For serious. There is absolutely nothing required in PvP (for PvEers) that creates the equivalent of what Masters/Asylum/Maelstrom/Black Rose weapons require of PvPers. Before anyone pipes up about the whole "but I hafta level mah War Horn/Purge/Caltrops!!! It's hard!!!", I just built a PvE healer for the first time and took it into Cyrodil to get my needed skills, expecting it to be a long drag like the PvEers are always talking about. I was pleasantly surprised to see if only took me a little over an hour of non-intensive play (didn't even follow the zerg train, just a two person team hitting outlying objectives) to get what I needed. Last night, I took a group into VDSA for a Masters resto or destro. Not even remotely the same. Not even a little bit. Granted, the place was so laggy and buggy, it actually felt like I was caught in a PvP zerg during prime time in Vivec and it made me feel more at home, but even in spite of the heartwarmingly familiar brokenness and near unplayability, it was still madness inducing.


You can even make the weapons cost so much, it makes our eyes bleed to read the number. Make them cost millions of AP, even into the tens of millions. I would be fine with that. Just something that lets us stay in our beloved killing grounds more often.

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For all the pve players who try to use the caltrops, Vigor, warhorn argument, here’s my counter arguement: dungeons. Pvprs are forced to do pve if they want to get monster helms, certain sets, and skill points. Who cares if you were forced to pvp for 2 hrs? Some pvp players are forced to do Dungeons for days just for a certain set in the correct trait! Not only that but monster helms are only dropped in dungeons which forces us to do that too! Not to mention we still have to undaunted dailies for keys for a chance to get a shoulder piece.