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Will you slot a shield in Murkmire?
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Vicarra✭✭✭✭✭I slotted a shield before Murkmire, but will not do so anymore.Rerolling as stamsorc, because if you can't beat them, you may as well join them.PAWS - Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff!
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lokulin✭✭✭✭✭I slotted a shield before Murkmire, but will not do so anymore.Have shields been nerfed in PvE too? I thought it was only in PvP.
Kind of. It really depends on your character. As a console player I haven't been able to play on PTS, but if you have decent resists and health it's probably going to be a wash. The sorcerer shield and light armor skill line shield are capped at 40-50% of your health, but they also now inherit your resistances. Which means if you run around with more resistances and decent health already you won't notice much of a difference in most instances. Folks who do glass cannon characters will have some issues though, I'd wager... which is the intention of the change.
After playing on live it is definitely a nerf. It is hard to get very high resistances when playing 5/1/1 with the majority light armour. It also puts extra pressure on an already crowded bar if you are a pet sorc as you might want to run surge and boundless storm to raise your resists and get some passive healing back. Almost makes dual pet builds unviable but you kind of need the burst heal from the twilight matriach in some solo content as you can't always rely on the RNG based heal from surge.I've hidden your signature.1 -
Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You’ve got Bright Throat’s Boast AND Necropotence and you can’t slot tristat runes to boost your health and shield cap, why? You lose next to nothing and gain survivabilty.
The QQ is almost as bad as Morrowind’s. Almost. Also rerolling stamina won’t save you if your a blind button masher either, given the removal of passive dodge and changes to dodge roll.0 -
lokulin✭✭✭✭✭I slotted a shield before Murkmire, but will not do so anymore.Peekachu99 wrote: »You lose next to nothing and gain survivabilty.
...oh and a huge DPS loss in PVE for most characters that are already nowhere near the top of the list as far as DPS goes. Might be ok for PvP tho.I've hidden your signature.1 -
Azriael2✭✭✭As petsorc in PvE I didn't killed everything in blink of eye like some classes (any blade..), so I needed a shield to defend myself.. Right now I need to give up one pet for Lightning Form to not die too fast and my dmg is still same as water pistol splash, funny.."Rise, red as the dawn."1 -
Numerikuu✭✭✭✭✭
✭I slotted a shield before Murkmire, but will not do so anymore.Depends. But for the most part? No. Too little defense for the cost.0 -
troomar✭✭✭✭I did not slot a shield before Murkmire, but will start slotting one.Shields nerf is a buff if you're playing stamDPS
Yes.1 -
Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I slotted a shield before Murkmire, but will not do so anymore.Given that my existing shield now seems to have all the stopping power of a wet tissue... I am pretty sure that I am going to have to rethink that one.1 -
Mintaka5✭✭✭✭✭Other.At least one shield (getting rid of harness magicka), but I have been learning how to play without one, even though it's a bit less secure feeling. Heavy damage is putting way more pressure on me than I expected. In PvE this is a really big deal, because dungeon content seems way more difficult than it did before. In PvP it's really irrelevant. A fight against a non-meta build, or mediocre skilled players is the same, but better or worse shields make no difference against one-shot killers in Cyrodiil.0
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Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »You lose next to nothing and gain survivabilty.
...oh and a huge DPS loss in PVE for most characters that are already nowhere near the top of the list as far as DPS goes. Might be ok for PvP tho.
Did you actually read what I wrote or just parrot something without thinking? I literally just handed you a gear-combo for more damage and sustain than is currently on live.0 -
FatFred✭✭✭I will continue to slot the same shield I slotted before Murkmire.To be honest, less is better than nothing, i will remain in using of my shield skills, coz I have no options.0 -
PapaWeeb✭✭✭✭Will still use shimmering shield on magden. Will have to test the dampen in some vet dungeons to see if still worth running on occasion. Timed shields just seems ridiculous lol. I get so many funny images imagining the thought process of whoever came up with these shield nerfs.
The cast time didn't go through, if that's what you mean. They're still instant castPC EU0 -
ZeroXFF✭✭✭✭✭
✭I slotted a shield before Murkmire, but will not do so anymore.Luckily my templar has options and can slot a heal instead. Though I've yet to check if the change with resistances will make up for the HP cap on shields. If so, I might stick with dampen magic. Don't think I'll be playing my magblade or magsorc a lot this patch.
My resist capped DK tank is happy though, even with those nerfs to shield strength it's still a 33% buff.0 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭since they screwed healing ward I'm replacing Harness with Blessing of protectionFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info0 -
biovitalb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I will continue to slot the same shield I slotted before Murkmire.I'll use the same one I always used, but I wasn't a baddie that could only survive by spamming them or stacking them.0 -
Pink_Violinz✭✭✭✭✭I will slot a different shield than I did before Murkmire.Might finally use the resto shield in PvE now. I've been resisting it for the longest time due to the cost, but depending on how strong the light armor's shield is I might finally have to make the change.
Every other character of mine is going to continue using the same shield. I've been playing them with it for far too long to suddenly change it, weaker or not.0 -
rabidmyers✭✭✭✭✭I did not slot a shield before Murkmire, and probably never will.never really was a shield guyat a place nobody knows0 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Other.My one pet (Matriarch) magsorc was a soloer. As such, she happily accepted unimpressive dps (all of it AoE) in order to have good survivability and sustain. Heavy attacks for sustain. Survivability: Surge, Boundless Storm, Matriarch Burst heal, Necropotence + Julianos for big magicka (big shield), Empowered ward for the 20K shield on sorc and matriarch. She killed slowly but safely which was exactly what I wanted. Her 'build' attention went into high magicka (shield) and high crit (proc surge heals). She was never a 'glass cannon'.
First thing I did this morning was check her empowered ward. 7K instead of 20K. I'm crying too much to keep typing. I loved that character. . . .Edited by AcadianPaladin on October 22, 2018 7:15PMPC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo2 -
Datolite✭✭✭✭✭I did not slot a shield before Murkmire, but will start slotting one.I feel for everyone who got nerfed. In my case, this is a reason to actually go for shield now.
Templar tanks have always been a bit lame but with this change I might actually try a magplar shield tank. High resistances, Brands of Imperium, Lunar Bastion... it's gonna open up a whole new play style.
Still, sucks for magsorcs etc.0 -
karekiz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I will continue to slot the same shield I slotted before Murkmire.Yes, I put more points into Light armor resist + Spell shield since change0 -
Sercisil✭✭Other.i have a stamina nb too.
no point to play as a mana dd now in the patch: you'll get the same survivability problems as stam dd, but with lower dps.
so my sorc will slot shield, but it doesn't matter, because she's a crafter now))0 -
RANKK7✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, the big shield I did put on my wallet, it got a buff, increased from 50% to 100%.
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Edited by RANKK7 on October 22, 2018 7:29PMlll
"I really don't know who the **** came off with this change. Definitely somebody who does not play the game, that's for sure".
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Emmagoldman✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other.I will try out bgs tonight and change depending, i might just go magsorc tank0 -
EdoKeledus✭✭✭I did not slot a shield before Murkmire, and probably never will.I will carry on killing magsorcs and magblades with my magdk, murkmire doesn't matterDC PC EU Vivec
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Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I will continue to slot the same shield I slotted before Murkmire.I only use a shield for vMA. Shields are not needed for any other PVE content.
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srfrogg23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I did not slot a shield before Murkmire, and probably never will.I never really used one on my magblade. Needed the space for damage abilities.0
