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  • THE_BIG_BOSS
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    SHIELDS ARE WEAK, SHIELDS NEED TO DIE
  • Itzmichi
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    susmitds wrote: »
    BTW, shields are mainly a PvE nerf.

    Welcome to the stamina world.

    You Sir just earned yourself a cookie. 🍪



    Adapt!
    Here, have a chill pill 💊!
  • Wizhunter
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    Every game you play they say this has been nerfed and that has been nerfed, I think Zos do it because they are trying to make it a level playing field, the more you play and learn to play a class the better you become. I would also like the one hit Ambush skill on my NB, that would be awesome :)

    Wiz
  • shiningforce
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    Wizhunter wrote: »
    Every game you play they say this has been nerfed and that has been nerfed, I think Zos do it because they are trying to make it a level playing field, the more you play and learn to play a class the better you become. I would also like the one hit Ambush skill on my NB, that would be awesome :)

    Wiz

    You think? Every nerf in patches with classes in every mmo are trying to level the playing field. yet it never happens. they just make 1 class weaker, and another one becomes the strongest.
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  • Tonno_SenSei
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    I tell you what a sorc told to my magdk after morrowind patch:

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  • Biro123
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    I tell you what a sorc told to my magdk after morrowind patch:

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    Did he poke you in the eye too?
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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  • Miswar
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    Sergykid wrote: »
    u know u have 3 other ways to heal.

    pet, surge, and conversion, which will be more convenient if it becomes instant cast. Shield now need to be used tactically, just like it should have been for a long time, enough of magsorc facerolling bullshift

    Pet Surge = Non existantg heals
    Dark Conversion = Casting times and slow as.....
    Pet = LOL

    These are just utterly stupid remarks without any substance.

    Kind of reflects how garbage the game has gotten too so in a sense it suits.

    Just stop posting nonsense on the stuff you have absolutely no idea how they work. Thank you
  • evoniee
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    LFG BOSS.

    stop it guys, it is already made to live
  • TheValar85
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    SHIELDS ARE WEAK, SHIELDS NEED TO DIE

    My dear friend i have saved your life countless times with my shield cos i was able to live long enough to heal you up with my healing ward combined with healing ulty :D so please dont do that with your fellow comrad who fight by your side FOR THE QUEEN.
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  • Rel82meboo
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    i have been on this game since beta...and i am not done paying for ZOS's bull ***... ive always did 6 month subs and gave money to the crown store but the sudden trashing of the sorcs im done with ESO for good even if they fix it..they've made their point and showed me their true colors...good riddance time to put that money and time into another developer that listens to its user base and not just its streamers and pvp complaining bi$@s
  • TheValar85
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    Rel82meboo wrote: »
    i have been on this game since beta...and i am not done paying for ZOS's bull ***... ive always did 6 month subs and gave money to the crown store but the sudden trashing of the sorcs im done with ESO for good even if they fix it..they've made their point and showed me their true colors...good riddance time to put that money and time into another developer that listens to its user base and not just its streamers and pvp complaining bi$@s

    I am so agree with you i can't even give you enough agree for that.
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  • RMerlin
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    I tell you what a sorc told to my magdk after morrowind patch:

    You forget the important fact that this is a game, this is not real life. If a series of nerfs prevents us from playing in a way that we find enjoyable, then the solution is not to "adapt", the solution is to find something else to do which we enjoy. And if nerfs make no sense (like the original 1 sec cast time on shields), then the solution is not to roll over and die, but to point out to ZOS where they've gone wrong, and hope to get them to reconsider (which they thankfully partly did with the shield changes).

    If I encounter a problem in real life, I adapt. If I encounter a problem in a game, I move on to something else.

    PS: I tried to see if I could adjust to these changes, and after trying out a few things during the past two weeks, I find these to be no longer enjoyable to play. So I'm moving on to something else until ZOS reconsiders.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    susmitds wrote: »
    BTW, shields are mainly a PvE nerf.

    Welcome to the stamina world.

    So magicka PVE world, where magicka dominates arena, dungeons and trials is ok? basically stamina is for tanks and for try hards now.. if anyone wants fast and simple result he'll go to magicka.. stamina guys are farming their maelstorm bows and reliquens on magsorcs and magblades alts.. 75% of population you see wears a staff. You wait in queue for tanks for 15 minutes, well because tank rarely can be efficient magicka user, so tanks are rare, because they are stick with stamina, while most cool class staff is magicka based and everyone is bored with hail, caltrops and traps they are forced to use with stamina build.
  • RebornV3x
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    RIP Sorc 2014- 2018 just do what do and pretend this class doesn't exist anymore as far as I'm concerned the class is dead reroll Nightblade, Templar is looking really good this patch or play anything but mag warden and relax or just play something else I took a break when Morrowind came out and didn't come back for 6 months might do the same since Sorcs will be garbage for PVP and with the hit to shields and lack of survivability well probably have a hard time getting into serious trial runs as a DPS
    Edited by RebornV3x on October 22, 2018 4:39PM
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    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • Tonno_SenSei
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    RMerlin wrote: »
    I tell you what a sorc told to my magdk after morrowind patch:

    You forget the important fact that this is a game, this is not real life. If a series of nerfs prevents us from playing in a way that we find enjoyable, then the solution is not to "adapt", the solution is to find something else to do which we enjoy. And if nerfs make no sense (like the original 1 sec cast time on shields), then the solution is not to roll over and die, but to point out to ZOS where they've gone wrong, and hope to get them to reconsider (which they thankfully partly did with the shield changes).

    If I encounter a problem in real life, I adapt. If I encounter a problem in a game, I move on to something else.

    PS: I tried to see if I could adjust to these changes, and after trying out a few things during the past two weeks, I find these to be no longer enjoyable to play. So I'm moving on to something else until ZOS reconsiders.

    If i like the game and ZOS nerf my char into the ground and i can't enjoy it anymore i just move to another char. Or just try to change build (adapt). If you want to quit just quit, but don't cry for a nerf because everybody get nerfed every patch.
  • RMerlin
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    RMerlin wrote: »
    I tell you what a sorc told to my magdk after morrowind patch:

    You forget the important fact that this is a game, this is not real life. If a series of nerfs prevents us from playing in a way that we find enjoyable, then the solution is not to "adapt", the solution is to find something else to do which we enjoy. And if nerfs make no sense (like the original 1 sec cast time on shields), then the solution is not to roll over and die, but to point out to ZOS where they've gone wrong, and hope to get them to reconsider (which they thankfully partly did with the shield changes).

    If I encounter a problem in real life, I adapt. If I encounter a problem in a game, I move on to something else.

    PS: I tried to see if I could adjust to these changes, and after trying out a few things during the past two weeks, I find these to be no longer enjoyable to play. So I'm moving on to something else until ZOS reconsiders.

    If i like the game and ZOS nerf my char into the ground and i can't enjoy it anymore i just move to another char. Or just try to change build (adapt). If you want to quit just quit, but don't cry for a nerf because everybody get nerfed every patch.

    I'm also moving to another character, I never said I was quitting...

    And no, you can't compare the round of nerfs magsorcs just got with your "regular" nerfs. They didn't just tone things down, they completely changed the way various things worked in one single patch.
  • TheValar85
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    Oh god i am so dissapointed now. the forum will be flooded so hard about this sorc nerf and so many of them will be so pissed.
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  • Davor
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    TheValar85 wrote: »
    Oh god i am so dissapointed now. the forum will be flooded so hard about this sorc nerf and so many of them will be so pissed.

    What do you mean "will be"? It's been like that for what, the last two weeks? Maybe 4? :p
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
  • Kadoin
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    Biro123 wrote: »
    I tell you what a sorc told to my magdk after morrowind patch:

    8d0c04b606c49546.jpg

    Did he poke you in the eye too?

    :D
    Edited by Kadoin on October 22, 2018 8:45PM
  • SirMewser
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    Update 20 was absolute mess.
    PetSorc is screwed without shield, but oh wait, pets can't die in some content (but not all).
    What's the point of that useless Rebate passive?
    How about the Eternal Guardian?
    New players are going to be so confused why half of their toolkit functions differently as they play different PVE content.
    Lousy design.

    Minor Prophecy is now 6% spell crit, so now Sorcs have something bigger to offer.
    So everyone use crystal fragments?
    Encase maybe if you're a tank.
    Rune Prison? Keep that *** out of PVE.
    Dark Exchange? Yeah, let me stop what I'm doing and pop that for ya.
    How about Daedric Mines? Maybe in trash mobs but it costs a lot and way better damage options.
    Negate is bad uptime for how much it costs.


    Then we have the daedric summoning line.
    Oh my... The consistency here makes me want to stab myself in the eyes.
    • Greater Storm Atronach (and the trash morph that no one should use) inherits; spell damage, penetration, CP, max magic, and player buffs.
    • Volatile Familiar scales off of; penetration, CP, max magic, and player buffs, but not spell damage.
    • Twilight Tormentor scales off of; max magic and nothing else. What the heck?! It's going to be 2019 and Twilight Tormentor still looks like ***.
    Daedric Prey, why must it buff all pets by 55% but the atronach by 40% instead of just adjusting the atronach and make it 55% across the board?
    Empowered Ward would be great for a healer in group instances to provide minor intellect and to protect her and her... oh wait, she can't die. No need to use shield (groups loses minor intellect). Then later she realizes her best friend was squash by a world boss, swarmed by mobs in a delv, and did vMA. She had to learn the hard way...

    Bound Armor, passives and active makes it useful for a tank. Too bad it eats up bar space for DDs with a useless active only to get 8% max magic.

    Want to play healer?
    Eldritch Mender will tell you to use dark deal... What?
    Bolt Escape....
    Then throw on Inner Light and Bound Aegis to eat up 2 slots.
    Then put Twilight Matriarch to take another 2.
    "Oh by the way, we took your overload bar this patch" Thanks ZOS!
    Now just throw all the restoration staff abilities into where they fit...
    Don't forget about absorption field.


    Awesome, we cast Matriarch for our "Oh ***t", absorption once a year, and Bolt Escape for whatever **** reason.
    And when you're done all of that, just keep pressing dark deal till your magic drains untill your group die before you either get kicked or log off to delete your character.


    Well done ZoS!
    Edited by SirMewser on October 22, 2018 10:42PM
  • Aethereal'Golden
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    Sorcerers are simply unplayable and boring now. Feels like the whole class was wiped off. No mobility, no security, no sustain, no fun.
  • ccmedaddy
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    SirMewser wrote: »
    Daedric Prey, why must it buff all pets by 55% but the atronach by 40% instead of just adjusting the atronach and make it 55% across the board?
    What a weird thing to complain about. You do realize changing the atronach like that would result in a nerf for non-pet sorcs and stamsorcs that use the ultimate too?

    Also, Bolt Escape on a healer? Wut...
  • SirMewser
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    ccmedaddy wrote: »
    SirMewser wrote: »
    Daedric Prey, why must it buff all pets by 55% but the atronach by 40% instead of just adjusting the atronach and make it 55% across the board?
    What a weird thing to complain about. You do realize changing the atronach like that would result in a nerf for non-pet sorcs and stamsorcs that use the ultimate too?

    You mean people use the Storm Atronach without daedric prey?
    That's terrible. :'(
    ccmedaddy wrote: »
    Also, Bolt Escape on a healer? Wut...

    Skill advisor is :trollface:

    Edited by SirMewser on October 22, 2018 11:03PM
  • ccmedaddy
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    SirMewser wrote: »
    ccmedaddy wrote: »
    Also, Bolt Escape on a healer? Wut...

    Skill advisor is :trollface:
    :dizzy::bawling:
  • DeathlurkZ
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    Just ran COH and my character is so squishy now with this shield nerf, and my pets die non stop... thought they were supposed to be invincible? Ya bye magsorc... (I even switched my glyphs to all health before running to see if that would help)
  • MartiniDaniels
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    DeathlurkZ wrote: »
    Just ran COH and my character is so squishy now with this shield nerf, and my pets die non stop... thought they were supposed to be invincible? Ya bye magsorc... (I even switched my glyphs to all health before running to see if that would help)

    Pets shouldn't die in CoH, probably bug.
  • maboleth
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    I agree in one thing - Pet sorc having pets "dying there but not dying here" for same enemies (e.g. trash mobs) is confusing and should be evened out somehow. While certainly helpful and less frustrating, it's a band aid fix. At least write it in the tooltip so new players will know.
  • winterbornb14_ESO
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    This is why ZoS will never get another penny from me.

    Stop *** up your PvE game due to PvP complaints!

    ** This was all about PvP, no matter what the idiots devs said.**
  • Soleya
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    So if pets can't die in dungeons/trials...which content are they dying in constantly? Overland? Cause that's the only other content I can think of, and if your pet is dying there then you may want to look at your build.
  • Lakashi
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    Yeah, I'm at the point I am no longer finding the game fun. This is the worst patch I have ever seen them put out (granted I have only played for 1.5 years). And they clearly don't care what the players who play the game and pay them think. Did ZOS and Lucasfilm merge or something?
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