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Will medium ever be any good difference between heavy and medium is ridiculous
Jake1576
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I normally run a medium armor nb with only 10k resistance with 20k health and i have everything in damage so i hit the best i can i normally get 2 shotted while i'm on my medium armor nb so i wanted to try something out i got on my level 23 dk wearing all heavy with 35k resistance and 30k health went into pvp stood in front of the other alliances keeps waiting for a fight i got a 780 nb that came and jumped me and i beat him he hit very hard yet i was able to stay alive and outlast his dps and oh and on top of it all all i was doing was just spamming one attack i feel so dirty wearing heavy like i'm almost cheating or something medium armor needs some major changes to it and heavy needs a nerf
Edited by Jake1576 on November 1, 2018 4:45PM 3
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Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭But medium armor has roll dodge.....oh wait they nerfed that.
Medium armor has evasion....oops they nerfed that too.
Medium armor allows fast movement to evade attacks....uggggh they even nerfed that.
Well at least medium armor looks really cool, you still have that going for you.
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Need to find a way to increase your resistances, I wear 2 piece Chudan on my Stamplar for example.
This gives me physical and spell resistance in the 25K range.
He is 5 Medium/2 heavy. CP and impen trait give him 2400 crit resistance.
Edited by TequilaFire on November 1, 2018 4:56PM4 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Medium armor in Cyrodiil is still plenty good for certain builds and certain combat situations. You can't take a single fight and expect everything that happened there to transfer to every other combat scenario.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Kanar✭✭✭✭✭
✭At some point we just have to accept small imbalances and move on to better things. I feel that PvP is harder to balance and therefore we should be more accepting of small imbalances in that arena.
In other words, just use heavy armor if it's better.1 -
Shantu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Medium armor is fine. It just requires a different play style than heavy armor. You just have to pick your battles and utilize skills rather than jumping in head first and expecting your armor to bail you out. My medium armor StamBlade can be a real pest in group sieges.
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
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Adapting and using FOTM is how you win at games, crying about how "your thing" isn't good just makes you frustrated and enjoy the game less. Took me some years to learn that.At some point we just have to accept small imbalances and move on to better things. I feel that PvP is harder to balance and therefore we should be more accepting of small imbalances in that arena.
In other words, just use heavy armor if it's better.
That said, it's not an excuse for not trying to find balance. Imbalances in some areas are fine as long as there are pay offs elsewhere.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."1 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭But medium armor has roll dodge.....oh wait they nerfed that.
Medium armor has evasion....oops they nerfed that too.
Medium armor allows fast movement to evade attacks....uggggh they even nerfed that.
Well at least medium armor looks really cool, you still have that going for you.
Dodgeroll is still very strong, its vigor what makes it completely OP
Think about Magicka, most of classes have no burst heal and light armor is pathetic currently!Edited by Lord_Eomer on November 1, 2018 5:46PM2 -
Danksta✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭My resistances are about the same as yours in medium armor.
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Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Medium wearers crying It could always be as bad as the difference between heavy and light on mag users. At least you really have the option of heavy... 2 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I normally run a medium armor nb with only 10k resistance with 20k health and i have everything in damage so i hit the best i can i normally get 2 shotted while i'm on my medium armor nb so i wanted to try something out i got on my level 23 dk wearing all heavy with 35k resistance and 30k health went into pvp stood in front of the other alliances keeps waiting for a fight i got a 780 nb that came and jumped me and i beat him he hit very hard yet i was able to stay alive and outlast his dps and oh and on top of it all all i was doing was just spamming one attack i feel so dirty wearing heavy like i'm almost cheating or something medium armor needs some major changes to it and heavy needs a nerf
Dude... You need to use your periods and commas... So hard to read all that without a single instance if punctuation! O.o
As for the question, I don't PvP but for PvE medium is just fine.1 -
kylewwefan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I normally run a medium armor nb. with only 10k resistance and 20k health.
i have everything in damage so i hit the best.
i can i normally get 2 shotted while i'm on my medium armor nb so i wanted to try something out.
i got on my level 23 dk wearing all heavy with 35k resistance and 30k health went into pvp stood in front of the other alliances keeps waiting for a fight.
i got a 780 nb that came and jumped me and i beat him. he hit very hard yet i was able to stay alive and outlast his dps.
and oh and on top of it all all i was doing was just spamming one attack.
i feel so dirty wearing heavy like i'm almost cheating or something.
medium armor needs some major changes to it and heavy needs a nerf
And also nerf sorcs. That is all
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Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭Not trying to make any excuses but When you are using a ps4 to post here on the forums it's difficult to be able to do the things that are needed to make it look right such as spacing it out perfectly and punctuation you try to use a ps4 web browser to post here and you will see what i mean the forums are not compatible for the ps4 web browserEdited by Jake1576 on November 1, 2018 6:43PM0
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✭✭I hated medium armor for years (was always a heavy stam player) but am starting to main it since Murkmire landed and find it much better for fighting outnumbered.
Medium + bow backbar (with shuffle of course) provides some of the best mobility in this new low-mobility meta, with good burst to boot. It's a fair tradeoff for the tankier, higher-pressure but slower heavy + quickcloak setup.
That said, shuffle could still use a slight boost to the immunity duration—it's still a bit too expensive for what it does. Slight tweaks would be sufficient imo, it's really not that far behind heavy anymore.PC/NA — Daggerfall Covenant — BGs, Kaalgrontiid
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Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭kylewwefan wrote: »I normally run a medium armor nb. with only 10k resistance and 20k health.
i have everything in damage so i hit the best.
i can i normally get 2 shotted while i'm on my medium armor nb so i wanted to try something out.
i got on my level 23 dk wearing all heavy with 35k resistance and 30k health went into pvp stood in front of the other alliances keeps waiting for a fight.
i got a 780 nb that came and jumped me and i beat him. he hit very hard yet i was able to stay alive and outlast his dps.
and oh and on top of it all all i was doing was just spamming one attack.
i feel so dirty wearing heavy like i'm almost cheating or something.
medium armor needs some major changes to it and heavy needs a nerf
And also nerf sorcs. That is all
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vyrzeden✭✭✭But medium armor has roll dodge.....oh wait they nerfed that.
Medium armor has evasion....oops they nerfed that too.
Medium armor allows fast movement to evade attacks....uggggh they even nerfed that.
Well at least medium armor looks really cool, you still have that going for you.
This is absolutely incorrect!
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You can use the outfit system to make your heavy armor look like medium, so they don't even have that
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NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭When you are using a ps4 to post here on the forums it's difficult to be able to do the things that are needed to make it look right such as spacing it out perfectly and punctuation you try to use a ps4 web browser to post here and you will see what i mean the forums are not compatible for the ps4 web browser
All it takes is effort, and you must be lazy. Commas and periods exist on the controller keyboard on PS4, right next to the letters you use to make these posts. Choosing that cumbersome method to communicate is on you - there are much better options available.
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✭✭✭SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »this post needs some punctuation.
I don't bother reading garbage English anymore. If a native speaker can't be bothered to write correctly, then I won't be bothered trying to decode the gibberish.1 -
Swomp23✭✭✭✭I normally run a medium armor nb with only 10k resistance with 20k health and i have everything in damage so i hit the best i can i normally get 2 shotted while i'm on my medium armor nb so i wanted to try something out i got on my level 23 dk wearing all heavy with 35k resistance and 30k health went into pvp stood in front of the other alliances keeps waiting for a fight i got a 780 nb that came and jumped me and i beat him he hit very hard yet i was able to stay alive and outlast his dps and oh and on top of it all all i was doing was just spamming one attack i feel so dirty wearing heavy like i'm almost cheating or something medium armor needs some major changes to it and heavy needs a nerf
Ever heard of punctuation? It's your grammar that needs major changes. Reading this gave me a headache.
For the sake of the argument, I don't agree. Yes, currently in pvp heavy armor is generally considered overall better. But if you chose medium armor, you chose it to have more offense. You also have other defensive methods, like cloak and roll dodge. If you want more survivability, you have to give up on damage.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.Edited by Swomp23 on November 1, 2018 8:32PMXBox One - NA0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭But medium armor has roll dodge.....oh wait they nerfed that.
Medium armor has evasion....oops they nerfed that too.
Medium armor allows fast movement to evade attacks....uggggh they even nerfed that.
Well at least medium armor looks really cool, you still have that going for you.
Dodge Roll is fine. Evasion's passive dodge effect was always stupid.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This run-on sentence gave me legitimate anxiety.Edited by MasterSpatula on November 3, 2018 4:27AM"A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »This run-on sentence have me legitimate anxiety.
It done you a worry?1 -
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✭✭✭✭In PVE its perfectly fine.
Trust me, its also fine in PvP. The recent nerfs to mobility made heavy versus medium a choice between tankyness and mobility. And so far mobility seems to be the superior choice. In fact I actually prefer medium armor because the passives are superior to heavy for the purpose my build accomplishes.Edited by Ragnarock41 on November 1, 2018 8:36PM0 -
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✭✭✭probably not, zos seems to like that heavy armor is the only viable type
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ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Not trying to make any excuses but When you are using a ps4 to post here on the forums it's difficult to be able to do the things that are needed to make it look right such as spacing it out perfectly and punctuation you try to use a ps4 web browser to post here and you will see what i mean the forums are not compatible for the ps4 web browser
I can understand that, but do you have a phone? I'm going to reasonably assume you have a phone. You can use the forums the, like I do. Still not the best, but probably faster to type and easier for you to do things correctly, since you do seem to be aware of how, ermm... off-putting it is. Just an idea. 1 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭probably not, zos seems to like that heavy armor is the only viable type
everything else is a glass cannon and must die instantly
Let's face it though... That's how it should be. Out do you think leather protects a lot more than clothes IRL? You wear clothes, you should be easy to kill. Unless you tell me you believe Ironhide is made of iron, then I'll give you a pass. Heh0 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭Well it seems this post got taken over by trolls but that still doesn't change the fact heavy is way to strong vs medium medium needs some changes done to it it sucks compaired to heavy
Edited by Jake1576 on November 2, 2018 9:14AM1
