Really...why does it take 6 months to fully leveling riding?

Bouldercleave · October 2018

Simple solution to this:

You can train each of the lines once per day. Cuts the 6 months down to 60 days and still keeps it from being TOO easy.

ck37090 · October 2018

AlnilamE wrote: »

ck37090 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

ck37090 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

They want you playing the game for a long time. If you got everything you wanted quickly youd get bored and drop it a few months in.

Also lay off the devs, you sound like a rebellious child.

what else in this game takes 6 months to level?

9 trait crafting on every thing takes a little over a year if you are very diligent.

But yeah, in terms of stuff you use everyday, mount training is an outlier.

yeah...crafting does take time...but you have options with that...you can train certain things you want most....you can hire other crafters to make stuff...you can buy from guild traders...you can level different things on different characters...you have lots of viable options with that.

Honestly, outside of PvP, once you get 30 speed on your mount, everything else can take its time. I'm almost done leveling riding fully on my stam warden. He is still level 30. I'm going to be making a stamplar as soon as I figure out a name for them. And then I'll train riding on them as well. I've done it on every character and I've never paid for a riding lesson (though I'm not unhappy when I get one in the free crates). As others have said, get Rapid Maneuvres as soon as you are level 10 and that will help a lot with speed.

I agree..

Zeromaz wrote: »

ck37090 wrote: »

Zeromaz wrote: »

There is a really simple reason for this and its right in front of everyone’s faces. They want you to log in every day

lol...and you really think that? ...content...daily prizes...enjoyable things are what make people log in everyday...they do this to make money by overcharging riding lessons in the overpriced crown store...that is why they do it...lets just say you have 12 characters...that takes at least 20 minutes if you want to spend the time to train all 12 characters in riding...you think that type of thing is what people like and they keep coming back to? That is what makes people play this game? You think that is what ZOS wants is for people to log in and train riding? Ok...you sure do have things figured out.

You obviously didn’t play before crown store or daily rewards.... or you’re just not smart

I beta tested the game, I played for a little after launch, I stopped playing because of all the issues the game had...I started playing again fairly recently...the game is much improved compared to it's former self but still has its issues (one of those things being the subject of this post)....However, what does that have to do with anything? Just because it was a worse design during beta and launch doesn't make it a good design now....I'm all for supporting this game and paying for the game, content and a subscription...but what they are doing in the crown store is just ridiculous and riding is linked to it...I'm just shocked that people are so foolish to support that aspect of this game. You can buy the basic game for $10 and have everything that is included with that but they will charge you $180 if you want to level up your riding skill on one character to max? ...and idiots are supporting them on that? Support them for their game and content and things that are worth supporting them on...not on that crap (and that goes for all that crap in the crown store)...do you realize that us as consumers dictate the direction this game goes? If nobody paid for crowns to buy the extremely overpriced things they offer in the crown store they would adjust it...you might actually get some value for your money...but society is full of fools and they are perfectly willing to take advantage of them.

TheShadowScout · October 2018

ck37090 wrote: »

...why does it take 6 months to fully leveling riding?

To make you spend crowns on it.
So ZOS can make more profit from ESO.
Duh.
Welcome to capitalism!

On the bright side... without ZOS being greedy for ESO profits, and all the other game companies like that, all we'd get to play would be Tetris.

Also, be happy they changed the thing to riding training. At launch, you had to feed each mount seperately, for each character. So if you upgraded to a shiny new black horse after training the brown one... you had to start feeding it all over again. If you bought a new brown horse on your alt, it was not the brown horse you fed on your main, but a newly raised brown horse you -still- had to feed up to spec all over again. And so on... it -really- is much better now... whewre you can train once, and then stop worrying about it.

O_LYKOS · October 2018

Something to level and work towards I guess. Instead of being able to level everything in one day.

SHADOW2KK · October 2018

Amazing, you would have loved the ancient days of the game OP, but others have already mentioned why.

pdblake · October 2018

If you don't feed it every day it should get slower and lose stamina and drop a bag space!

Ok, I'm leaving, lol

pdblake · October 2018

Geekgirl wrote: »

I still argue that the saner choice is each *mount* is trained account-wide.

Example: I own the Christmas horse and the Psijic horse. I spend the next month upgrading speed on the Christmas horse. The Christmas horse now has 30 speed for EVERY character but the Psijic horse does not.

When The game launched different horses were stronger and had different perks; some were faster, some carried more, some had better stamina. I don’t see why we can’t go back to that and train the horses individually versus each character individually.

Actually this sounds pretty good for both player and ZOS.

SHADOW2KK · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

If you don't feed it every day it should get slower and lose stamina and drop a bag space!

Ok, I'm leaving, lol

LOL, brave words sir, love it

Merlin13KAGL · October 2018

You don't need a capped mount to PvP. It helps, but it's not the absolute requirement some make it out to be.

You'll arrive at the fight a little later (you're probably not ready to front line, anyway, at that point), you'll have to ride a little more cautiously (Don't expect to hold sprint the entire time.) And inventory capacity is a non-issue, since there's nothing to loot anyway.

Throw on rapids, be a little more defensive, and level your mount as you grab shards, books, skills, and gear.

It's really not that big of a deal.

pdblake · October 2018

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

If you don't feed it every day it should get slower and lose stamina and drop a bag space!

Ok, I'm leaving, lol

LOL, brave words sir, love it

I was going to add, if it gets to zero then the next day it's dead and you have to buy it again for crowns, but thought I might be pushing my luck with that one.

Malborn66 · October 2018

Surely, the answer to this is because you can pay Crowns to shortcut the process.

Why would ZOS change such an earner?

Iselin · October 2018

TheShadowScout wrote: »

ck37090 wrote: »

...why does it take 6 months to fully leveling riding?

To make you spend crowns on it.
So ZOS can make more profit from ESO.
Duh.
Welcome to capitalism!

There's always someone like you in every thread and you are all so tiresome. You are the kind of people who accept anything and everything "'cause they need to make a profit...duh"

Fact is that ESO is not perfect and those imperfect things should be fixed to make the game more attractive. THAT is also capitalism... duh.

Hoolielulu · October 2018

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Hämähäkki · October 2018

Does anyone remember that time when it took 3-5 month to level your toon to V16?
What I am trying to say is, that it is a pain in the @$$ but there was a time when it took the same amount of time to level your toon with your mount.

pod88kk · October 2018

Because you can buy upgrades in the crown store

JKorr · October 2018

Geekgirl wrote: »

I still argue that the saner choice is each *mount* is trained account-wide.

Example: I own the Christmas horse and the Psijic horse. I spend the next month upgrading speed on the Christmas horse. The Christmas horse now has 30 speed for EVERY character but the Psijic horse does not.

When The game launched different horses were stronger and had different perks; some were faster, some carried more, some had better stamina. I don’t see why we can’t go back to that and train the horses individually versus each character individually.

Because many players really didn't want to have to buy at least three different horses for each character, that were only special for one stat, like speed OR inventory OR stamina, and only after feeding them one type of food to boost the stat you wanted, and hopefully not make a mistake on whether Dobbin1 needed oats, or was it apples, or maybe hay or was that supposed to be Dobbin2? If you made a mistake, you couldn't undo it, so your mount would never max out that one stat.

Training all three stats on one character lets that character use any mount and get the same result.

Not to mention how much complaining/ranting/arguing would result in having the different mounts with the various stats in the crown store and various prices for them. If the grey sabercat is faster than the Christmas horse, should it cost more, or less? Why should I have to buy the Christmas horse if I want more stamina, but I don't like the way it looks/don't like the horses at all and want the grey sabercat with stamina instead of speed? Or, for that matter, if I want only one mount, but I want speed, stamina, and inventory space; how many crowns would that cost?

neverwalk · October 2018

Horse Racing has being talked about afew times and it is coming one day, STAMINA pool on mount is for racing-allows top speed to remain for much longer periods of time.

Pasdev · October 2018

this is the main reason why I no longer create a new character. for a pvp player it's really boring. creating a new character should be exciting but on the contrary it is the kind of thing that discourages. can we have fun creating a new character?

Kiralyn2000 · October 2018

Personally, I don't bother training stamina. But I'm not a pvp'er.

re: train the mount, not the character..... eh, having different mounts be a 'cosmetic' thing, probably sells more crowns than mount training books. If people had to train every mount, no one would bother collecting a dozen+ mounts. Because they'd have to train every one. And every new mount that popped up (bought, daily login, free crown crate, paid crown crate, etc) would be another training to start. Just doing it once per character is far far better for a "lots of mounts" setup.

And they want it to be a "lot of mounts" system, because mounts clearly make them a ton of $. They're the only reason to buy lots of crown crates, mounts come with every DLC Collector Edition, mounts are clearly a big thing for a lot of the playerbase. Individual mount training would be a big hit to that system.

SHADOW2KK · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

If you don't feed it every day it should get slower and lose stamina and drop a bag space!

Ok, I'm leaving, lol

LOL, brave words sir, love it

I was going to add, if it gets to zero then the next day it's dead and you have to buy it again for crowns, but thought I might be pushing my luck with that one.

Hahah awesomed, you are evil hahah.

Mintaka5 · October 2018

IKR!

I like how BDO does it. Train as you ride. The more your ride, the more XP the mount gets in various stats.

BennyButton · October 2018

i use whatever crown crate gems i have to buy speed/stam/carrying capacity items and theyre like 5 gems each iirc

SaxonCrusader · October 2018

@ck37090 These guys somehow have the ability to train dire wolves, lions, tigers, bears, giant insects, Dwemer automations, undead, daedra, and camels, yet for some reason it's the length of time it takes to train them that baffles you most.

rfennell_ESO · October 2018

ck37090 wrote: »

Seriously...even just leveling speed takes 2 months and speed and stamina 4 months...which are important in PvP...NOTHING in this game takes that amount of time...you can literally fully level a character in hours...why the hell would they make riding take 6 months?!?! Sorry, just leveling riding on my newly made character and i'm just disgusted with how they try to push people to buy overpriced riding lessons in their store...[removed comment]

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It should be halved in time.

Realistically.. it's just too long.

JimmyJuJu · October 2018

Here's the general crown store business model:

Durables
Consumables

The mount (durable) and training (consumable) pair well together from a commercial perspective. The design is deliberate and intentional - and it isn't going to change. If you want change, then you need to change.

It's that simple. Stop wasting energy on it.

Gargath · October 2018

When I was levelling my new alt I was always putting enough 120 champion points for The Thief, The Tower, to "improve the mastery with mounts, removing all stamina costs outside of combat" - War Mount passive.
That way no need for levelling stamina riding, can focus only on speed.

Bouldercleave · October 2018

JimmyJuJu wrote: »

Here's the general crown store business model:
Durables

Consumables

The mount (durable) and training (consumable) pair well together from a commercial perspective. The design is deliberate and intentional - and it isn't going to change. If you want change, then you need to change.

It's that simple. Stop wasting energy on it.

Relax Sally, We're just talking here. Conversations are a good thing and good things can come of it.

MinnesotaKid · October 2018

BennyButton wrote: »

i use whatever crown crate gems i have to buy speed/stam/carrying capacity items and theyre like 5 gems each iirc

^^^^This^^^^

I never use those potions and stuff we get in the free crates. I convert them to gems and purchase mount upgrades with the gems.

idk · October 2018

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Simple solution to this:

You can train each of the lines once per day. Cuts the 6 months down to 60 days and still keeps it from being TOO easy.

This could be a crown store unlock. Great idea. Obviously it has to involve the crown store since the idea takes away from sales.

Bouldercleave · October 2018

idk wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Simple solution to this:

You can train each of the lines once per day. Cuts the 6 months down to 60 days and still keeps it from being TOO easy.

This could be a crown store unlock. Great idea. Obviously it has to involve the crown store since the idea takes away from sales.

Crown store or eso+ perk. Either would work to increase demand for it.