Poison DK DPS viable?

Zypher128 · October 2018

I was working on a build and have been very on and off that it will actually work as well as I want it to. basically I was going to run the standard dps setup of DW and bow, but i didnt know if the poison buffs from DK make using all the bow skills worth it or if I should go a different route. I want to be able to keep up in end game content and was hoping to get something in mind before the holiday event started with xp boosts so i could hit the ground running.

proposed setup

Redguard
Serpent stone
Vampire

bar 1 - Bow

1 Razor caltrops
2 endless hail
3 acid spray
4 poison injection
5 lethal arrow
U ballista

bar 2 - DW

1 deadly cloak
2 noxious breath
3 venomous claw
4 blood craze
5 resolving vigor
U flawless DB

Gear is really in the air - mostly looking at a pre trial set to be able to farm trials gear with

Monster set - Velidreth
5pc vipers sting
5pc plague slinger

My concern is that DK mostly benefits bow skills which isnt known to be the highest dps, so im concerned that this might be a flop. thoughts? criticisms? Advice?

Kanar · October 2018

Bow/bow will get pretty good stam discount in murkmire.
If you're going DW/bow I wouldn't use lethal arrow. If you take that out than you have pretty much the normal assortment of skills.
Proc sets aren't very good damage. Velidreth is disease not poison.

What's your goal? To really push the poison theme or just to make an effective stamDK?

Joxer61 · October 2018

anything is "viable" go nuts!!

Masel · October 2018

https://youtu.be/6C1J8VPn7mk

Zypher128 · October 2018

Kanar - my goal is to build an effective end game dps, looking through skills and other builds poison seemed to be decent, as from what i understand each source of poison stacks, so the thought was to apply ALL THE DOTS with the bow running into a fight and then switch to dw and rotate from there. I know Velidreth is disease, I dont think there is a poison monster set. Watching that vid from masel92 I would think Selene, but I thought that only procs off melee? saying that Vel has a higher proc chance (20 vs 15) and vel does more total damage? Selene 12k vel 10.3k x 3 spores. I dont really like the plague slinger as i need to take damage to proc and as a dps i should mostly stay out of the way, but thought that vipers sting would keep up the poison dot when I start in on the melee rotation.

John_Falstaff · October 2018

@Zypher128 , Spawn of Mephala monster helm set deals poison damage, though I'm not sure how it performs against other sets - never got around to properly test it, and it only procs with heavy attack, so it doesn't seem that good outside of heavy attack builds. Selene may underperform next patch (I don't think it performed well enough until the moment Relequen began to proc it, and now it will stop doing it).

El_Borracho · October 2018

@Zypher128 Stormfist procs off of all damage and gives stamina recovery. Downside is a mobile boss can run away from its main damage (fist closing). I run this over Selene's on my stam DK. I've heard Spawn of Mephala is effective in PVP, never seen it run in PVE.

Have you considered running Morag Tong? And perhaps pair it with, I can't believe I am saying this, but Poisonous Serpent? In looking at that set, it doesn't have a cooldown where Plague Slinger's cooldown is awfully long and Viper's Sting is a DOT of 6400 over 4 seconds. I know Poisonous Serpent is a proc damage, but its a 50% chance, 3400 damage, and no cooldown. Morag Tong will buff all of your poison attacks on top of this.

Again, this is just me thinking out loud. Never run either any of these sets

MashmalloMan · October 2018

@Zypher128 Check out https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5530355#Comment_5530355 by @Maesel92. With the next update, poison skills get 25% cost reduction. Selene and velidreth parse about the same DPS with Selene in pve coming slightly ahead single target (Won't proc off of Relequen anymore). I like Velidreth better for theme purposes and the 1 pc stat bonus, wep dmg. Wep dmg beats stam and It also has cleave dmg where selenes doesn't. On some bosses the 3 spores from velidreth can hit 3x on the same boss.

With the build and link I commented. You can use arrow spray back bar or take it out, it's not a huge dps difference at all and lengthens your rotation. It's up to you what you enjoy.

Kanar · October 2018

Zypher128 wrote: »

Kanar - my goal is to build an effective end game dps, looking through skills and other builds poison seemed to be decent, as from what i understand each source of poison stacks, so the thought was to apply ALL THE DOTS with the bow running into a fight and then switch to dw and rotate from there. I know Velidreth is disease, I dont think there is a poison monster set. Watching that vid from masel92 I would think Selene, but I thought that only procs off melee? saying that Vel has a higher proc chance (20 vs 15) and vel does more total damage? Selene 12k vel 10.3k x 3 spores. I dont really like the plague slinger as i need to take damage to proc and as a dps i should mostly stay out of the way, but thought that vipers sting would keep up the poison dot when I start in on the melee rotation.

Well then skip the poison theme. Monster set depends on what you need. Imo Selene is not very good now that Relequen is nerfed.

If you are any race but redguard then you will need sustain help. Stormfist is perfect for this and should let you run blue food with absorb stam glyph. Stormfist does more DPS than Selene on a dk, I had almost 1.6k in the video in masel's thread. Further, it procs concussed which gives minor vulnerability. Plus it's aoe and ranged. Just overall way better than Selene as long as that extra 1pc sustain is useful.

If you're redguard you could try Selene or veli, or use stormfist and drop the absorb stam glyph for a disease glyph.