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Nerf Maelstrom bow

  • XxCaLxX
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    jcm2606 wrote: »
    You're going after the vMA bow? A weapon that, let me remind you, requires good execution of your rotation in order to perform optimally? When Relequen can add the same DPS with just light attack spamming? What?

    Yeah but relequen is easier to get. If someome can’t complete vMA to get desired weapon then they believe everyone else should suffer because of it.

  • Strider__Roshin
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    Agreed, nerf it and make stamina naturally powerful rather than being reliant on gimmicks.
  • regime211
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    kessik221 wrote: »
    This item is for over performing and makes or breaks stamina classes. It's overwhelming power in PvE needs reduced significantly. No other single item makes a significant difference (upwards of 5k-10k dps difference) for stamina like the Maelstrom bow.

    JUDGE:Now Jimmy can you use that in a sentence?

    Jimmy: N.E.R.F, when someone jumps to the forums and ask for a nerf, instead of stating they have a L2P issue.

    JUDGE: That is correct!
    Edited by regime211 on October 31, 2018 12:36AM
  • Valrien
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    Daus wrote: »
    Agreed, nerf it and make stamina naturally powerful rather than being reliant on gimmicks.

    Stamina is naturally powerful, Daus.

    Please stop acting like stamina is bullied by the big bad magicka players
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  • Mr_Walker
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    Zelos wrote: »
    vMA is brain dead easy now with cp. To prove that I could light attack my way through it with no skills on my bars

    Do it and post the vid and I'll donate $100 to your charity of choice.

    Edited by Mr_Walker on October 31, 2018 1:14AM
  • LadyLethalla
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    Nerf Maelstrom 1h drops. PLEASE.

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  • John_Falstaff
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    @LadyLethalla , that misses sarcasm tag somewhere. ^^ Cruel Flurry set was nerfed three times, I think.
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Zelos wrote: »
    vMA is brain dead easy now with cp. To prove that I could light attack my way through it with no skills on my bars

    Post a video please.

    I'm working through it on my first time ever and it's definitely NOT easy
    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Zelos wrote: »
    vMA is brain dead easy now with cp. To prove that I could light attack my way through it with no skills on my bars

    Do it and post the vid and I'll donate $100 to your charity of choice.

    @Mr_Walker You should contant that video creator and ask where to donate 100$

    https://youtu.be/NraXZtHn6NE
    Edited by Juhasow on October 31, 2018 4:29AM
  • LadyLethalla
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    @LadyLethalla , that misses sarcasm tag somewhere. ^^ Cruel Flurry set was nerfed three times, I think.

    I meant the weapon drop rate, not the set effect.
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  • D0PAMINE
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    Nerf white no trait non set piece bows please theyre too hard to get
  • John_Falstaff
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    @LadyLethalla , oh, that. ^^ Bad luck all over. I got my bow only when I got every single other set from there, and judging by forum reports, I can consider myself relatively lucky. ^^ Random number generator should be reworked throughout the game to remove outliers.
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    kessik221 wrote: »
    To anyone bringing up the relequins set, i would point out not only is this an item SET not a single item, it can be farmed on normal mode in a few days.

    You can also farm VMA for the bow quite easily......

  • LadyLethalla
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    @LadyLethalla , oh, that. ^^ Bad luck all over. I got my bow only when I got every single other set from there, and judging by forum reports, I can consider myself relatively lucky. ^^ Random number generator should be reworked throughout the game to remove outliers.

    Definitely. I have one bow but I would really like two. Preferably three.
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  • Eso101rus
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    I can’t understand why anyone would want vma bow nerfed? It’s a nice buff to most stamina dps rotation, it doesn’t come into play as a broken tool in pvp, and seems a fitting reward for completing vma. The only reason I can see someone requesting a nerf would be because they can’t get it. Vma bow is one thing that isn’t broken in this game, please leave it alone.
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    Agreed, nerf it and make stamina naturally powerful rather than being reliant on gimmicks.

    Stamina is naturally powerful, Daus.

    Please stop acting like stamina is bullied by the big bad magicka players

    Didn't even mention magicka players. Refrain from putting words in my mouth in the future.
    Edited by Strider__Roshin on October 31, 2018 9:59AM
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    OP are you the one to talk to about bait FOR master angler?
  • Azurya
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    kessik221 wrote: »
    This item is for over performing and makes or breaks stamina classes. It's overwhelming power in PvE needs reduced significantly. No other single item makes a significant difference (upwards of 5k-10k dps difference) for stamina like the Maelstrom bow.

    you have a bit weird sight in your head????
    we don´t see any stamina in a topraiding guild, and now
    you dare to ask for a nerf for a stamina item(!!!!), btw the only one which is not bugged for stamina users from VMA

    crank
    Edited by Azurya on October 31, 2018 10:51AM
  • Valrien
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    Daus wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    Agreed, nerf it and make stamina naturally powerful rather than being reliant on gimmicks.

    Stamina is naturally powerful, Daus.

    Please stop acting like stamina is bullied by the big bad magicka players

    Didn't even mention magicka players. Refrain from putting words in my mouth in the future.

    I don't really need to. That's just part of your narrative
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  • Jimmy
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    kessik221 wrote: »
    This item is for over performing and makes or breaks stamina classes. It's overwhelming power in PvE needs reduced significantly. No other single item makes a significant difference (upwards of 5k-10k dps difference) for stamina like the Maelstrom bow.

    Your exaggerations are gross.
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  • Kikke
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    Azurya wrote: »
    kessik221 wrote: »
    This item is for over performing and makes or breaks stamina classes. It's overwhelming power in PvE needs reduced significantly. No other single item makes a significant difference (upwards of 5k-10k dps difference) for stamina like the Maelstrom bow.

    you have a bit weird sight in your head????
    we don´t see any stamina in a topraiding guild, and now
    you dare to ask for a nerf for a stamina item(!!!!), btw the only one which is not bugged for stamina users from VMA

    crank

    Wierd how stam has been the highest dps since morrowind then.
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    RANKK7 wrote: »
    Sure, let's nerf the only weapons left in game that truly must be earned with your own skills alone, no carries involved.

    You can buy carries in whatever 4-men arena or trial you want, getting weapons (the majority of them being way better than the vma ones).

    It says a lot about how this game is managed.

    Vma weapons should get a huge buff, not a nerf. Too many already of them are utterly useless and the ones still used aren't that shiny anymore.

    What do you mean no carries? You just let a friend use your account. Voila.
    Edited by Jurand80 on October 31, 2018 1:20PM
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Zelos wrote: »
    vMA is brain dead easy now with cp. To prove that I could light attack my way through it with no skills on my bars

    Post a video please.

    I'm working through it on my first time ever and it's definitely NOT easy
    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Zelos wrote: »
    vMA is brain dead easy now with cp. To prove that I could light attack my way through it with no skills on my bars

    Do it and post the vid and I'll donate $100 to your charity of choice.

    @Mr_Walker You should contant that video creator and ask where to donate 100$

    https://youtu.be/NraXZtHn6NE


    How does this little gem escape being on the top of every Maelstrom guide ever? Ok, you showed some skill, but the simplicity of this guys build...not a skill on the bar...almost flawless, and a 400k+ score

    WTF

    This guy is phenomenal!

    You’re not ping ponging around like Yoda. Pulling Monster DPS. Just casually calm cool collected light attacking your way through Maelstrom Arena.

    Dude I lied. I watched this video like 3 times.

    Totally rethinking wth I’m doing when I go in there. And every other noob Maelstrom Question.

    Freaking blew my mind! That was really something spectacular to watch. Thank you for sharing!
  • rabidmyers
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    lol
    at a place nobody knows
  • Bosov
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    It is already nerfed since it used to give weapon damage too... they should buff it by adding that back like the new weapons.

    If you cant complete vma you dont need the bow anyway...
    Edited by Bosov on October 31, 2018 7:09PM
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  • templesus
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    Agreed, nerf it and make stamina naturally powerful rather than being reliant on gimmicks.

    Stamina is naturally powerful, Daus.

    Please stop acting like stamina is bullied by the big bad magicka players

    Is that why you see 8 stamina DPS in vCR and vAS? Oh wait...
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    Bosov wrote: »
    It is already nerfed since it used to give weapon damage too... they should buff it by adding that back like the new weapons.

    If you cant complete vma you dont need the bow anyway...
    You can clear every vet content without it.
  • Valrien
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    templesus wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    Agreed, nerf it and make stamina naturally powerful rather than being reliant on gimmicks.

    Stamina is naturally powerful, Daus.

    Please stop acting like stamina is bullied by the big bad magicka players

    Is that why you see 8 stamina DPS in vCR and vAS? Oh wait...

    That's a survival issue. Not a strength issue.

    Look at any other raid where survivability isn't a concern, like vMoL.
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  • Bladerunner1
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    Here we go one more time:

    If stamina and magicka DPS are balanced, That's IF,

    Given these conditions:

    1) Relequen beats out Siroria for raw DPS output of a single target

    2) Maelstrom Bow beats out Maelstrom staff for raw DPS output

    3) Crafted potions. Stamina relies HEAVILY on crafted potions whereas magicka gains less DPS from equivalent crafted potions.

    Short explanation for point#3
    Stamina has a smaller stamina pool and relies more on Stam pots for resource maintenance, and major Brutality for all the weapon damage they stack, and major Savagry since other skills beat out Expert Hunter.

    Magicka has more incentive to stack magicka due to all the magic multipliers. Major Sorcery offers less DPS for a mage stacking the primary resource. They already have free major prophecy from inner light in most meta builds. And they have access to a single target DOT/heal that provides major Sorcery.

    ..are stamina and magicka still balanced without the above three factors as part of the equation?
    Edited by Bladerunner1 on October 31, 2018 9:08PM
  • FinneganFroth
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    RANKK7 wrote: »
    Sure, let's nerf the only weapons left in game that truly must be earned with your own skills alone, no carries involved.

    You can buy carries in whatever 4-men arena or trial you want, getting weapons (the majority of them being way better than the vma ones).

    Not entirely true. I knew of someone that payed another person to log onto their account and get flawless conqueror for them. They were promptly kicked out of the guild for being a pos.
  • Valrien
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    RANKK7 wrote: »
    Sure, let's nerf the only weapons left in game that truly must be earned with your own skills alone, no carries involved.

    You can buy carries in whatever 4-men arena or trial you want, getting weapons (the majority of them being way better than the vma ones).

    Not entirely true. I knew of someone that payed another person to log onto their account and get flawless conqueror for them. They were promptly kicked out of the guild for being a pos.

    Seems a bit harsh unless it was a PvE guild
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