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DRAGONKNIGHT REFLECT a little too OP in pvp
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Trancestor✭✭✭✭✭
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've gotEdited by Valrien on November 3, 2018 4:30PMValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake4 -
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✭✭Why do people always demand nerfs instead of counterbuffs?
Is it a hate or a brain thingy?5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »Why do people always demand nerfs instead of counterbuffs?
Is it a hate or a brain thingy?
No. It's because ZOS has a track record of dishing out many, many more nerfs than buffs. OP is just playing the odds.
Edited by Emma_Overload on November 3, 2018 4:51PM#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
RedRook✭✭✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »Why do people always demand nerfs instead of counterbuffs?
Is it a hate or a brain thingy?
Right? It hasn't even been two weeks since the latest round of everybody-gets-a-nerf, and here they are already asking for class skills to be crippled. Wait, you missed one! Make this suck too!0 -
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If this thread is a time machine back to 2014 someone PM me and tell me never to purchase this game in the first place.
Wings were strong at launch because they had no counters. Now there are plenty of counters. If you die to wings, you aren't paying attention.Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on November 3, 2018 6:27PM9 -
Trancestor✭✭✭✭✭Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.Edited by Trancestor on November 3, 2018 6:46PM0 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i ain't playing magblade anymore lol.
Just replying to the other post. Volatile beats cloak. Lul. If you get decloaked by volatile you *** up. Volatile is a close range skill, and deals no dmg cause the dot can be cloaked. It costs about 3k. So, whilst you cloaked, force missed, went invisible and stopped DK dots for 3 ticks, they are flailing around with a near no dmg AoE trying to find you, which they won't at all if you have a shade or have made distance.
If you want an exception to wings, how about have whip hit you though cloak no matter what?MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
Best houseknight EU.3 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Amazing that it's okay for Sorc to do such a thing, but God forbid a Nightblade does itValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake2 -
Trancestor✭✭✭✭✭Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Amazing that it's okay for Sorc to do such a thing, but God forbid a Nightblade does it
Since when do Sorcs change their skills/playstyle to counter wings? Magsorcs use force pulse anyway because they have no class spammable and they use crit surge anyway for major sorcery and the heal.0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
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"Crit Surge" and "Major Sorcery" used in the same sentence?Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Amazing that it's okay for Sorc to do such a thing, but God forbid a Nightblade does it
Since when do Sorcs change their skills/playstyle to counter wings? Magsorcs use force pulse anyway because they have no class spammable and they use crit surge anyway for major sorcery and the heal.
Jesus
Anyways, no. Most Sorcs prefer to use Reach + Master Staff, and their heals are still mostly resto staff.
Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake2 -
RedRook✭✭✭✭Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Amazing that it's okay for Sorc to do such a thing, but God forbid a Nightblade does it
Since when do Sorcs change their skills/playstyle to counter wings? Magsorcs use force pulse anyway because they have no class spammable and they use crit surge anyway for major sorcery and the heal.
If you'd like to see sorcs being instructed to change their build and playstyle to counter a single class skill, just hang around for a couple of days for the next "nerf cloak" thread.
I'm sure it's coming any time now.3 -
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"Crit Surge" and "Major Sorcery" used in the same sentence?Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Amazing that it's okay for Sorc to do such a thing, but God forbid a Nightblade does it
Since when do Sorcs change their skills/playstyle to counter wings? Magsorcs use force pulse anyway because they have no class spammable and they use crit surge anyway for major sorcery and the heal.
Jesus
Anyways, no. Most Sorcs prefer to use Reach + Master Staff, and their heals are still mostly resto staff.
well m8 there's a reason you see many magsorcs using force pulse but you never see any magblades use force pulse, i'll end this here.0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Trancestor wrote: »
"Crit Surge" and "Major Sorcery" used in the same sentence?Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Amazing that it's okay for Sorc to do such a thing, but God forbid a Nightblade does it
Since when do Sorcs change their skills/playstyle to counter wings? Magsorcs use force pulse anyway because they have no class spammable and they use crit surge anyway for major sorcery and the heal.
Jesus
Anyways, no. Most Sorcs prefer to use Reach + Master Staff, and their heals are still mostly resto staff.
well m8 there's a reason you see many magsorcs using force pulse but you never see any magblades use force pulse, i'll end this here.
The reason is that Nightblades are fairly pretentious and feel they deserve they never have to downgrade their build to counter something (because they should always be able to counter everything, hence all nerf threads)Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Well, let's be honest here. The same can be said about cloak. It also forces people to slot very lackluster skills, fairly useless ground AoEs or a detect pot. So yeah, "Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class" is fairly logical.
Plus, nightblade always has an opportunity to walk out of a fight with a DK. They can't chase you. Just leave to fight another day. People should really learn that there are some fights not worth picking.6 -
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✭✭Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Well, let's be honest here. The same can be said about cloak. It also forces people to slot very lackluster skills, fairly useless ground AoEs or a detect pot. So yeah, "Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class" is fairly logical.
Plus, nightblade always has an opportunity to walk out of a fight with a DK. They can't chase you. Just leave to fight another day. People should really learn that there are some fights not worth picking.
Easier to say but harder to do!
ESO forum have lot of 1000 CP players with best sets, most skills unlocked so does not matter for them!
But its DK need some treatment! Magicka Sorc nerf to ground, MNB healing becomes worst, this should be fair!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Well, let's be honest here. The same can be said about cloak. It also forces people to slot very lackluster skills, fairly useless ground AoEs or a detect pot. So yeah, "Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class" is fairly logical.
Plus, nightblade always has an opportunity to walk out of a fight with a DK. They can't chase you. Just leave to fight another day. People should really learn that there are some fights not worth picking.
Easier to say but harder to do!
ESO forum have lot of 1000 CP players with best sets, most skills unlocked so does not matter for them!
But its DK need some treatment! Magicka Sorc nerf to ground, MNB healing becomes worst, this should be fair!
Ah, so instead of being constructive you are here for petty revenge because "we got nerfed so they should be nerfed as well"?
I probably shouldn't but if we were to go that low... Don't worry, DKs got their fair share of nerfs in 2014-2016. Those nerfs to sorcs and NBs just made us even.3 -
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✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Well, let's be honest here. The same can be said about cloak. It also forces people to slot very lackluster skills, fairly useless ground AoEs or a detect pot. So yeah, "Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class" is fairly logical.
Plus, nightblade always has an opportunity to walk out of a fight with a DK. They can't chase you. Just leave to fight another day. People should really learn that there are some fights not worth picking.
Easier to say but harder to do!
ESO forum have lot of 1000 CP players with best sets, most skills unlocked so does not matter for them!
But its DK need some treatment! Magicka Sorc nerf to ground, MNB healing becomes worst, this should be fair!
Ah, so instead of being constructive you are here for petty revenge because "we got nerfed so they should be nerfed as well"?
I probably shouldn't but if we were to go that low... Don't worry, DKs got their fair share of nerfs in 2014-2016. Those nerfs to sorcs and NBs just made us even.
If you really want to go that low, Sorc has been getting nerfed since at least 1.2 so they've been more nerfed than DKs. DKs just like to push the narrative that they're worse off so people feel sorry for themValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Well, let's be honest here. The same can be said about cloak. It also forces people to slot very lackluster skills, fairly useless ground AoEs or a detect pot. So yeah, "Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class" is fairly logical.
Plus, nightblade always has an opportunity to walk out of a fight with a DK. They can't chase you. Just leave to fight another day. People should really learn that there are some fights not worth picking.
Easier to say but harder to do!
ESO forum have lot of 1000 CP players with best sets, most skills unlocked so does not matter for them!
But its DK need some treatment! Magicka Sorc nerf to ground, MNB healing becomes worst, this should be fair!
Ah, so instead of being constructive you are here for petty revenge because "we got nerfed so they should be nerfed as well"?
I probably shouldn't but if we were to go that low... Don't worry, DKs got their fair share of nerfs in 2014-2016. Those nerfs to sorcs and NBs just made us even.
If you really want to go that low, Sorc has been getting nerfed since at least 1.2 so they've been more nerfed than DKs. DKs just like to push the narrative that they're worse off so people feel sorry for them
Dammit, told myslef it was a bad idea to go that low... Now we are just going to throw around "who got nerfed more" argument? I think magwardens have us all beaten there.2 -
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✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
Well, let's be honest here. The same can be said about cloak. It also forces people to slot very lackluster skills, fairly useless ground AoEs or a detect pot. So yeah, "Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class" is fairly logical.
Plus, nightblade always has an opportunity to walk out of a fight with a DK. They can't chase you. Just leave to fight another day. People should really learn that there are some fights not worth picking.
Easier to say but harder to do!
ESO forum have lot of 1000 CP players with best sets, most skills unlocked so does not matter for them!
But its DK need some treatment! Magicka Sorc nerf to ground, MNB healing becomes worst, this should be fair!
Ah, so instead of being constructive you are here for petty revenge because "we got nerfed so they should be nerfed as well"?
I probably shouldn't but if we were to go that low... Don't worry, DKs got their fair share of nerfs in 2014-2016. Those nerfs to sorcs and NBs just made us even.
If you really want to go that low, Sorc has been getting nerfed since at least 1.2 so they've been more nerfed than DKs. DKs just like to push the narrative that they're worse off so people feel sorry for them
Dammit, told myslef it was a bad idea to go that low... Now we are just going to throw around "who got nerfed more" argument? I think magwardens have us all beaten there.
Mag Wardens still aren't even close in terms of sheer volume and severity of nerfs. They just kind of started out bad.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Trancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Sorry you feel that way dude. But you're being willfully ignorant lolTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »
Why not? Magicka Sorcs do and we don't have any heals eitherTrancestor wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »As a maglbade it definitely is OP, none of your skills can actually hit, and people say "it costs a lot just drain their magicka" well that doesn't stop good magdk's from being able to spam it the whole fight, as other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it so it's much less of an issue, it's a gg for magblades tho, oh well, shittiest class now anyway.
"As other magicka classes you got skills that ignore it"
Bro that's mainly Force Pulse, which everyone has access to...
lol yeah so magblades are supposed to use force pulse instead of Swallow Soul which is their only heal?
Really dude...
You got crit surge and blood magic passive which is plenty enough, magblades have nothing without swallow soul.
Crit Surge: Nope, not even gonna bother addressing this...but I am gonna say it's hard to crit when you don't stack crit
Blood Magic: That passive that activates once every...oh, 5 seconds or so? Since Frags is our only useful ability that activates it?
Give me a freaking break, man
I'm not the one needing to give a freaking break man, what you are suggesting is suicide for magblade, really really dumb suggestion.
I don't disagree Magblade needs help (see Vigor thread) but they can most definitely use Force Pulse to counter DKs
In duels maybe if you use Refreshing path with it, in open world no magblade is going to slot forcepulse instead of strife.
Who says you need a class heal?
You can also use things like Healing Ward, Rapid Regen, Blessing of Restoratio , Resto Ult, etc plus Harness Magicka/Dampen Magic. Essentially shield + any number of resto abilities
Would it be nice to have a class heal? Yes, absolutely. But you're not getting one and neither are Sorcs because that's just the way things are...so you may as well work with what you've got
Changing your playstyle, skill bars and performing worse just because of one skill of one class isn't very logical is it?...
As i said the fix for this is simple, make Strife go through wings, and if that doesn't happen well i don't care i don't play magblade.
They can do that when reflected objects can't be ignored with cloaking and DoT damage still tick under cloak. Until then, nope.3 -
So nightblades are top tier in pvp and still demand to nerf dk?
You should know that dk have been nerf several times before, stop crying because magdk follow the meta and you can’t kill them easily like you used to be.2 -
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✭✭✭JasonWangTaiwan wrote: »So nightblades are top tier in pvp and still demand to nerf dk?
You should know that dk have been nerf several times before, stop crying because magdk follow the meta and you can’t kill them easily like you used to be.
Magblade are pretty close to Sorc (e.g., the worst).
Stamblades are the top tier in PvPValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
BigBadVolk✭✭✭✭✭JasonWangTaiwan wrote: »So nightblades are top tier in pvp and still demand to nerf dk?
You should know that dk have been nerf several times before, stop crying because magdk follow the meta and you can’t kill them easily like you used to be.
Magblade are pretty close to Sorc (e.g., the worst).
Stamblades are the top tier in PvP
yep, and they only have problem with DK if they slot bow"The ass is similar to the opinion: Everyone has it, but no one cares about the others!"
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✭✭✭BigBadVolk wrote: »JasonWangTaiwan wrote: »So nightblades are top tier in pvp and still demand to nerf dk?
You should know that dk have been nerf several times before, stop crying because magdk follow the meta and you can’t kill them easily like you used to be.
Magblade are pretty close to Sorc (e.g., the worst).
Stamblades are the top tier in PvP
yep, and they only have problem with DK if they slot bow
And funnelValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Back in time stam dk just like today’s stam nb, but now it’s been reverted.
If stam nb suffer the same fate as stam dk which I think it would never going to happen,
maybe mag nb would be viable again.0 -
Noctus✭✭✭✭✭so what im getting out this discussion is when for example on the magblade side of things funnel health and or crippling grasp becomes a beam or smthing like that it is fixed no need to nerf1
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SixVoltCar✭✭✭I know the real problem-- nerf mount speed increases, 24 hours isn't a long enough cooldown.0
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✭Funny how some players do not see how it is a problem that one skill can shut down over 90% of all range attacks. The only counter play this skill has is not to use range attacks.
Wings against range players:- reflects basic light attacks(destro staff/bow/ resto) - that alone ~20% damage reduction if the main weapon is reflectable
- reflects all range dots - ~ another 20% damage reduction (mag nb, mag templer, master staff sorc, mag warden, any stam build with a bow for poison inc)
- reflects a lot of range ccs- reach, javelin, draining shot,
- reflects 80% of all spam-able skills - hidden blade, snipe, reach, funnel
There is only one situation where wings seem not so good and that is when you got highly outnumbered since so many players will bring the wings quite fast to the max number of reflects.
- Update 23Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus3
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