Sorc shield

TheValar85 · October 2018

Lakashi wrote: »

Yeah, I'm at the point I am no longer finding the game fun. This is the worst patch I have ever seen them put out (granted I have only played for 1.5 years). And they clearly don't care what the players who play the game and pay them think. Did ZOS and Lucasfilm merge or something?

oh god if thats gonna happen it will be better for the devs to quicly work on the offline mode update.

jcm2606 · October 2018

winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »

This is why ZoS will never get another penny from me.

Stop *** up your PvE game due to PvP complaints!

** This was all about PvP, no matter what the idiots devs said.**

So, shield nerfs were due to PVP, even though any good player could punch through shields by keeping pressure up on their opponent? Even after Zenimax (very wrongly) said that they believe shields are responsible for healers being left out in group content?

Look. I'm with you guys. I'm not even a magicka player, and I'm with you. These shield nerfs are *** ***, hell this entire patch is *** ***, and it should all be reverted and taken back to the drawing boards. But don't pin the blame on PVP.

Zenimax's ineptitude and refusal to listen to people who actually play the damn game is what caused this mess. Not PVP.

Lord_Etrigan · October 2018

Soleya wrote: »

So if pets can't die in dungeons/trials...which content are they dying in constantly? Overland? Cause that's the only other content I can think of, and if your pet is dying there then you may want to look at your build.

Your pets may not die, but you sure as hell will with the current state of shields.

TheValar85 · October 2018

jcm2606 wrote: »

winterbornb14_ESO wrote: »

This is why ZoS will never get another penny from me.

Stop *** up your PvE game due to PvP complaints!

** This was all about PvP, no matter what the idiots devs said.**

So, shield nerfs were due to PVP, even though any good player could punch through shields by keeping pressure up on their opponent? Even after Zenimax (very wrongly) said that they believe shields are responsible for healers being left out in group content?

Look. I'm with you guys. I'm not even a magicka player, and I'm with you. These shield nerfs are *** ***, hell this entire patch is *** ***, and it should all be reverted and taken back to the drawing boards. But don't pin the blame on PVP.

Zenimax's ineptitude and refusal to listen to people who actually play the damn game is what caused this mess. Not PVP.

Yeah.

Not to mention about vMA survival for new and for old palyers. And pet build is out now too. Also overload bar is out too.

About vMA well not every sorc is into pet builds thats true, but now new and old pro palyers will struggle more in there too.

A firend of mine who plays sorc sience beta with cp 1900+ quited the game becasue of this nerf. yes he give it a try to see how much the nerf will effect hes plays. He knew every mechanics he never skipped any of it just beacouse of shield ussage. But now basicly he ended up death 70 times. And i am talking about a True Veteran player. Now imaganie what will happen with new commers too?

Vahrokh · October 2018

Soleya wrote: »

So if pets can't die in dungeons/trials...which content are they dying in constantly? Overland? Cause that's the only other content I can think of, and if your pet is dying there then you may want to look at your build.

They die everywhere but trials. They should not die in group content places but you know, in 2 - 3 years ZOS might bugfix that.

Mintaka5 · October 2018

Ran world bosses this morning on my magsorc and holy crap I'm squishier than a nightblade with no armor. Most bosses I could survive, now I am wiping with ease.

Metaphor of #nerfmire

ZOS: "hey players, congrats on graduating college. your next big step is kindergarten."

Lakashi · October 2018

I'll do my Event daily stuff, and that's about it at this point. I'm gonna hold out hope they say sorry and revert it for a month or so, then I'm just done. Already cancelled ESO+ though.

TheValar85 · October 2018

Lakashi wrote: »

I'll do my Event daily stuff, and that's about it at this point. I'm gonna hold out hope they say sorry and revert it for a month or so, then I'm just done. Already cancelled ESO+ though.

i am so sorry for that. Honestly. I love this game so much and i wont give up teh fight against this nerf until ZOS will reverse it.
If i have to i will keep this thread alive and when a mod is locking it for no reason i will open an other one. We are not done yet with this patch.

TheValar85 · October 2018

i think another reson why this shield nerf must be reversed is that on PC EU basicly if you do random dungeons with random people, and not with your firend or your guildi the number of fake tanks an healers are basicly dosent stand a chance to heal at all nor the tanks to keep agro and taunting properly, im not saying we DD's are the standing divines when it comes for radom dunegons. I am so pissed by these people. And this nerfed down shield is just messing with those too who can actualy carry them, you can rightfuly say well dont play with pugs, but i have no chose when my guild mates or out of my guild mates are offline basicly everyday, for obvious reasons real life stuff or something else, thats fine.

But nerfing this hard the shileds saying cos healers felt they were less usefull? come on

when i meet out of 200 dungeon run 2 real healers?

realy? i dont want to offend anyone but when this fake healers and fake tanks are cousing way more isuses when it comes for random dungeon running with pugs i think that issue should be solved at the first place becasue those type of players definetly ruins gaming experiance and not outshining at all the shield users. Those who try to carry those fake arses when tehy faild to select a role porperly and paly with it as their role requiered.

Tonturri · October 2018

They should have adjusted how they implement content and the PvE mechanics instead of nerfing fun (and pounding PvP in the process). Ridiculous.

And maybe taken a look at the power creep that lets people burn through pledges and pretty much all content but trials so fast they don't need a healer.

Edit: CoH is a good example. The last fight. I love fights where you CAN burn stuff with massive amounts of damage, but the boss has health percentage based mechanic activations...so if you burn him super fast, you'll suffer stacked up mechanics, making it harder.

WIC_HC · October 2018

TheValar85 wrote: »

About vMA well not every sorc is into pet builds thats true, but now new and old pro palyers will struggle more in there too.

For me, it was only a little bit harder than before, to be honest. I have tested vMA on my magicka sorcs (pet and non-pet build). That the pet died a few times was annoying, yes. But I thought, the nerfs would have a way bigger impact. My sorc will stay my main char. Just my experience ...

TheValar85 · October 2018

WIC_HC wrote: »

TheValar85 wrote: »

About vMA well not every sorc is into pet builds thats true, but now new and old pro palyers will struggle more in there too.

For me, it was only a little bit harder than before, to be honest. I have tested vMA on my magicka sorcs (pet and non-pet build). That the pet died a few times was annoying, yes. But I thought, the nerfs would have a way bigger impact. My sorc will stay my main char. Just my experience ...

i will be hoenst with you, after this patch i was unable to finish vMA and i am not a newbie. And i never skipped any mechanics.

Tonturri wrote: »

They should have adjusted how they implement content and the PvE mechanics instead of nerfing fun (and pounding PvP in the process). Ridiculous.

And maybe taken a look at the power creep that lets people burn through pledges and pretty much all content but trials so fast they don't need a healer.

Edit: CoH is a good example. The last fight. I love fights where you CAN burn stuff with massive amounts of damage, but the boss has health percentage based mechanic activations...so if you burn him super fast, you'll suffer stacked up mechanics, making it harder.

Yeas thats true, but i never went to any tirals without a healer. Even when ppl complaidn about that we can do it without a healer i said no, i am teh lead and i want healer in teh group those who dont like it they can leav the gourp. Interestingly enough they keep thier mouth shout and i prooved them wrong about their statement. And healers were so awesome. They even said this was a nice group setup and after that we went together to the next ones. it was a cool day.

deLioncourt · October 2018

Soleya wrote: »

So if pets can't die in dungeons/trials...which content are they dying in constantly? Overland? Cause that's the only other content I can think of, and if your pet is dying there then you may want to look at your build.

Pets have bugged resistances right now, and are still dying in group content, even though they shouldn't be.

TheValar85 · October 2018

Superhero1257b14_ESO wrote: »

Soleya wrote: »

So if pets can't die in dungeons/trials...which content are they dying in constantly? Overland? Cause that's the only other content I can think of, and if your pet is dying there then you may want to look at your build.

Pets have bugged resistances right now, and are still dying in group content, even though they shouldn't be.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom said this is a bug and they will fix it. So pet builds have a chance to shine again, but shiled users hardly anymore. unless we stand together and ask them to reverse it.

smarmyguy · November 2018

Elo been a sorc since xbox release.

You need to take a step back and completely redesign your load out as a sorc. I've been running spinner lich infernal g and willpower for as long as i can remember. Yes it was over powered but I think the nerfs have been to much at once. They should have brought them in one at a time to find a good balance rather than nerfing nearly every skill and how sheilds work.

See below my new build which is work in progress but im having some good results at the moment:

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=97701

Let me know what you think.

Thanks

PC Steve N Jake (Xbox eu) @Smarmyguy (PC)