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Really...why does it take 6 months to fully leveling riding?
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TheValar85✭✭✭✭✭yeah it is a bit annyoing if you want make an alt chararcter.
I think ZOS should add accunt wide accses to instant 60/60/60 after you have done this with on at least one character.
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Gandrhulf_Harbard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There is a really simple reason for this and its right in front of everyone’s faces. They want you to log in every day
Then perhaps they should add some interesting, non-grindy, engaging content.
I hear that works at keeping players logging in.
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Yes hated that, had an inventory horse and a speed horse for pvp and it was super frustrating then i forgot to switch.G1Countdown wrote: »Actually its been this way since before the crown store was a thing. It used to be way more tough. Imagine leveling each mount individually.
The way they have it now is much improved.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yah it sucks, but...
If you have ESO plus you get Crowns every month. If you don't bow them on cosmetics then you will have enough after a few months to at least get speed up to 40.
I don't love it but I think the Crown allotment was made for this sort of thing. And if you are not ESO plus then you kind of have to expect these sort of inconveniences.0 -
TheCyberDruid✭✭✭✭✭When The game launched different horses were stronger and had different perks; some were faster, some carried more, some had better stamina. I don’t see why we can’t go back to that and train the horses individually versus each character individually.
Because that way people would buy less mounts that way. Clearly nobody at ZOS wants that.0 -
Dagoth_Rac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I still argue that the saner choice is each *mount* is trained account-wide.
Example: I own the Christmas horse and the Psijic horse. I spend the next month upgrading speed on the Christmas horse. The Christmas horse now has 30 speed for EVERY character but the Psijic horse does not.
When The game launched different horses were stronger and had different perks; some were faster, some carried more, some had better stamina. I don’t see why we can’t go back to that and train the horses individually versus each character individually.
The change was made immediately before Crown Store went live. It was done so that buying Crown Store mounts was more attractive. People would be discouraged from buying mounts if the mount was super slow. The forum rage would be epic if people paid for a mount from cash shop and then had to wait two months or spend an extra $60 to get mount up to speed.1 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭G1Countdown wrote: »Actually its been this way since before the crown store was a thing. It used to be way more tough. Imagine leveling each mount individually.
The way they have it now is much improved.
if I could level one mount and use it on all my characters i would way rather have that.
trust me, you don't want that. becasue you can only use 60 points, period and it was STILL once a day, so you had to chose if you wanted full speed, full stamina or bag space. (and it wasn't across all characters either, each character had to buy their own mount and then level it separately)
now, I'm not saying that current system we have is good. no, its not, just becasue it used to be sooo much worse, doesn't mean that what we have right now is good. just that it used to be even worse.
but yeah, the only reason we still have this stupid system in - is to sell lessons in crown store. its not for immersion. its not for any of the other excuses people make. its to sell. crown. lessons.dirty worthless casual.
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✭✭✭✭✭NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Because MMOs are intended to be long-term games and require commitment to accomplish things?
This. It's an MMO. Long before cash shops and microtransactions, when all the MMOs were subscription, they were loaded with tons of things that took a long time to do. One, because it kept you subscribed longer; and two, because it gave them more time to work on the next 'content release' while people were dealing with week-long raid lockouts, grinding reputations for months, farming rare crafting mats, etc.
So it was already a core/normal 'feature' of MMOs before things like the 'crown store' came about.
And that's part of why they cost a silly amount in cash shops (along with "instant level", the banker/merchant, and similar things) - they're convenience features, not required. With a bit of patience you can get there without spending any $, but if you're impatient you can pay a premium to skip it.
(Kind of like getting soda at a hotel - you can pay $$$$ to get a can out of your mini-fridge, you can pay $$ to get a can from the soda machine two floors away, or you can pay $ if you walk down the block to a corner store.)Edited by Kiralyn2000 on October 14, 2018 3:42PM2 -
Partomax✭✭✭I have 10 characters with fully level horses and I have never paid anything. Spending more time on it makes it more rewarding when you complete it, mount upgrades are not a requirement, nothing takes that long in the game? How long did it take you to reach CP 780, even reaching cp 500 can take more than that (unless you grind), and if I may say so being high CP is a lot more relevant than having your horse move a little bit faster (for pve that is, if you play pvp especially on a non CP campaign in cyrodil mount speed an stamina is more important, but still not necessary.)PC/EU - This is a signature1 -
BozzyTheDrummer✭✭✭✭It was frustrating to me at first, but I ha e learned to deal with it. I always buy enough books to get my riding speed to at least 10-15 right off the bat. Everything else, I go to the stable master and raise speed the normal way, each day, on every toon. There are two other instances where i’ll buy books. 1) I gat books from crown crates, i’ll use them immediately. 2) if I’m really, really impatient, i’ll buy some more booms for speed when going into Cyrodiil.
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✭✭✭Trait grind is way worse. It takes more than a full year to get every single trait without ESO+ and Research scrolls.Argonian forever1 -
Nicko_Lps✭✭✭✭✭It takes so much because riding lesson tokens exist in the crown store.
Therefore do not complain and pay mighty ZoS your money because they deserve it due to their flawless servers, 0 bugs, 0 lags, and awesome game performance.
Dont forget to buy other newly added things too, dont stay focused on riding lessons!1 -
Sevalaricgirl✭✭✭✭✭Really, I've been sitting on a crafting research for about 15 days and still have 12 left. So yes, something else does take that long.0
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✭✭✭✭✭you know I will never understand people who think waiting is rewarding. I understand when investing active time into something is rewarding. like... when I was actively working on something for hours and hours, multiple days, even weeks to finally accomplish the result I wanted - yes, that's rewarding. but just passively waiting? that's not rewarding, that's annoying to me. I'm not doing anything other then waiting for a timer to expire. there is NO accomplishment in that.
and I get it, I get the idea of MMO's creating long term content, and I get the idea of investing time into that content. when I finished all the quests I needed to, and finished farming all the gold that I needed - to buy myself an in game mansion. the hard way - THAT felt awesome. but I had to actualy, you know - work at it. it took actual, genuine effort, as fun as that effort was. not just sit passively waiting for timer to run out.Edited by Linaleah on October 14, 2018 7:38PMdirty worthless casual.
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✭✭✭✭✭you know I will never understand people who think waiting is rewarding.
I do not think waiting is rewarding and I have 18 characters with max level mounts. I do fully understand the horse training system will not be changing and the reasons are rather obvious. We can instant train our mounts with what is available from the crown store.0 -
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✭✭✭What someone suggested in a previous thread was that the gold has a multiplier on it by 2 if you wanted to train it all at once so if you wanted 3 skill points in one day you'd have to spend like 200g+400g+800g in one day to get those 3 points and each time at reset it'll dissolve one multiplier each day.0 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭you know I will never understand people who think waiting is rewarding.
I do not think waiting is rewarding and I have 18 characters with max level mounts. I do fully understand the horse training system will not be changing and the reasons are rather obvious. We can instant train our mounts with what is available from the crown store.
see my much earlier post. I agree, the ONLY reason horse training is the way it is has NOTHING to do with MMO content longevity or anything feeling rewarding or any of those other excuses people make.
its becasue crown lessons exist. nothing more. nothing less.
the reply you quoted was addressed at someone who claimed that it felt rewarding to finish leveling a horse the long way. the only thing I felt when I finished my last alt - was relief. finally. its over with. no more stables.dirty worthless casual.
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Zeromaz✭✭✭✭There is a really simple reason for this and its right in front of everyone’s faces. They want you to log in every day
lol...and you really think that? ...content...daily prizes...enjoyable things are what make people log in everyday...they do this to make money by overcharging riding lessons in the overpriced crown store...that is why they do it...lets just say you have 12 characters...that takes at least 20 minutes if you want to spend the time to train all 12 characters in riding...you think that type of thing is what people like and they keep coming back to? That is what makes people play this game? You think that is what ZOS wants is for people to log in and train riding? Ok...you sure do have things figured out.
You obviously didn’t play before crown store or daily rewards.... or you’re just not smart0 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is a really simple reason for this and its right in front of everyone’s faces. They want you to log in every day
lol...and you really think that? ...content...daily prizes...enjoyable things are what make people log in everyday...they do this to make money by overcharging riding lessons in the overpriced crown store...that is why they do it...lets just say you have 12 characters...that takes at least 20 minutes if you want to spend the time to train all 12 characters in riding...you think that type of thing is what people like and they keep coming back to? That is what makes people play this game? You think that is what ZOS wants is for people to log in and train riding? Ok...you sure do have things figured out.
You obviously didn’t play before crown store or daily rewards.... or you’re just not smart
you mean, back when the game was floundering and had to be redesigned and improved? those days? you know days before ZoS wised up and started adding daily quests for people to do instead of daily "click on a stablemaster" taskdirty worthless casual.
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✭✭✭✭I dunno OP, I guess this game is meant to be a long term commitment and several things take time to master, even the simplest most skill-less action of feeding a horse. They want ya to log in every day or as often as possible!Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I dunno OP, I guess this game is meant to be a long term commitment and several things take time to master, even the simplest most skill-less action of feeding a horse. They want ya to log in every day or as often as possible!
that would be why they added DAILY LOGIN rewards and before that various daily quests.
horse leveling? has NOTHING to do with long term commitment and everything to do with selling riding lessons in crown store.Edited by Linaleah on October 14, 2018 9:57PMdirty worthless casual.
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UPrime✭✭✭✭Be grateful. When the game launched it was PER MOUNT, with no crown purchases.
I still don't purchase lessons with crowns. I rather do it the normal way with time.0 -
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✭✭✭✭I dunno OP, I guess this game is meant to be a long term commitment and several things take time to master, even the simplest most skill-less action of feeding a horse. They want ya to log in every day or as often as possible!
that would be why they added DAILY LOGIN rewards and before that various daily quests.
horse leveling? has NOTHING to do with long term commitment and everything to do with selling riding lessons in crown store.
Except that the horse leveling came before all that.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
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✭To make you keep coming back and log in every day.PS NA
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Iselin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Because any chance of improving on the base game inconveniences - and there are many - disappeared when they started monetizing relief from inconvenience.
6 months per account would still be overly lengthy. 6 months per character is insane.3 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I dunno OP, I guess this game is meant to be a long term commitment and several things take time to master, even the simplest most skill-less action of feeding a horse. They want ya to log in every day or as often as possible!
that would be why they added DAILY LOGIN rewards and before that various daily quests.
horse leveling? has NOTHING to do with long term commitment and everything to do with selling riding lessons in crown store.
Except that the horse leveling came before all that.
yes and it sucked even more. that doesn't change the fact that they STILL kept that horrible cooldown and made it take 6 months instead of original 2. do you want to guess why? (dailies btw, came around the same time as changes to horses if I remember correctly)dirty worthless casual.
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Because any chance of improving on the base game inconveniences - and there are many - disappeared when they started monetizing relief from inconvenience.
6 months per account would still be overly lengthy. 6 months per character is insane.
THIS. THIS RIGHT THERE.
I mean.. I love this game and I think it does a lot of things very well, but... we have to be honest here.dirty worthless casual.
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