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Is Fury overperforming?
THE_BIG_BOSS
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A Set that gives 700(!!!!!) Weapon damage Just for taking some damage?
What do you Guys think?
What do you Guys think?
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Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I mean onyx isn't all that much expensive anymore, so it's kind of become the meta where dragonstone and glory used to be, but eh. I still like having teleport charges on my glory. Utility's better than a tiny extra bit of att and max hit.
Edited by Judas Helviaryn on October 22, 2018 1:59AM3 -
DoonerSeraph✭✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »I mean onyx isn't all that much expensive anymore, so it's kind of become the meta where dragonstone and glory used to be, but eh. I still like having teleport charges on my glory. Utility's better than a tiny extra bit of att and max hit.
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Cursa✭✭I know that this set can still works well in even fights (where you take continuous damage) but I find it hard to justify taking away/nerfing a set that has its best use when someone is getting pummelled by a few enemies, and worst use from someone sat at the back of a zerg spamming snipe. This should be a more common trend.11 -
pkuronen✭✭✭Fury set requires skilled gameplay and is not yet another hypothetical uber thing to be nerfed. I myself tried playing it and found it zero useful with my playing style.5
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Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"high risk"? When fighting someone you take damage constantly anyway (dots, waving etc.) there is no skill or risk involved, the only play style where this set is not useful are zergs, period.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.4 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It is overpowered. I slapped it on StamNB, kept Vigor and Healing Cloak up for 15-20sec and it was fully procced by just 2 guys. The more they hit me, the stronger my Vigor and FM gets, and they can't burn through it.0 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The holy trinity of heavy armor sets that completely overshadows medium and light armor: ravager, fury and seventhlegion Id personally love to see these sets adjusted.
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Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The holy trinity of heavy armor sets that completely overshadows medium and light armor: ravager, fury and seventhlegion Id personally love to see these sets adjusted.
100% agree on that. Heavy shouldn't have better damaging sets than light and medium.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.7 -
themaddaedra✭✭✭✭✭
✭The holy trinity of heavy armor sets that completely overshadows medium and light armor: ravager, fury and seventhlegion Id personally love to see these sets adjusted.
I saw some dude's video where he was hitting 6.7k weapon damage in heavy armor. That's incredibly dumb. Peeps in medium armor can't have it.
This heavy armor meta is utterly disgusting and getting more and more boring every day. I wouldn't mind if these sets were buried into dusty hell.PC|EU6 -
kaithuzar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Where’s my 700 spell damage in heavy armor set?Member of:
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Olupajmibanan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Maybe in Cyrodiil (not a worthy reference).
In BGs it doesn't work as much as you would have thought.0 -
MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I guarantee you that nobody in the history of ever, has reached max stacks. Most people just run a 10% crit chance in pvp, and the stacks reset after just 6 seconds. No way this set can be over-performing, common sense alone says otherwise."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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themaddaedra✭✭✭✭✭
✭I guarantee you that nobody in the history of ever, has reached max stacks. Most people just run a 10% crit chance in pvp, and the stacks reset after just 6 seconds. No way this set can be over-performing, common sense alone says otherwise.
Nobody ever runs with %10 crit chance. Common sense says not making up numbers to defend something that shouldn't have existed in the first place.PC|EU3 -
Itzmichi✭✭✭✭✭As mentioned above set requires skilled Yolo playstyle so I I think it should be at least rewarding, right?Here, have a chill pill 💊!3 -
pdblake✭✭✭✭✭
✭nryerson1025 wrote: »this is like the 11th troll post from this guy in the past month or so
Yeah, how do I put him on an ignore list. Sick of seeing nerf posts.Edited by pdblake on October 22, 2018 9:11AM2 -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭"high risk"? When fighting someone you take damage constantly anyway (dots, waving etc.) there is no skill or risk involved, the only play style where this set is not useful are zergs, period.
Getting critted 25 times seems like a high risk to me. Especially when bleeds are considered the meta.
I'd dislike to see a plain nerf to heavy sets without anything else. And to simply swap 7th etc to medium would be nonsense bc of the proc conditions, except maybe the armor of truth. Maybe it would be better if zenimax adds high-stat sets to medium instead of proc sets, revamp some medium sets (e.g. duration buff on senche etc.) and "slightly" adjust the 3 meta culprits. I say slightly bc we all know that the usual adjustment here is to make overperforming sets completely worthless and it's no good to swap one meta for another instead of increasing diversity by making many things comparably viable.1 -
Pastas✭✭✭THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »A Set that gives 700(!!!!!) Weapon damage Just for taking some damage?
What do you Guys think?
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Bevik✭✭✭✭themaddaedra wrote: »The holy trinity of heavy armor sets that completely overshadows medium and light armor: ravager, fury and seventhlegion Id personally love to see these sets adjusted.
I saw some dude's video where he was hitting 6.7k weapon damage in heavy armor. That's incredibly dumb. Peeps in medium armor can't have it.
This heavy armor meta is utterly disgusting and getting more and more boring every day. I wouldn't mind if these sets were buried into dusty hell.
Heavy passives should be adjusted a lot, this heavy meta is creeping me out of PvP.1 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It is overpowered. I slapped it on StamNB, kept Vigor and Healing Cloak up for 15-20sec and it was fully procced by just 2 guys. The more they hit me, the stronger my Vigor and FM gets, and they can't burn through it.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but are you saying that crits by DoT suppressed by cloak still proc fury? If that's the case, ZOS better not let that slide any longer...0 -
SakuraRush✭✭✭It is overpowered. I slapped it on StamNB, kept Vigor and Healing Cloak up for 15-20sec and it was fully procced by just 2 guys. The more they hit me, the stronger my Vigor and FM gets, and they can't burn through it.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but are you saying that crits by DoT suppressed by cloak still proc fury? If that's the case, ZOS better not let that slide any longer...
They are saying they are healing through the damage. Healing cloak doesn't suppress dots.2 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It is overpowered. I slapped it on StamNB, kept Vigor and Healing Cloak up for 15-20sec and it was fully procced by just 2 guys. The more they hit me, the stronger my Vigor and FM gets, and they can't burn through it.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but are you saying that crits by DoT suppressed by cloak still proc fury? If that's the case, ZOS better not let that slide any longer...
I was talking about the healing morph of Cloak, which well doesn't cloak but heal.1 -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭themaddaedra wrote: »The holy trinity of heavy armor sets that completely overshadows medium and light armor: ravager, fury and seventhlegion Id personally love to see these sets adjusted.
I saw some dude's video where he was hitting 6.7k weapon damage in heavy armor. That's incredibly dumb. Peeps in medium armor can't have it.
This heavy armor meta is utterly disgusting and getting more and more boring every day. I wouldn't mind if these sets were buried into dusty hell.
Heavy passives should be adjusted a lot, this heavy meta is creeping me out of PvP.
Which passive in particular? The one that adds 200 weapon damage? The one that boosts your movement speed? Or the one that reduces block costs? Oh wait, all of those don't even exist.1 -
MaleAmazon✭✭✭✭✭
✭1. Stop with the nerf threads. If zos listened to you wed have the most uninteresting game ever with +10 hp as a bonus on all sets. ZOS - please consider adding a cooldown of 1 month on nerf threads.
2. Any imbalance seems to be built into the fact that you want reliable defence (=heavy) and burst damage (=proc) in pvp. Which isnt likely to change unless you change a ton of things.
3. Even if it changed the forum would be filled with threads demanding the nerf of whatever was the new top set.Edited by MaleAmazon on October 22, 2018 11:21AM0 -
Methariorn✭✭✭The problem is not heavy having a good damage set, but four (ravager, fury, 7th legion, veiled) and be able to run two of them to get huge weapon damage bonus. No good point in run medium when you can get better weapon damage, better healing due to weapon damage and heavy passive, better resist, no penalty in mobility. I hate the nerf here and nerf there thread but something should be done to at last make medium armor a viable option.Methariorn sorc EU server AD
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Cavedog✭✭✭✭✭
✭Heavy armor HAS been over performing in PvP for years, no question. It's not the Fury set exclusively, it's all heavy armor.
Like others in this thread, I've never understood why the heavy armor meta in PvP is so out of balance. Medium and light armor are supposed to be the damage dealers, and heavy armor is supposed to be for tanks and disruptors.....or so it would seem. But that's not how it plays. How it plays is that you should play one of the heavy armor meta's if you want to dominate PvP and anything else people just play for fun.1
