psypanda wrote: »

yep its just you

me too, it's a great update for my templar.

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Seeing a lot of positive feedback from people. Looks like a good patch.

Excited for the console release here shortly...more time to farm this sweet event in the meantime.

Content wise it's meant to be pretty amazing (feedback from friends), balance wise it's controversial, stability/bug wise it needs a incremental quote badly.

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Today I was exploring Murkmire, and what I saw is a zone done very carefully and with great attention to every detail. It is full of big intriguing things and small details. Exciting details await everywhere! Amazing new costumes. Argonian are terrific, but female Khajiit clothes just left me speechless. Incredible plants. I felt like a curious child when tried to crouch to a plant – it was… hiding in the ground when I approached! Argonian culture – alien as it should be, not a dissolved, average Tamrielic way of life. Music instruments and Argonian songs… oh my, I love it! A new home… a Xanmeer… yes, I will never afford it. I wish I could. So creative and so beautiful. I will just roam there via preview option to enjoy the asthenosphere.

A whole new world to be explored, so bright, so vivid, mysterious and unique. I’m happy with Murkmire, and I really want to thank @ZOS team for this incredible meticulous work. And I’m really happy to have a Haj Mota pet!

There's always one.

i play mag--levelled 2 mag sorcs recently and don't like how stam plays...

so, if i log in and give it a try but don't like it, i'm worried i'll lose interest.

not going to be dramatic about, but you know?

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Today I was exploring Murkmire, and what I saw is a zone done very carefully and with great attention to every detail. It is full of big intriguing things and small details. Exciting details await everywhere! Amazing new costumes. Argonian are terrific, but female Khajiit clothes just left me speechless. Incredible plants. I felt like a curious child when tried to crouch to a plant – it was… hiding in the ground when I approached! Argonian culture – alien as it should be, not a dissolved, average Tamrielic way of life. Music instruments and Argonian songs… oh my, I love it! A new home… a Xanmeer… yes, I will never afford it. I wish I could. So creative and so beautiful. I will just roam there via preview option to enjoy the asthenosphere.

A whole new world to be explored, so bright, so vivid, mysterious and unique. I’m happy with Murkmire, and I really want to thank @ZOS team for this incredible meticulous work. And I’m really happy to have a Haj Mota pet!

You are the kind of player ZOS designed Murkmire for. I don't mean that to be disparaging! I'm really glad you're enjoying it.

Many of the vocal players on the forums don't prioritize environments, costumes, plants, exploration, etc. Many of us started playing the game because it offered

- classes that feel balanced and rewarding in challenging combat situations
- well-designed open world PVP, regardless of whether you preferred large-scale, small-scale, or solo play
- engaging endgame PVE group content that always kept you on your toes while still allowing you to feel strong

Murkmire has taken huge steps backward on all three of those issues, even as the things you mentioned that you are most excited about have become some of the games strongest points. I'm happy for you and players like you, but it's still sad to think about what the game used to offer.

Sorta.

I want to remain optimistic, and I want to believe there's a larger vision.

For example, the change to active dodge, where you have to be dodging a second before the hit, rather than the cast. That's a change I can get behind. It was pretty dumb when an enemy player or dungeon boss casts something, I dodge, then projectile finally gets to me and "DODGE" pops up, that just looked ridiculous. On the other hand, the change where resistances apply before hitting shields makes no sense to me. Magic shields are magic shields. The resistances and bonuses underneath shouldn't affect them, they should be a thing onto themselves.

I want to believe that they have a large, long-term vision of where they want their game to end up, mechanically speaking. What kind of combat they want to foster. The problem is how slow and piecemeal they are implementing these changes, and they're not communicating this vision to us. Probably for fear that they won't be able to deliver it as described.

Well I'm trying to do skin runs with my prog teams... yeah not a fan of this patch.

I think the word "grateful to ZOS" is totally out of place in this context. If the zone and quests are well designed and you think you got what you paid for then they're just being honorable businessmen.

Then there are those of us who expect well-thought-out combat balance and bug-free content for their money instead of fancy mount giveaways...

yeah if you dont like pvp this is a good patch lol

casparian wrote: »

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Today I was exploring Murkmire, and what I saw is a zone done very carefully and with great attention to every detail. It is full of big intriguing things and small details. Exciting details await everywhere! Amazing new costumes. Argonian are terrific, but female Khajiit clothes just left me speechless. Incredible plants. I felt like a curious child when tried to crouch to a plant – it was… hiding in the ground when I approached! Argonian culture – alien as it should be, not a dissolved, average Tamrielic way of life. Music instruments and Argonian songs… oh my, I love it! A new home… a Xanmeer… yes, I will never afford it. I wish I could. So creative and so beautiful. I will just roam there via preview option to enjoy the asthenosphere.

A whole new world to be explored, so bright, so vivid, mysterious and unique. I’m happy with Murkmire, and I really want to thank @ZOS team for this incredible meticulous work. And I’m really happy to have a Haj Mota pet!

You are the kind of player ZOS designed Murkmire for. I don't mean that to be disparaging! I'm really glad you're enjoying it.

Many of the vocal players on the forums don't prioritize environments, costumes, plants, exploration, etc. Many of us started playing the game because it offered

- classes that feel balanced and rewarding in challenging combat situations
- well-designed open world PVP, regardless of whether you preferred large-scale, small-scale, or solo play
- engaging endgame PVE group content that always kept you on your toes while still allowing you to feel strong

Murkmire has taken huge steps backward on all three of those issues, even as the things you mentioned that you are most excited about have become some of the games strongest points. I'm happy for you and players like you, but it's still sad to think about what the game used to offer.

As someone who has played Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, I can safely say I'm someone who didn't play ESO for the PvP or group content. As someone who is moreso annoyed by Skuldafn being where Blacklight should be.

While I do think that the combat isn't anything to write home about, I never felt that it has in ESO. Nor have I ever really gotten that feeling of really dynamic combat from any Elder Scrolls game (the closest being Skyrim's). But I'm fine with ESO's combat not being as dynamic as, say, Warframe's. Would that have made the game better? Probably. But I still enjoy ESO for what it is, and care a lot more about the lore than the combat. And at the very least, ESO's combat makes me feel stronger than WoW's combat ever did.

I always choose Argonian as the race to play as in every Elder Scrolls game I've played. They're by far my favorite race, and I've always been fascinated by their lore. So to see how much care was put into Murkmire from a lore-perspective is honestly all I, personally, could have ever wanted or asked for from Murkmire.