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Dremora Swords and Chests only from trials?

  • zaria
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Scarpion wrote: »
    Low level players should be focusing on grinding first. They don't deserve to have the motifs from arena and trial bosses yet. If they do manage to get those motifs as low levels then well done to them, but any low level who can't acquire them then they don't deserve them. Keep grinding and maybe next year they will be good enough.

    Events that are closed off to only a select portion of the playerbase is never a good idea, no matter how anyone tries to justify it. I've seen many games do it and crumble. While I dona't think this will result in that, if it continues its the wrong path to take and will over time.
    Only thing an low level character has some problems with here is normal trials, most don't want <cp160 in them because they can't swap drops.
    Now it should be easier to organize runs in an guild or at worst buy them or swap with somebody. They will go pretty cheap at the end, people run lots of normal trials to farm gear anyway, i plan on using the event to get more myself.

    Its just an few events in eso who is restricted, the monster set motifs is one who require you to do vet dungeons.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • lagrue
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    Kayira wrote: »
    lagrue wrote: »
    Thankfully I am already a Grand Master, I have moved passed the want to collect motifs. ZOS has made it such an unbearable slog over time, I no longer get excited for new motifs.

    Good luck scouring traders for these chapters which will be very limited in the community, and if sold at all will be ridiculous prices.

    These aren't going to be obtained enough to drop in price in a few weeks like some people here believe. The more common ones absolutely will - but the ones from Trials and Arenas? Those will remain rare, therefore coveted, therefore expensive.

    If the recent Monster Style pages from dungeons are any indicator, rarity will mean they retain their value through and through.

    I don't think so. According to the event page a Dremora motif page is guaranteed in each Dremora plunder skull.
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    Yeah but as you can see in the chart above you can only get the pages from specific activities. Certain pages will be abundant and cheap - but the ones locked behind trials and arena? Those will hold their prices.

    Sword, Chest, Leg and Bows will hold a firm price. The % of the community that actually runs those activities is much lower than anything else as they have the highest barrier to entry for even completing them.
    Edited by lagrue on October 18, 2018 2:48PM
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  • Tasear
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    I suggest if possible doing nAS. It's the easiest normal trial and can be done in 15 mins or so.
  • Juju_beans
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Not very fair for low level players not yet ready to face trials. Also not fair as they will be expensive at guild traders. Should have left it away from trials seeing as trials are classed as end game content. Change this.

    Last year at this time I was a new, low level player. I could not get everything the event offered but the event offered something for all levels. I was able to complete the achievement but had nowhere near the gold to buy the witches house.
    But now, a year later, I can buy that house.

    Be content with what you can achieve at your level. This isn't a one time event that will never come back.
    You'll be higher level next year when the event comes back.
    But if you decide you must have everything the event offers then farm gold and buy from traders.

  • boombazookajd
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    sedi wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    albesca wrote: »
    I'm also wondering about arena bosses, having characters in the lower thirties I'm not sure I can tackle those.

    arena bosses? i can only think of maelstrom and dragonstar arena? if those are the arena bosses, again, thats not very fair for low level players.

    Kvatch Arena?

    No. only MA and DSA
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  • boombazookajd
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    Juju_beans wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Not very fair for low level players not yet ready to face trials. Also not fair as they will be expensive at guild traders. Should have left it away from trials seeing as trials are classed as end game content. Change this.

    Last year at this time I was a new, low level player. I could not get everything the event offered but the event offered something for all levels. I was able to complete the achievement but had nowhere near the gold to buy the witches house.
    But now, a year later, I can buy that house.

    Be content with what you can achieve at your level. This isn't a one time event that will never come back.
    You'll be higher level next year when the event comes back.
    But if you decide you must have everything the event offers then farm gold and buy from traders.

    +1.

    These motifs will be dirt cheap in a week anyway. They are already cheap on the Band auction house. Just enjoy what you can and stop complaining that you can't do EVERYTHING in the game right now.

    There has to be something for everyone. Maybe work on farming something you can use to trade.
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    Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
    Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion

    Scrubs:
    Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
    Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
    Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
    Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter

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  • ZonasArch
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    EvilCroc wrote: »
    New players should not be allowed to get good and new things. Level, struggle, grind etc.

    YEAH, their game should be boring and not rewarding so they think the game sucks and leave us entitled vet players alone until the game dies for lack of player base! YEAAHHH!
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    lagrue wrote: »
    Kayira wrote: »
    lagrue wrote: »
    Thankfully I am already a Grand Master, I have moved passed the want to collect motifs. ZOS has made it such an unbearable slog over time, I no longer get excited for new motifs.

    Good luck scouring traders for these chapters which will be very limited in the community, and if sold at all will be ridiculous prices.

    These aren't going to be obtained enough to drop in price in a few weeks like some people here believe. The more common ones absolutely will - but the ones from Trials and Arenas? Those will remain rare, therefore coveted, therefore expensive.

    If the recent Monster Style pages from dungeons are any indicator, rarity will mean they retain their value through and through.

    I don't think so. According to the event page a Dremora motif page is guaranteed in each Dremora plunder skull.
    .

    Yeah but as you can see in the chart above you can only get the pages from specific activities. Certain pages will be abundant and cheap - but the ones locked behind trials and arena? Those will hold their prices.

    Sword, Chest, Leg and Bows will hold a firm price. The % of the community that actually runs those activities is much lower than anything else as they have the highest barrier to entry for even completing them.

    Agreed. I will be farming MA for $$$.

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  • Lylith
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Not very fair for low level players not yet ready to face trials. Also not fair as they will be expensive at guild traders. Should have left it away from trials seeing as trials are classed as end game content. Change this.
    Kadoin wrote: »
    Scarpion wrote: »
    Low level players should be focusing on grinding first. They don't deserve to have the motifs from arena and trial bosses yet. If they do manage to get those motifs as low levels then well done to them, but any low level who can't acquire them then they don't deserve them. Keep grinding and maybe next year they will be good enough.

    Events that are closed off to only a select portion of the playerbase is never a good idea, no matter how anyone tries to justify it. I've seen many games do it and crumble. While I dona't think this will result in that, if it continues its the wrong path to take and will over time.

    pandering to their upper elites, it would seem.

    keep shitting on your playerbase, zos. you'll end up without one.
  • BuddyAces
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    Lylith wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Not very fair for low level players not yet ready to face trials. Also not fair as they will be expensive at guild traders. Should have left it away from trials seeing as trials are classed as end game content. Change this.
    Kadoin wrote: »
    Scarpion wrote: »
    Low level players should be focusing on grinding first. They don't deserve to have the motifs from arena and trial bosses yet. If they do manage to get those motifs as low levels then well done to them, but any low level who can't acquire them then they don't deserve them. Keep grinding and maybe next year they will be good enough.

    Events that are closed off to only a select portion of the playerbase is never a good idea, no matter how anyone tries to justify it. I've seen many games do it and crumble. While I dona't think this will result in that, if it continues its the wrong path to take and will over time.

    pandering to their upper elites, it would seem.

    keep shitting on your playerbase, zos. you'll end up without one.

    I can guarantee you that by the end of this weekend the prices are going to be so low that a brand new player will be able to afford a trial dropped page after a couple hours of playing the game. The market is going to become flooded. Stop blurting nonsense.
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  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    Lylith wrote: »
    pandering to their upper elites, it would seem.

    keep shitting on your playerbase, zos. you'll end up without one.

    seriously? normal AA and dragonstar are easy to do.
  • PapaWeeb
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    "everyone should get everything, all the time at every level, no skill or experience required"

    They'll be cheap as heck by the end of it dude, and any cp160 player can pug trials. They're easy.
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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    EU groupfinder already broken! Points for efficiency.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • Valrien
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    lagrue wrote: »
    Kayira wrote: »
    lagrue wrote: »
    Thankfully I am already a Grand Master, I have moved passed the want to collect motifs. ZOS has made it such an unbearable slog over time, I no longer get excited for new motifs.

    Good luck scouring traders for these chapters which will be very limited in the community, and if sold at all will be ridiculous prices.

    These aren't going to be obtained enough to drop in price in a few weeks like some people here believe. The more common ones absolutely will - but the ones from Trials and Arenas? Those will remain rare, therefore coveted, therefore expensive.

    If the recent Monster Style pages from dungeons are any indicator, rarity will mean they retain their value through and through.

    I don't think so. According to the event page a Dremora motif page is guaranteed in each Dremora plunder skull.
    .

    Yeah but as you can see in the chart above you can only get the pages from specific activities. Certain pages will be abundant and cheap - but the ones locked behind trials and arena? Those will hold their prices.

    Sword, Chest, Leg and Bows will hold a firm price. The % of the community that actually runs those activities is much lower than anything else as they have the highest barrier to entry for even completing them.

    It's any difficulty though. Basically anyone can do normal AA, normal MA, normal DSA, etc etc.

    Players are just lazy and see "OMG TRIALS WHY" as an easy out to complain and get whatever they want without doing the content.
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    albesca wrote: »
    I'm also wondering about arena bosses, having characters in the lower thirties I'm not sure I can tackle those.

    arena bosses? i can only think of maelstrom and dragonstar arena? if those are the arena bosses, again, thats not very fair for low level players.

    Maelstrom normal is perfectly doable with a sub-level 50. I have friends who use it to level alts.
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  • ZarkingFrued
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    Kind of dumb anyhow. I can beat both on vet, but it's a chunk of time do do even normal
    Edited by ZarkingFrued on October 18, 2018 7:12PM
  • Royaji
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    Wait a few days. Buy them all for 2-5k a piece. They are guaranteed drop, people. Market will be full of motifs by next weekend.
  • Emmagoldman
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    By 14 days it will be beyond cheap, especially with how many people run trials.
  • MooseKnuckles88
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    As for arenas you're on your own, but I see low level players all the time in gear farm normal trials.
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    As for arenas you're on your own, but I see low level players all the time in gear farm normal trials.

    DSA counts as an arena, though Maelstrom is most likely easier and shorter
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Were all the posts saying they drop in normal Trials just ignored?

    So that players could carry on with complaining how “impossible” these are to obtain?
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    Valrien wrote: »
    As for arenas you're on your own, but I see low level players all the time in gear farm normal trials.

    DSA counts as an arena, though Maelstrom is most likely easier and shorter

    You need to complete arena to get skull...
  • Valrien
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    Rake wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    As for arenas you're on your own, but I see low level players all the time in gear farm normal trials.

    DSA counts as an arena, though Maelstrom is most likely easier and shorter

    You need to complete arena to get skull...

    Yes...? And?
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  • Rake
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Rake wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    As for arenas you're on your own, but I see low level players all the time in gear farm normal trials.

    DSA counts as an arena, though Maelstrom is most likely easier and shorter

    You need to complete arena to get skull...

    Yes...? And?

    gl getting it on alts
  • Zephard
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    I think that was the question, each level is considered a boss, and it says an Arena Boss, so wondering if you needed to complete the whole arena, or could cut it short.

    But found what ZOS_GinaBruno said to that queston:
    It's only from the final boss, but can be any difficulty.
    Edited by Zephard on October 18, 2018 8:44PM
  • Rake
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    Zephard wrote: »
    I think that was the question, each level is considered a boss, and it says an Arena Boss, so wondering if you needed to complete the whole arena, or could cut it short.

    just did maelstorm. Only last chest drop gold skull
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    Rake wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Rake wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    As for arenas you're on your own, but I see low level players all the time in gear farm normal trials.

    DSA counts as an arena, though Maelstrom is most likely easier and shorter

    You need to complete arena to get skull...

    Yes...? And?

    gl getting it on alts

    Que the nMA on a lvl 3 with one skill video. Oh, there it is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axsgf6Ei_lU&amp;ebc=ANyPxKpaeQGwgid7fVroRdpM4dL8BkEQgDQvvZ5VjEfJYs3MuxHM928Nx-u7l63pl2Jlzx3HY62u
  • Rake
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    Royaji wrote: »
    Rake wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Rake wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    As for arenas you're on your own, but I see low level players all the time in gear farm normal trials.

    DSA counts as an arena, though Maelstrom is most likely easier and shorter

    You need to complete arena to get skull...

    Yes...? And?

    gl getting it on alts

    Que the nMA on a lvl 3 with one skill video. Oh, there it is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axsgf6Ei_lU&amp;ebc=ANyPxKpaeQGwgid7fVroRdpM4dL8BkEQgDQvvZ5VjEfJYs3MuxHM928Nx-u7l63pl2Jlzx3HY62u

    Its time consuming. Boring.
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    albesca wrote: »
    I'm also wondering about arena bosses, having characters in the lower thirties I'm not sure I can tackle those.

    arena bosses? i can only think of maelstrom and dragonstar arena? if those are the arena bosses, again, thats not very fair for low level players.

    You can complete nMA with lv 3 character naked.
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    Rake wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    Rake wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Rake wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    As for arenas you're on your own, but I see low level players all the time in gear farm normal trials.

    DSA counts as an arena, though Maelstrom is most likely easier and shorter

    You need to complete arena to get skull...

    Yes...? And?

    gl getting it on alts

    Que the nMA on a lvl 3 with one skill video. Oh, there it is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axsgf6Ei_lU&amp;ebc=ANyPxKpaeQGwgid7fVroRdpM4dL8BkEQgDQvvZ5VjEfJYs3MuxHM928Nx-u7l63pl2Jlzx3HY62u

    Its time consuming. Boring.

    And? Still shorter than nDSA with similar levels. Only longer if you're getting carried by CP characters.
    And yes many event activities are boring, you lack a point to make.
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