nightblades, and i am not asking nerfs or am i an hater, just stating my opinion.
Warden canibalized other classes to thrieve, mainly the templar class, so i hope that the same does not happen with necromancer...

I still love this game, but i dont think they are doing a great job in this matter and i completely understand players who care about the game they play with so much dedication.

VaranisArano · March 2019

wrathofrraath wrote: »

Yikes

Definitely.

jdmoonan · June 2019

Cybercore_Death wrote: »

The thing is, even with all the nerfs MagDKs are still more than capable of great numbers, same as every other class.

It's all down to the player and their individual skill. I'm by no means the best at the game. I'm at 42k self buffed on a non meta setup (HA based rota), and according to the "top 1%" 42k self buffed isn't good so by proxy that means I'm not good at the game.

All you have to do is look at the patches where everyone jumped on the "you've ruined X class" bandwagon, then look at build videos and see that people were still hitting during these patches and you'll see that nerfs mean nothing.

I have made build videos and montages for magicka dk PVP since basically launch. Nerfs mean a lot, and can determine what tier that class will be in as soon as they hit live. Since 1.5 I have watched mag dk get nerfed 5x the amount of times it has received a buff. Just to put it into terms here we are in Eleswyer and everything was looking good mag dk was getting some great buffs looks like the class is going to be able to be a top tier class once again. Wrong we are going to buff you and then nerf your greatest stam saving skill in the game. Ranged cc spam utterly destroys magicka dk and so what did they do they give you all these great buffs but now you have no way to avoid getting kited and ranged stun spammed long enough to do a full rotation on some, unless they are complete cheeks at the game. Even attempting to fight in an open field as a mag dk this patch is just out of the question unless you have a group or our zerg surfing. For some of us that like to mainly play solo this is quite a huge issue!

jdmoonan · June 2019

Moon

IzzyStardust · June 2019

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

My eyes glazed over trying to read that drivel.

1. It's Nerf, not Nurf. You know, like the toy? That's where the term originated.

2. From PTS posts, the changes to off-balance and flame lash haven't seem to have affected Mag DK at all. If so, only a negligible amount.

First of all; don’t cut on people for not being able to speak a second language as well as you speak your first.

Instead, understand that they had to learn a whole other language to try and get what is actually in the view of many, some valid points across.

Secondly: anyone who really cannot fathom just how much mag DK ha been stamped into the floor - is not paying attention at all.

MartiniDaniels · June 2019

IzzyStardust wrote: »

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

My eyes glazed over trying to read that drivel.

1. It's Nerf, not Nurf. You know, like the toy? That's where the term originated.

2. From PTS posts, the changes to off-balance and flame lash haven't seem to have affected Mag DK at all. If so, only a negligible amount.

First of all; don’t cut on people for not being able to speak a second language as well as you speak your first.

Instead, understand that they had to learn a whole other language to try and get what is actually in the view of many, some valid points across.

Secondly: anyone who really cannot fathom just how much mag DK ha been stamped into the floor - is not paying attention at all.

Lul, that comment was from Jan 2018, that dude probably deleted game long ago

Druid40 · June 2019

I probably should have checked the expiration date on this thread.

IzzyStardust · June 2019

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

IzzyStardust wrote: »

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

My eyes glazed over trying to read that drivel.

1. It's Nerf, not Nurf. You know, like the toy? That's where the term originated.

2. From PTS posts, the changes to off-balance and flame lash haven't seem to have affected Mag DK at all. If so, only a negligible amount.

First of all; don’t cut on people for not being able to speak a second language as well as you speak your first.

Instead, understand that they had to learn a whole other language to try and get what is actually in the view of many, some valid points across.

Secondly: anyone who really cannot fathom just how much mag DK ha been stamped into the floor - is not paying attention at all.

Lul, that comment was from Jan 2018, that dude probably deleted game long ago

My bad I’m sorry farkin necroposters!