Please let us trade-in ALL CRATE items (including collectables) for gems :(

Nyladreas · October 2018

For the 4th time this year I've gotten a mount and crapload of cosmetics that I will never ever use on any character, meanwhile there are tons of items that I'd love to have but don't have enough gems for them...

Why can't we trade our luck in for gems to buy what we want? Instead of just shelving everything...

swippy · October 2018

because then people would do that, instead of buying more crates for something they really want.

that wasn't rhetorical, was it?

StormChaser3000 · October 2018

I doubt that will happen since it's bad for business, but I completely support the idea.
I wish I could exchange for gems that gross bone camel from my collection..

SirAndy · October 2018

Yeah, probably never going to use most of it.

I did get a sweet-roll (!) that was worth 400 gems though, wasn't even tempted to taste that sucker, gemified it immediately ...

Nyladreas · October 2018

swippy wrote: »

because then people would do that, instead of buying more crates for something they really want.

that wasn't rhetorical, was it?

This actually seems counter-productive. As a result I know I won't buy a single *** crate again. I'll just hoard free crates and wait an entire year till the current crates make it back. -.-

Jaraal · October 2018

SirAndy wrote: »

Yeah, probably never going to use most of it.

I did get a sweet-roll (!) that was worth 400 gems though, wasn't even tempted to taste that sucker, gemified it immediately ...

What! My sweetroll is my most prized possession. It sits there on my table looking all uppity and special looking, smug in the realization that it could have been an apex mount, but knowing that it's owner will be back soon to love and lick on it and bask in the glowyness of it's shiny, decadent, indulgence.

idk · October 2018

swippy wrote: »

because then people would do that, instead of buying more crates for something they really want.

that wasn't rhetorical, was it?

This is pretty much it. It would seem sales would drop as a result It would be the same reason we cannot sell items from the crown crates.

Nyladreas · October 2018

idk wrote: »

swippy wrote: »

because then people would do that, instead of buying more crates for something they really want.

that wasn't rhetorical, was it?

This is pretty much it. It would seem sales would drop as a result It would be the same reason we cannot sell items from the crown crates.

Are people really that addicted to gambling? I mean like i said above, this approach actually makes me want to stop spending any more money.

max_only · October 2018

At the very least make the collectibles worth the gem turn in. If the item is 100 gems OUTRIGHT I shouldn’t be getting 33 gems when it’s a duplicate. It should be, at doggamn minimum HALF, 50 gems.

johnbonne · October 2018

Echoing what others have said, it defeats the purpose of the crates - they might as well sell items up front and lose that repeat spending, which I wouldn't be opposed to.

Nyladreas wrote: »

idk wrote: »

swippy wrote: »

because then people would do that, instead of buying more crates for something they really want.

that wasn't rhetorical, was it?

This is pretty much it. It would seem sales would drop as a result It would be the same reason we cannot sell items from the crown crates.

Are people really that addicted to gambling? I mean like i said above, this approach actually makes me want to stop spending any more money.

It seems so. Or rather, the people who make the crates are addicted. They can't help but add them to their game and make it so that people are encouraged to buy crates purely to scrap them for another currency.

On a slightly more serious note, you're right. When publishers add random mechanics with real money tied to them, they then open what I like to call Johndora's (Loot) Box: they might get thousands of players who buy them, or hundreds.... or they might get someone who is against them on principle, and that someone might've given their money for the product up front with no strings attached.

MornaBaine · October 2018

Since I never ever actually want any of the mounts being able to exchange them for gems would be a HUGE boon to me. As it is, I hate having my inventory filled with what is, to me, garbage I'll never use. I just long for the day they find an artist who has ever at least seen a picture of an actual horse.

jainiadral · October 2018

Nyladreas wrote: »

swippy wrote: »

because then people would do that, instead of buying more crates for something they really want.

that wasn't rhetorical, was it?

This actually seems counter-productive. As a result I know I won't buy a single *** crate again. I'll just hoard free crates and wait an entire year till the current crates make it back. -.-

From what I've seen in other games-- yep, people are that addicted. And having a gem conversion-type mechanic makes the crates more addictive because even if you get a bummer of a drop, you can still supposedly fix it by purchasing more crates full of more junk you can convert into what you want. This makes the crates feel like a better value.

Meanwhile, if you do end up a winner, the adrenaline rush hooks you into buying more. Either way, the house wins because the crates are way overpriced.

Kagetenchu · October 2018

idk wrote: »

swippy wrote: »

because then people would do that, instead of buying more crates for something they really want.

that wasn't rhetorical, was it?

This is pretty much it. It would seem sales would drop as a result It would be the same reason we cannot sell items from the crown crates.

If you mean sell to someone else for gold, then that would change the whole "this isn't gambling" line.

If you mean cashing in for gems, I wish it would give us the choice. I only really buy the old crates now that come up on re sale because I know I'll get mostly gems to buy the items from the newer crates that I want unless there is a good mix.

Sevalaricgirl · October 2018

I only buy crates when I want the gems for what's available in the store. I find the crates give me nothing good most of the times. Why is there even purple lipstick in the game and all those tattoos that make no sense at all and they are all the same color, black.

RobZha · October 2018

I get crates occasionally, when I know there's something upcoming that I want. The glowgill guar is the one I want next so saving gems for it, but no idea when it's coming or where from. Anyone have any idea? It could be that it's not even from gems and it's going straight in the crown store as a limited time thing.

And yeah I also have loads of stuff in my collection that I'm never gonna use, would be good to be able to trade it for gems and have thought the same thing in the past.

Malborn66 · October 2018

I will not buy crates as that is just gambling.

I take my free crates when I can get them and convert everything possible into gems.

Today I cashed in a Dark Brotherhood style Book (cost 200 gems) and got back 33. This is a poor exchange and I get stiffed with load of junk which I cannot sell back for gems. With the Outfit system who needs body tattoos?

The good side is that (with previously acquired Gems) I was able to buy the Buoyant Armiger book for 200 gems which was some slight consolation.

Reistr_the_Unbroken · October 2018

I’m saving up gems from the free crates when the storm atro crates come back, but then again I only want two items from it.

JKorr · October 2018

Kagetenchu wrote: »

idk wrote: »

swippy wrote: »

because then people would do that, instead of buying more crates for something they really want.

that wasn't rhetorical, was it?

This is pretty much it. It would seem sales would drop as a result It would be the same reason we cannot sell items from the crown crates.

If you mean sell to someone else for gold, then that would change the whole "this isn't gambling" line.

If you mean cashing in for gems, I wish it would give us the choice. I only really buy the old crates now that come up on re sale because I know I'll get mostly gems to buy the items from the newer crates that I want unless there is a good mix.

Might not want to say this too loudly. Once upon a time, people posted that they didn't get the apex mount they wanted, but they did get enough gems from duplicates and the trade-back consumables to buy the mount they wanted, therefore they wouldn't be buying more crates until there was something else they really wanted..... Shortly after, the "radiant apex" mounts appeared, that you can't buy with gems, they have to be gotten from the crates.....

Sevalaricgirl · February 2019

Sevalaricgirl wrote: »

I only buy crates when I want the gems for what's available in the store. I find the crates give me nothing good most of the times. Why is there even purple lipstick in the game and all those tattoos that make no sense at all and they are all the same color, black.

Absolutely, it's incredibly stupid but that's the point, you're stuck with crap that you can't do anything with, so you buy more to try and try again. Whoever created those tattoos should think twice about their careers if they think that's art. They are the ugliest things I have ever seen.

VDoom1 · February 2019

That is one way ZOS gets money. From us buying more and more crates in hopes of the item/items we actually want dropping. Curse you RNG.

Aurielle · February 2019

RobZha wrote: »

I get crates occasionally, when I know there's something upcoming that I want. The glowgill guar is the one I want next so saving gems for it, but no idea when it's coming or where from. Anyone have any idea? It could be that it's not even from gems and it's going straight in the crown store as a limited time thing.

And yeah I also have loads of stuff in my collection that I'm never gonna use, would be good to be able to trade it for gems and have thought the same thing in the past.

The glow gill guar was a daily login reward.

Kiralyn2000 · February 2019

Kind of defeats the purpose of random prize packs, if you can just trade everything back in.

Also, I imagine that the coding of the 'collectables' system might make this difficult - they'd probably have to re-do how it keeps track of stuff.

(I don't buy crates, but I'll happily open free ones. I don't care for the mounts, 95% of the tattoos, or skins. I've used a number of tiaras/headbands & earrings & costumes. I've used gems on low-end costumes & big statues.)

Ri_Khan · February 2019

Stop buying crates...problem solved.

Nyladreas · February 2019

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Stop buying crates...problem solved.

I was complaining about free ones. I can afford to buy enough to get what I want but still don't, cause it's not fair to people who don't make enough.

It's a shady tactic.

Liww · February 2019

it would be a neat eso+ feature to be able to convert a few rewards a month into crowns. Converting them all will never happen.

Taleof2Cities · February 2019

Nyladreas wrote: »

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Stop buying crates...problem solved.

I was complaining about free ones. I can afford to buy enough to get what I want but still don't, cause it's not fair to people who don't make enough.

It's a shady tactic.

Not fair?

Players on a limited income should be budgeting their crown purchases ... or not buying crown crates at all. Pretty simple.