Most good NBs use shade as soon as someone comes near with Magelight. Pretty easy to avoid being magelit, as you can see them coming.

susmitds wrote: »

Most good NBs use shade as soon as someone comes near with Magelight. Pretty easy to avoid being magelit, as you can see them coming.

especially after the NBs got a huge nice visual on other player if the detection is on or not.

Creationofgod wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Most good NBs use shade as soon as someone comes near with Magelight. Pretty easy to avoid being magelit, as you can see them coming.

so how do you even combat that ? those lethal arrow spin 2 win vanish builds?

if i cant unveil them ?

I used to play that exact build one or two months ago and it's main weakness is how squishy it is. These builds have pretty low sustain as well and the only real defense is Cloak+Shade, which has very limited casts before magicka runs out and can't be refilled as you need Major Brutality pots, leaving you with zero magicka sustain. These builds work by maintaining high mobility and situational awareness to avoid enemies, while looking for unaware enemies.
Best counter is to let them get the first strike and somehow turtle up and survive around 8 secs, which should be enough to leave them without stamina and shade, then immediately pop a detect potion and go all out on offense.

Creationofgod wrote: »

i also cant runaway with my magplar ... so i am doomded against those players?

Afaik if those players focus on snipe range attacks, rather try pushing and reducing distance, use either Focused Charge (mag) or Silver Leash from Fighters Guild (stam) to even the odds in close combat, for a chance they will deplete resources in panic giving you opportunity to use spammable or ultimate.

I had similar situation once (on stamden), a guy came out of stealth used snipe & scatter shot, I managed to survive with warden's shield, he immediately entered stealth and tried to run away. Me and an ally followed him in his supposed direction and found him out of stealth around the corner (probably regenerating stamina) - most probably was surprised beacause died quickly. Or maybe it wasn't a "good NB" .

Edit: I'd rather choose Radiant Magelight than Inner Light. On the expense of 5% more magicka you get: "Reduced cost and increased the radius of the reveal. You also prevent the stun and reduce the damage from stealth attacks while slotted, for you and nearby allies.."

Gargath wrote: »

Creationofgod wrote: »

i also cant runaway with my magplar ... so i am doomded against those players?

Afaik if those players focus on snipe range attacks, rather try pushing and reducing distance, use either Focused Charge (mag) or Silver Leash from Fighters Guild (stam) to even the odds in close combat, for a chance they will deplete resources in panic giving you opportunity to use spammable or ultimate.

I had similar situation once (on stamden), a guy came out of stealth used snipe & scatter shot, I managed to survive with warden's shield, he immediately entered stealth and tried to run away. Me and an ally followed him in his supposed direction and found him out of stealth around the corner (probably regenerating stamina) - most probably was surprised beacause died quickly. Or maybe it wasn't a "good NB" .

Edit: I'd rather choose Radiant Magelight than Inner Light. On the expense of 5% more magicka you get: "Reduced cost and increased the radius of the reveal. You also prevent the stun and reduce the damage from stealth attacks while slotted, for you and nearby allies.."

amazing advice !!

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Battleground is disaster right now, if you are running random group you may mostly land as loser !

Then even more satisfaction when your random PUG wins !



It's not that bad as it looks, definitely not a disaster.

Plz nerf magelight/inner light!

Get a Grothdarr helmet and make it proc - Magelight's range is about that big. Once you get the Revealing Flare from Support line, their cloak strat will get difficult. But before that, you can use some AoEs that are centered on yourself. Spin2win, Templar Solar Barrage, Impulse, Catlops, DKs breath, Sorc's mines, etc.

Gargath wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Battleground is disaster right now, if you are running random group you may mostly land as loser !

Then even more satisfaction when your random PUG wins !



It's not that bad as it looks, definitely not a disaster.

If you are lucky enough to get Healer and Good players (800 CP+) in your group but mostly its a disaster, atleast in PC EU post murkmire!

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

If you are lucky enough to get Healer and Good players (800 CP+) in your group but mostly its a disaster, atleast in PC EU post murkmire!

Does the CP matter so much? I'm still a scrub in Battlegrounds, made just a few deathmatches but I was told that the right skills, sets and operational knowledge about teamplay, can make you a winner, not the amount of CPs earned (in no-CP environment). I only play in PC EU by the way and the above screenshot was picked yesterday.

Creationofgod wrote: »

MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

Creationofgod wrote: »

MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

Plz nerf magelight/inner light!

troll

Lighten up buddy, win some lose some. Most classes have strong and weak points, exploit them in more than one way.

im not saying anybody should get nerfed , buy your right maybe a little harsh there with the response!

im just trying to learn what my slow moving magplar could do about that kinda build !

TL DR
Know your enemy, know your build and do whatever you have to do to win.

Mage light work only in melee range as a Nightblade I can tell you their is no one sure fire way to counter stealth. But if you are burning magic that’s on you. If I see a mage light I shade out of there it works and gets me a good 85% of the time (but I vanish with shades). I watch from cover and see how you react if you buff up it’s going to be a good fight but if you spam caltrops, shards, liquid lightning, WoE Steel tornado or mage light then you are fighting someone that’s not there while letting them recharge for the next attack.

Always buff up it get HoTs going, shields up if magic, Major and minor armor buffs and 7/10 the ganker will just break off. Ganking on any class is mostly about getting free kills on the careless not a fight. I love pulling players to a 1v1 in PvP zergs are just boring. If you face a player like me I kill you before you know I’m or we go head to head I win some and I lose some just the way it is.

Always, always, always!! Know where you are. If they are just disappear and I’m not on my Nightblade so I can’t mark (not that anyone uses mark after the update) I move to NPCs who will agro the enemy and/or move to the open get away from trees, rocks and hills if they can drop a shade and jump back you are not far enough.