Cyrodiil scout mission AP reward

mague · October 2018

Hi,

as many i was thinking about earning Caltrops. I am a PvE&RP player and Caltrops is like Endless Hail or Winter's Revenge a ranged ground DoT. Its not like i need it to survive but it would fit a DW/DW build. It is not an absolute must have, not more need then a certain Motif on the chest to be honest. However, fashion is endgame they say..

I did a google and found different solutions. However, leeching AP near battles is not my style. Questing is a certain death for me. And i am really bad at PvP. I found the scouting board

It allows me to earn AP without interrupting others game or leeching AP. I startet with a stack of invis potions and five pieces Night SIlence with invigorating trait. It really works. I just died once because a spider removed my sneak and a second time from an overland sniper because i was close to home and used the mount.

So far so good and not without fun. But 500 AP for a mission i have to run both ways because i cant call back to the tower ? Weekdays one mission is almost all my gaming time. It ll take months to reach Assault 7. Shouldnt it rather be 5000 AP if i get home without dying ? I guess the real PVPers dont give much about the scouting missions ?

Beardimus · October 2018

No, upgrading the AP for the easiest quest is not going to happen, heck you don't get 5k for capturing an Elder Scroll!!

There are better ways. Wall repairs are your friend. Go to a siege merchant, buy stone repairs (or wood and do doors) and travel to a friendly keep. Run around the inside of the outter walls and repair them all.

If you go in a delve first and kill a boss you get a bonus 20% AP too.

That's the least PVP way to get AP but should help you out.

FloppyTouch · October 2018

Well daily rewards giving ap now and pvp players do use these quest to get ahead in emp at the start of a campaign. As for someone like me who does not have any of these quest it's already hard for me to ever get emp so I'm against them having higher payouts.

mague · October 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

There are better ways. Wall repairs are your friend. Go to a siege merchant, buy stone repairs (or wood and do doors) and travel to a friendly keep. Run around the inside of the outter walls and repair them all.

Ok, thats another option. Delves and quest targets are all camped by snipers. Repair sounds good.

Beardimus · October 2018

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Well daily rewards giving ap now and pvp players do use these quest to get ahead in emp at the start of a campaign. As for someone like me who does not have any of these quest it's already hard for me to ever get emp so I'm against them having higher payouts.

Why don't you have the quests @FloppyTouch there was a bug an age ago but not heard of that for a while now.

Regardless it shouldn't deter you from Emp. Even with the buff they don't amount to an untouchable amount.

FloppyTouch · October 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Well daily rewards giving ap now and pvp players do use these quest to get ahead in emp at the start of a campaign. As for someone like me who does not have any of these quest it's already hard for me to ever get emp so I'm against them having higher payouts.

Why don't you have the quests @FloppyTouch there was a bug an age ago but not heard of that for a while now.

Regardless it shouldn't deter you from Emp. Even with the buff they don't amount to an untouchable amount.

I have the bug from PC it transfer over to xb with me I sent in tons of tickets they cant fix it.

The last time I tried for emp as soon as it flipped and the scores went up for emp I was 6k ap behind and it was very hard to catch up. Only way I can do it is to go to a dead campaign and have friends push for me. I dont have the drive for it anymore now with some players on xb that account share and have millions of ap in just one day.

Beardimus · October 2018

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Well daily rewards giving ap now and pvp players do use these quest to get ahead in emp at the start of a campaign. As for someone like me who does not have any of these quest it's already hard for me to ever get emp so I'm against them having higher payouts.

Why don't you have the quests @FloppyTouch there was a bug an age ago but not heard of that for a while now.

Regardless it shouldn't deter you from Emp. Even with the buff they don't amount to an untouchable amount.

I have the bug from PC it transfer over to xb with me I sent in tons of tickets they cant fix it.

The last time I tried for emp as soon as it flipped and the scores went up for emp I was 6k ap behind and it was very hard to catch up. Only way I can do it is to go to a dead campaign and have friends push for me. I dont have the drive for it anymore now with some players on xb that account share and have millions of ap in just one day.

Damn dude that sucks, that's a proper glitch.

Agreed on the millions of AP a day guys, we see a fair amount of boosting / farming happen.

Anyway OP sorry we digress, wall repairs are your answer I think if you want to avoid combat totally.

mague · October 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

Anyway OP sorry we digress, wall repairs are your answer I think if you want to avoid combat totally.

No problem, one last question. Do i get AP when the campaign ends ?

Beardimus · October 2018

mague wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Anyway OP sorry we digress, wall repairs are your answer I think if you want to avoid combat totally.

No problem, one last question. Do i get AP when the campaign ends ?

No, I'm afraid not. On a 30 day campaign (Set as home) you do get 50 transmute crystals and other rewards depending on alliance performance - gold, wall repairs, set jewelry if you rank high

TheUrbanWizard · October 2018

Meh just strap some inpen on, lfg or follow a group, and don’t be afraid of dying. You’ll get vigor and caltrops I’m no time

Edit: you might even get a taste for it..

mague · October 2018

TheUrbanWizard wrote: »

Meh just strap some inpen on, lfg or follow a group, and don’t be afraid of dying. You’ll get vigor and caltrops I’m no time

Edit: you might even get a taste for it..

I tried it. Nah... the biggest difference between vP and vE ist that vE does not send bad vibes back. To much aggression there. Not all, but some. I ll try and waste some gold on the repair. Sounds as good/bad as solo leveling undauted

Beardimus · October 2018

mague wrote: »

TheUrbanWizard wrote: »

Meh just strap some inpen on, lfg or follow a group, and don’t be afraid of dying. You’ll get vigor and caltrops I’m no time

Edit: you might even get a taste for it..

I tried it. Nah... the biggest difference between vP and vE ist that vE does not send bad vibes back. To much aggression there. Not all, but some. I ll try and waste some gold on the repair. Sounds as good/bad as solo leveling undauted

Are you on PC? As PC does seem to get more 'chat' going on. I think as on console its alot harder to ineract with enemy players, sure if you have a big moment theres the odd message over time.

If you mean zone chat, turn it off.

As following a group, healing them - or being in a keep as it flips is the quickest way on a busy campaign. Or running BattleGrounds - thats 7k for 15 mins even if your team loses.

But yes for zero combat wall repairs are the one! There are the PVE quest towns too - but best do those in quiet times as gankers can go there.

Hurtfan · October 2018

Quests are good for AP, also you can defend too. Figure out what keeps are going to get hit, which you can normally do in zone chat, and go defend. I do this a lot when I'm solo, never get ganked this way lol

Go from keep to keep defending and you can earn a lot of AP that way. Of course taking keeps is where the AP is at but I've spent whole PvP sessions just defending and earned plenty of AP that way. Even buying siege for defense.

I never understood the "AP leeching", so what, we're on the same team. Leech away for all I care.

Neoauspex · October 2018

Buy some of siege and take part in a big keep battle, defensive or offensive. A. good AP, B. don't give up on PvP until you try the thing that the entire game was designed for.

firedrgn · October 2018

mague wrote: »

Hi,

as many i was thinking about earning Caltrops. I am a PvE&RP player and Caltrops is like Endless Hail or Winter's Revenge a ranged ground DoT. Its not like i need it to survive but it would fit a DW/DW build. It is not an absolute must have, not more need then a certain Motif on the chest to be honest. However, fashion is endgame they say..

I did a google and found different solutions. However, leeching AP near battles is not my style. Questing is a certain death for me. And i am really bad at PvP. I found the scouting board It allows me to earn AP without interrupting others game or leeching AP. I startet with a stack of invis potions and five pieces Night SIlence with invigorating trait. It really works. I just died once because a spider removed my sneak and a second time from an overland sniper because i was close to home and used the mount.

So far so good and not without fun. But 500 AP for a mission i have to run both ways because i cant call back to the tower ? Weekdays one mission is almost all my gaming time. It ll take months to reach Assault 7. Shouldnt it rather be 5000 AP if i get home without dying ? I guess the real PVPers dont give much about the scouting missions ?

Back bar a resto staff an djust heal anyone fighting. Just show up at a keep and heal ...anywhere u can just heal.

Shawn_PT · October 2018

You don't have to run two ways. Run in, scout, allow yourself to be killed by the NPCs in the area. Respawn at the home keep. Turn in. Repeat.

Cronopoly · October 2018

mague wrote: »

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Early on before I got the bug for ESO's PVP I healed. Strapped on a Resto Staff , some Julianos / Magus /Sorcerer gear and healed behind the scenes in PVP battles. Died all the time, but was easily the fastest way for a non frontline fighter to get AP.

I didn't consider it pure leeching as it was helping those overextending fools sometimes well past their living point as they should have died were I not there.

PERK - While Healing you get AP to buy the Repair stones for Keeps so you don't have to go broke at all buying them with your Gold. And of course each successful repair you get additional AP as well to...buy more Stones.

P.S. You get two campains, a Home and a Guest campaign. If the Home campaign walls are already repaired, port over to another campaign to check their walls.

Katahdin · October 2018

The scout quest is braindead easy most of the time. Just run to the objective, hit F then blood port on the mobs. It should not be worth huge amounts of AP.

mague wrote: »

Ok, thats another option. Delves and quest targets are all camped by snipers. Repair sounds good.

Dont know what platform you're on but I rarely see anyone in a delve, let alone anyone camping them for pvp

mague · October 2018

Thanks for all the answers.

Repair works very well. Defense "sucked" me in twice. One win and one respawn

My gaming cube was able to handle most of it. But framerate drops quite some

I bought some oil and a Balista, because when they attack i am not gonna hide in the shadows.

At this rate i will be done with Caltrops tonight. Vigor morphed already.

I dont get the rules. Maybe i am watching the new campaign for a while. How is it possible that a fortress turns without a fight ? It just reloads the screen and suddenly the castle i am at is blue on the map ???

Another thing is that it sometimes teleports me as if the game tries to catch up a lag. Is this due to the load in Cyrodiil and the game tries to sync ?