The Summerset model takes a lot from the Daggerfall/Oblivion appearance.
But as both the Summerset model and the crate statue were both approved, then I feel it's apparent that Bethesda backs the notion that Daedric Princes do not have a 'default' physical form. Nocturnal technically doesn't even have a default gender.

The statue merely overemphasizes the feminine aspect. But Nocturnal itself would not be concerned with the aesthetic standards of mortals. Particularly during the unplanned intervention seen in the Chapter.

max_only wrote: »

I’m ignoring all the posters who insist she must have pale skin to be a “better” representation.

My problem is that she isn’t UNIQUE.
A unique character model.
How many other characters are using the Velidreth model?
How many other characters are using the Thorvokun model?
How many other characters are using the Hircine model?

Unique. One of a kind. How is that hard to grasp for the dissenters in this thread?

The people who are whining about her being "tanned" have made me not care at all about this issue.

I honestly just wish they gave her a nicer looking dress. Nocturnal usually looks fairly human in her depictions so I don't have a problem with her not looking monstrous like Molag Bal.

cheap cosplayer.

I wasn't impressed with her graphic either. The other princes were noticeably more detailed and cool looking, which is weird considering she was the main antagonist.

Nocturnal looks a poor cosplay attempt

Acrolas wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

Explain orc and redguard armor they went back and did that

"This “no change” policy has been in effect since the Redguard Female Armor Debacle of 2015."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5430473#Comment_5430473

Nocturnal isn't a motif though. She's an NPC. Nobody would care if her model was changed because it doesn't affect their character.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

Explain orc and redguard armor they went back and did that

"This “no change” policy has been in effect since the Redguard Female Armor Debacle of 2015."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5430473#Comment_5430473

Nocturnal isn't a motif though. She's an NPC. Nobody would care if her model was changed because it doesn't affect their character.

To be fair, there is a version of her costume that was sold to players. Though, honestly, the biggest issue with Nocturnal is simply a texture resolution issue. She gets blown up all over the place at the end of the questline, and here model and textures were not designed to scale that large on the screen.

Ultimately, this isn't even a, "she looks cheap," problem, it's that her textures are too low res for the way she was used.

I think it could be solved with a new texture pass for when she's covering the screen, and that'd fix it.

ArchMikem wrote: »

Shraar wrote: »

I recently finished that quest and while she doesn't really compare to Mephala's unique model, I saw nothing wrong with her model. She's even wearing the same dress she did in Skyrim, which I liked. What was the problem?

People grew expectations that fell short hard. Molag Bal has a unique model, Mephala has a unique model, Vile has a unique model. Nocturnal ended up being a standard Redguard Female wearing the very Costume released in the Crown Store. I'm not complaining much but I do understand where people are coming from.

You summed up the issue well. Any player could customize a character that looks fancier/better/more like a Deity than the finished product.

Flynch wrote: »

The pics remind me of an amateur 2004 Poser model. But that may just be down to the lighting in them tbf.

agreed

Ncoturnal is depicted in an accurate lore way.

"In a different vein, one of the best known of the Daedra Princes is named Nocturnal, who is often portrayed as
a beautiful dark woman holding two black crows."

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/ghraewaj-and-harpies

And I'm glad that she looks just this way. Daedra are all about change, so they all should be different. Some look like fantastic creatures, other just like a girl from Sentinel.

I'm surprised that a AAA operation would leave such an amateurish stain on an otherwise high quality release. It sticks out like a pixelated mustache on a gift shop print of the Mona Lisa.

The no changes after release policy just makes their own work look terrible. It's a bizarre thing to do in a game that receives constant updates. How about a no nerfs after nerfmire policy as well?

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Ncoturnal is depicted in an accurate lore way.

"In a different vein, one of the best known of the Daedra Princes is named Nocturnal, who is often portrayed as
a beautiful dark woman holding two black crows."

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/ghraewaj-and-harpies

And I'm glad that she looks just this way. Daedra are all about change, so they all should be different. Some look like fantastic creatures, other just like a girl from Sentinel.

Except A. She's not beautiful, and B. She's not holding two black crows.

its lazy and she just looks like a human, not unique at all. i also don't really feel like the voice suits the character i know.

when i first saw her my reaction was:

"why tf is she just a big redguard?"

Claudman wrote: »

I believe they used the Redguard race for Nocturnal during the quest opposed to giving her a custom race with an entirely new mesh. Honestly, I think they should've gave her a unique race and model like they did with Clavicus Vile or Mephala. Her animations also appeared rather stiff compared to the other animations in the expansion...Her animations generally weren't loose or fluid, like that awesome Factotum crossbow-pin and ninja-attack I love so much.

She has an awkward tpose in some scenes.