Fighter guild V Templar skill

SugaComa
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So I see I on the patch that templars have had a change to one of the rune skills
Restoring Focus (morph): This morph now costs Stamina and grants Stamina to you every second, and no longer gives Minor Vitality and Minor Protection.


So why choose this over the fighter guild skill

Circle of protection and it's morphs
Brand the earth at your location with a rune of protection for 20 seconds. You and your allies in the area gain Minor Protection and Minor Endurance, reducing your damage taken by 8% and increasing your Stamina Recovery by 10%

Something I always take on my own stamplar

The change to rune focus seems unrequired ...

I get minor protection has moved on templars passives ... But isn't the fighters guild still a better option considering it has two morphs that add to its abilities
Edited by SugaComa on October 24, 2018 10:54AM
  • jeedrzej
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    Becouse restoring focus is cheaper and gives you more stamina...? (even while blocking)
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  • Checkmath
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    Circle of protection costs 7987 stamina base cost, meanwhile restoring focus costs 1080 stamina. Focus gives you unconditional 240 stamina every second, equal to 480 stamina recovery. So you would have to have 4800 stamina recovery to get the same stamina recovery from circle of protection. Also then there is still the difference of almost 7000 stamina cost. So if you never block and stand in the circle of protection, then you will restore 4800 stamina (only if you have that sick amount of recovery), but you paid with almost 8000 stamina, which is a stamina loss of 3200 stamina. Meanwhile restoring focus gives you the same amount of stamina, even if you are blocking and costs 1080 stamina at max. So this is a win of almost 3800 stamina. See the difference?
  • SugaComa
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    You get added perks from the circle of protection morphs allowing for greater utility or are those utilities just not worth it ?
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    SugaComa wrote: »
    You get added perks from the circle of protection morphs allowing for greater utility or are those utilities just not worth it ?

    What utilities? Lower Dodge cost? Making undead and deadra run? No, not even close to worth it. If you can see the value of almost 8k armor and spell resistance while in your rune AND a crazy 480 regen, guaranteed, I don't know what to tell you. Really, @Checkmath has said all that you need to know.
  • susmitds
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    SugaComa wrote: »
    You get added perks from the circle of protection morphs allowing for greater utility or are those utilities just not worth it ?

    The base cost of Circle of Procreation is so high that using it is basically asking to strain your sustain.
  • SugaComa
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    Thanks ... I play magplar mostly but just starting to put a stamplars together ... I suck bad with stam abilities so was trying to get as much information as I could ..

    I see a few using CoP in PvP so thought it might have an advantage

    I'm guessing not ...I'm guessing it's more of it was the only option before and I'll see it used less after the 6th
  • Ragnarock41
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    CoP is absolute garbage. I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to figure out why a stationary stamina buff(that can be achieved free from a potion) that costs 8k stamina is bad.
    Edited by Ragnarock41 on October 24, 2018 12:44PM
  • Silver_Strider
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    Listen, you cut the cost to 4k, add a HoT effect. make Turn Undead apply a DoT instead of a HoT while CoPr reduce the cost of blocking+dodging and then maybe, just maybe, CoP would be worth using.
    Edited by Silver_Strider on October 24, 2018 11:24PM
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  • raj72616a
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    on my stamplar tank, Restoring Focus costs abt 335 stamina. the cost is refunded in 2 seconds and i'll be gaining stamina for the next 18 seconds.
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    raj72616a wrote: »
    on my stamplar tank, Restoring Focus costs abt 335 stamina. the cost is refunded in 2 seconds and i'll be gaining stamina for the next 18 seconds.

    What does the rest of your build look like?
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