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ZOS ITS time to adjust bleed builds!!!
THE_BIG_BOSS
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They are broken OP right now and next Patch will BE Horror for any shield User.
Too cheap
So easy to apply
Stacks and does insane unmitigable damage per Second
Ignores resistances(??????)
Seriously why in the hell does IT ignores resistances???
Cant purge it cause ITS sooo easy and cheap to Re apply
Too cheap
So easy to apply
Stacks and does insane unmitigable damage per Second
Ignores resistances(??????)
Seriously why in the hell does IT ignores resistances???
Cant purge it cause ITS sooo easy and cheap to Re apply
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Savos_Saren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭90% of the OP's threads are asking for nerfs.Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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Thogard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Isn’t he a player in one of the higher end PC EU small scale guilds?
Or was I being trolled?
I can never tell with those euros. Their sarcasm is just too thick for me to glean meaning from.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp9 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Have you tried not being made of blood? Seems like a huge build oversight on your part, bloodbag is so eight metas ago.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
Grand High Illustrious Mid-Tier PvP/PvE Bussmunster10 -
Jjitsuboy98✭✭✭✭THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »They are broken OP right now and next Patch will BE Horror for any shield User.
Too cheap
So easy to apply
Stacks and does insane unmitigable damage per Second
Ignores resistances(??????)
Seriously why in the hell does IT ignores resistances???
Cant purge it cause ITS sooo easy and cheap to Re apply
You suck at PVP.8 -
Actually_Goku✭✭✭✭It is annoying having capped resistances, not slotting a purge, and yet seeing in my death recap I had 6k bleeds on me, and yet Dawnbreakers only around 3k.
At the very least, make the animation more obvious.Edited by Actually_Goku on October 15, 2018 5:11AM4 -
Att1Tude✭✭✭Nevermind.Edited by Att1Tude on October 15, 2018 5:36AMPC-EU
How-Much-Is-The-Fish Stamsorc
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Siohwenoeht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I hear earthgore helps against bleeds......."It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard2 -
MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No such thing as bleed builds considering there's only one reliable bleed ability in the game. On top of that, the few bleed based sets in the game(only 4) are all terrible with the exception of the master weapons which are already getting nerfed...
This is obviously a l2p issue."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
―Ulrich Leland, 3E 4334 -
Att1Tude✭✭✭No such thing as bleed builds considering there's only one reliable bleed ability in the game. On top of that, the few bleed based sets in the game(only 4) are all terrible with the exception of the master weapons which are already getting nerfed...
This is obviously a l2p issue.
The guy plays DK himself.PC-EU
How-Much-Is-The-Fish Stamsorc
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jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No such thing as bleed builds considering there's only one reliable bleed ability in the game. On top of that, the few bleed based sets in the game(only 4) are all terrible with the exception of the master weapons which are already getting nerfed...
This is obviously a l2p issue.
There are technically 3, since Twin Blade and Blunt & Heavy Weapons both have a bleed proc when you equip axes. These are the bleeds that people talk about specifically, as they are free and deal an insane amount of damage, as much as an actual dot.2 -
StaticWave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Bleeds were designed to combat high resist tank players, hence ignoring physical resistance. Ironically, the current implementation hurts squishier targets more, because it scales off of your max stamina/weapon dmg. This means when fighting 2 opponents with different hp, they equally take the same amount of bleed dmg, but the one with less hp will always die first. How bleeds should have been implemented, is by scaling off of your target's max hp and ignoring physical resistance. For example, a rending slash bleed tick with a 4% bleed dmg will do 1600 dmg on a 40k hp player and 800 dmg on a 20k player. This will make sure that higher hp players take more dmg, while lesser hp ones take less.Edited by StaticWave on October 17, 2018 6:09AM4 -
Asmael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Isn’t he a player in one of the higher end PC EU small scale guilds?
Or was I being trolled?
I can never tell with those euros. Their sarcasm is just too thick for me to glean meaning from.
Can't be the same one. BIG BOSS doesn't do BGs, never plays anything but a weird dk build, and most importantly...
HE HAS TO TYPE EVERYTHING WITH CAPS ALL THE TIME.PC EU - Zahraji of the Void, aka "Kitty", the fluffiest salmon genocider in town.
Poke @AsmaeI (last letter is uppercase "i") on PC EU or Asmael#9325 on Discord and receive a meow today.1 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭So shields were nerfed so now is the shield stacking community gonna go to the forums and ask for anything that works against shields to be nerfed, effectively rolling back the shield nerf? Good job!!1 -
Skoomah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There are so many counters to bleeds.
Speed - Can you stack the dots fast enough as opponent speeds away?
LOS - Can you stack the dots fast enough as the opponent turns the tree or rock?
Healing - Is your dot stacking potent enough to outheal the opponents passive and burst heals?
Damage - Is your dot stacking potent enough to out damage the opponent’s direct damage burst combo?
Purge / Cloak - Did you do enough damage before the opponent cleansed all your dots? Did you apply enough damage before 2/5 of the PvP population cloaked, cleansed, healed to full and didnt take dot damage?
Learn to play, seriously. Just because you suck at pvp doesn’t mean you should go online and nerf someone else’s playstyle.Edited by Skoomah on October 17, 2018 12:26PM3 -
Reistr_the_Unbroken✭✭✭✭✭
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I will tell you two words that many people have said to me because I didn’t like Cyrodil.THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »They are broken OP right now and next Patch will BE Horror for any shield User.
Too cheap
So easy to apply
Stacks and does insane unmitigable damage per Second
Ignores resistances(??????)
Seriously why in the hell does IT ignores resistances???
Cant purge it cause ITS sooo easy and cheap to Re apply
Get. Gud.
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pod88kk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »run troll king
I started running it recently & it shows 3.2k health recovery on the character sheet before I heal myself. I love it
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Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Savos_Saren wrote: »90% of the OP's threads are asking for nerfs.
I noticed, smh. How can it be Op when I know this would be really strange to do but maybe, just maybe, make a dw build yourself. Because you are asking them to nerf you, if you really think about it. So get to some easy grinding and enjoy~
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ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭There are so many counters to bleeds.
Speed - Can you stack the dots fast enough as opponent speeds away?
LOS - Can you stack the dots fast enough as the opponent turns the tree or rock?
Healing - Is your dot stacking potent enough to outheal the opponents passive and burst heals?
Damage - Is your dot stacking potent enough to out damage the opponent’s direct damage burst combo?
Purge / Cloak - Did you do enough damage before the opponent cleansed all your dots? Did you apply enough damage before 2/5 of the PvP population cloaked, cleansed, healed to full and didnt take dot damage?
Learn to play, seriously. Just because you suck at pvp doesn’t mean you should go online and nerf someone else’s playstyle.
By your logic sloads is fine. Bleeds deal more damage than it, are easier to apply and on more targets. The only thing they don't do is g through shields, which means little now that bleeds can crit on shields to make them melt.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
Best houseknight EU.1 -
Skoomah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I didn’t mention Sloads. Why are you changing the subject? Stay on point and actually reply to the points in my post. Do you refute any of those options to counter bleeds?2 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I didn’t mention Sloads. Why are you changing the subject? Stay on point and actually reply to the points in my post. Do you refute any of those options to counter bleeds?
I am not changing the subject, I am mentioning your *** logic with a counterexample.Bleeds ignore resists. That is a massive and very strong component that has no downsides to it, unlike say . It deals a lot of damage very easily, and with a low cost
Speed - Can you stack the dots fast enough as opponent speeds away? You can do the same to everything, not a bleed counter.
LOS - Can you stack the dots fast enough as the opponent turns the tree or rock? You can do the same to everything, not a bleed counter.
Healing - Is your dot stacking potent enough to outheal the opponents passive and burst heals? You can do the same to everything, not a bleed counter.
Damage - Is your dot stacking potent enough to out damage the opponent’s direct damage burst combo? You can attempt to out damage before they damage you someone with everything, not a bleed counter, and infact literally the basis of combat.
Purge / Cloak - Did you do enough damage before the opponent cleansed all your dots? Did you apply enough damage before 2/5 of the PvP population cloaked, cleansed, healed to full and didnt take dot damage? You can do the same to every dot, not a bleed counter. Also, that leaves 6/10 classes completely susceptible to the damage.
So explain to me why on earth bleeds deserve such a strong extra component (ignoring resistances) without any more downsides than another dot. There isn't any. Your so called counters are the exact same as the counters for sloads (bar the cloak break "bug") and yet that was not balanced and bleeds are.
Your argument to counter bleeds is the same as "just pressure" is a counter for shields. It isn't. And from what I have seen, you didn't like shields. So why now are you defending another obviously overpowered concept (thought of as OP by many of the good players I know) I do wonder.
Hmm?
It couldn't possibly be because you clutch of them no...?Edited by ak_pvp on October 18, 2018 9:20PMMagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
Best houseknight EU.3
