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cyrodill rant
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thegreat_one✭✭✭✭@ZOS_BrianWheeler Just got DC'd again on Vivec, Have you fixed the issue with too many players in one area causing mass crashes?????
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RobZha✭✭✭Yeah agreed with a lot of what's said here. One thing I'm looking forward to is seeing what these pvp changes make Cyro like, but at the same time found it a bit odd when they talked live about the upcoming changes but never said a word about fixing Cyro lag? I mean don't they expect the place to be a lot more busy once these changes are added?
So if they do the usual thing of ignoring making performance significantly better all the work that's gone into changing pvp will be tarnished in a big way by the same old thing.
I think this is a good post too and sums up how bizarre this situation is :PureEnvelope35 wrote: »Another thing that ZOS are failing to realise is that PvP games are extremely popular these days, which would mean that if they actually tried improving both performance and balance regularly (instead of giving us 'fixes' every 3 months) ESO would gain a much larger player base, thus giving ZOS more money to improve the game more. Instead it seems that the marketing team is focussing on short term investments like the crown store, instead of actual improvements for PvE and PvP that can really help the longevity of the game and boost the popularity a lot.
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Jameliel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just ran to Aleswell and got booted the moment I got close to the battle. On second login attempt. Probably going to be all the way back at the gate.0 -
Jameliel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Third login attempt since getting booted. WTF is wrong with the servers or code that they cant or won't fix them after months and months of this garbage been repeatedly reported?0 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭most of the time its down to the trains, which most of the dev's organised, i find lag and dc's happen when yellow trains are near byMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike0
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terrannova✭✭✭alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »most of the time its down to the trains, which most of the dev's organised, i find lag and dc's happen when yellow trains are near by
Yea dcs happen for the most part whenever an organized zerg is online. It is a sure dc fest. U can see people forming a line cause they got dc'ed.0 -
terrannova✭✭✭thegreat_one wrote: »@ZOS_BrianWheeler Again Dc'd at ales.
Ure wasting your time bro. There were honestly way too many posts about cyro since midyear mayhem event and after. No dev responded to any of those. Best part is that on an ESO live the marketing "dev" team all they had to say was that cyrodill performed ok and that it went great. I think that those words were used at this exact order.
Obviously no one of them cares after all these years. I was patient about it, i know its not an easy matter to resolve. But boy, completely ignoring this is on par with being a greedy EA employee. Also im so surprised this post isnt closed yet by a moderator.
Just give your money somewhere else. People in this forum keep defending this company soooo much, i dont get them.1 -
TheValar85✭✭✭✭✭Yes i have to agree with you.
Probably the only way to Force ZOS to fix this issue is to stop supporting them and stop playing within pvp enviroment, when they see the numbers on their charts they will realise they have to do something about it actualy instead of saying we know teh issues, we know teh issues of teh loading screen they looking into it and so on...
I mean come on girl how many years have been pased sience then? And still no improovment? i dont want be rude with teh ZOS employees but if you cant handle and fixing these matters simply dont apply to your job please. Becasue nowdays as a more then 200 million dollar project mmo game cannot have the luxury like this to ignore these facts and issues wich needs to be dealt with ages ago.
It is shameful.Edited by TheValar85 on October 14, 2018 12:20PMGM Of The Lusty Argonian ERPGM Of THe Alessia Dynasty PVP GuildGM Of The Guardians Of MiddleEarthMy Smiling Emperor Profile Picture: https://ibb.co/bsOM6n1 -
Thunderclap✭✭✭And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Ash. Reach mg and the connection was gone.
. PC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50800 -
terrannova✭✭✭TheValar85 wrote: »Yes i have to agree with you.
Probably the only way to Force ZOS to fix this issue is to stop supporting them and stop playing within pvp enviroment, when they see the numbers on their charts they will realise they have to do something about it actualy instead of saying we know teh issues, we know teh issues of teh loading screen they looking into it and so on...
I mean come on girl how many years have been pased sience then? And still no improovment? i dont want be rude with teh ZOS employees but if you cant handle and fixing these matters simply dont apply to your job please. Becasue nowdays as a more then 200 million dollar project mmo game cannot have the luxury like this to ignore these facts and issues wich needs to be dealt with ages ago.
It is shameful.
well it seems that the constant new content release and the numerous events that are happening, are really making people play the game again and again. also new people keep coming in. Only time will show how the new players will react. If numbers continue to be that high with people coming and going, its benefitial for the company. Only steam numbers seem really really good. Pve will always be their number one target, mostly cause new people and most of the playerbase is targeting it. So pvp will keep being ignored, as long as over 70% of the players seem to be playing pve0 -
regime211✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ive had the opposite experience. no lag, 40-60fps 100-150 ping.
why?
because as soon as the game feels "off" in terms of performance, I port to one of the servers ZOS proactively and graciously opened for inevitable overflow.
Sometimes i bounce between campaigns 5 times in one evening to maintain an extremely positive experience ive had thus far with this event which has now become a standard to the industry.
you can change your guest campaign for free. leave cyro > change guest > port to new campaign > avoid pop locked servers > avoid bad performance > profit.
Lol but no.0 -
Neoealth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah I don't really take PVP that seriously in this game. It's kind of a joke.
Way to many snares and roots, couple that with the insane lag and server performance and invisible players who can stab you to death without ever seeing them. And players all speeding around like they have jets up their bottoms.
It's bit of a circus.5 -
Thunderclap✭✭✭And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Sej. Port from base to Sej via TS, reach and the connection was gone.. Sej was ua from "some" reds. PC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50800
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✭✭PC/NA Vivec.
Got disconnected twice last night.
The first time my ping was 2300m/s for maybe 5 minutes and then everyone stopped moving. The second time I saw no ping spike, but no one was moving once I arrived at the keep we were trying to capture.
Both times I couldn't log back in on that character. I would just get an error about internet connection. Pretty much had to wait until that character got kicked out of the campaign before I was able to log back in, and then had to queue back into the campaign.0 -
terrannova✭✭✭SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »PC/NA Vivec.
Got disconnected twice last night.
The first time my ping was 2300m/s for maybe 5 minutes and then everyone stopped moving. The second time I saw no ping spike, but no one was moving once I arrived at the keep we were trying to capture.
Both times I couldn't log back in on that character. I would just get an error about internet connection. Pretty much had to wait until that character got kicked out of the campaign before I was able to log back in, and then had to queue back into the campaign.
welcome to the club bro0 -
Mintaka5✭✭✭✭✭Well said, OP.
Between, broke AF builds dominating gameplay, cheaters and exploiters bottlenecking the servers with whatever *** scripting they have on their end, lag, skills not firing, bars not swapping, incap strike that kills me at range, loading screens from hell, and just general poor quality customer service, the only thing that keeps me around is that I've invested so much time and money into this game, I am reluctant to stop playing.
If the community stopped playing for a day or days, as a protest to this, instead of enabling bad quality control, I think ZOS would get the hint, and get a fire lit under them to start making general improvements to improve gameplay quality.
Enough is enough!!!!Edited by Mintaka5 on November 15, 2018 11:01PM0 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Well said, OP.
Between, broke AF builds dominating gameplay, cheaters and exploiters bottlenecking the servers with whatever *** scripting they have on their end, lag, skills not firing, bars not swapping, incap strike that kills me at range, loading screens from hell, and just general poor quality customer service, the only thing that keeps me around is that I've invested so much time and money into this game, I am not willing to stop playing.
If the community stopped playing for a day or days, as a protest to this, instead of enabling bad quality control, I think ZOS would get the hint, and get a fire lit under them to start making general improvements to improve gameplay quality.
Enough is enough!!!!
agreed that is what they did with ffx mmo and reborn was bornMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike0 -
terrannova✭✭✭Well said, OP.
Between, broke AF builds dominating gameplay, cheaters and exploiters bottlenecking the servers with whatever *** scripting they have on their end, lag, skills not firing, bars not swapping, incap strike that kills me at range, loading screens from hell, and just general poor quality customer service, the only thing that keeps me around is that I've invested so much time and money into this game, I am not willing to stop playing.
If the community stopped playing for a day or days, as a protest to this, instead of enabling bad quality control, I think ZOS would get the hint, and get a fire lit under them to start making general improvements to improve gameplay quality.
Enough is enough!!!!
yup, i will not spend any more money on this game cause there is absolutely no improvement to performance. I still dont believe how people defend them and advise others to go and play on shor ( a dead server). If i want to play a dead pvp game i will play wildstar. Most of the people defending the dev team so much is just so they will seem like the good guys and hoping that gina or a hot nerdy girl will notice them0 -
Thunderclap✭✭✭No improvement with 4.2.5
And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Nik. Port via TS from base to Nik, reach and the connection was gone.. Was ua by "some" blues.
And its also *** always up when I try to log back with the message "Check your internet connection".
2018-10-24T19:45:54.835+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: USER_INTERFACE, CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-10-24T19:46:03.181+01:00 Load Screen - USER_INTERFACE Complete
2018-10-24T19:46:03.181+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-10-24T19:47:03.059+01:00 Load Screen - OnDisconnectedFromServer
2018-10-24T19:47:03.059+01:00 Load Screen - Hide
2018-10-24T19:47:03.059+01:00 Load Screen - Hide - Wasn't Already Hiding
I will never understand why my internet should be the reason that this s..t server can't activate my char.
Edited by Thunderclap on October 24, 2018 5:50PMPC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50800 -
terrannova✭✭✭Thunderclap wrote: »No improvement with 4.2.5
And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Nik. Port via TS from base to Nik, reach and the connection was gone.. Was ua by "some" blues.
And its also *** always up when I try to log back with the message "Check your internet connection".
2018-10-24T19:45:54.835+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: USER_INTERFACE, CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-10-24T19:46:03.181+01:00 Load Screen - USER_INTERFACE Complete
2018-10-24T19:46:03.181+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-10-24T19:47:03.059+01:00 Load Screen - OnDisconnectedFromServer
2018-10-24T19:47:03.059+01:00 Load Screen - Hide
2018-10-24T19:47:03.059+01:00 Load Screen - Hide - Wasn't Already Hiding
I will never understand why my internet should be the reason that this s..t server can't activate my char.
Still trying? Haha
Im over this game already bro. Servers are just bad and will stay that way. Dont get your hopes up1 -
Mrs_Malaka✭✭✭✭I commend the determination of @Thunderclap
Cyrodiil performance in Vivec is still pretty bad.
When there is a big battle at the keeps or castles that have more that about 30 players (of any faction) then things get chuggy, my siege will just randomly disappear in the middle of using it, then, and only then, is when I know I am about to get kicked/timed out from Cyrodiil and booted to the login screen.
It's frustrating that ESO has opportunity to make Cyrodiil much more fun than painful yet chooses to not focus on finding & fixing what creates all these freezes in gameplay and bootings to login screens. I know they can do it. I just don't know WHY they won't take care of it. Maybe they don't have knowledgeable staff or maybe they are not focusing on the PVP aspect anymore.
I leave and come back to ESO every so often (about 3-6 months maybe). I have 7,408 hours playtime across all eleven of my characters (not counting ones I've re-rolled over the years) and I got to say that for me this game has always been a really strong LOVE/HATE relationship. Yes, I have played other MMOs out there but they can't compare for some irritating reason. I've gotten burnt out of WoW (played up through Legion). FF14 just got boring too quickly once I finished Stormblood content.
I must admit that I am picky when looking for other games to play because I look at games as an investment, not just financially but also a huge investment of my time, and as such, I am reserved this right of being picky. ESO has this strange mix of something I find enjoyable in the gameplay peppered with things I loathe, which is why it's game that I keep leaving and returning to, time and time again. Like @Thunderclap , I too am determined. My determination is to keep coming back to this game after taking long breaks from it in hopes that it has become the greener pastures I've been hoping to find in MMOs. I know that no MMO will ever be 100% perfect (to my standards, anyway) but for what I've played and seen so far in the industry, ESO is my go-to for when I want something other than single-player gaming."But screw your courage to the sticking-place,
And we’ll not fail."
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terrannova✭✭✭After reading the first 2 pages on general discussion i can see nothing has changed. Im glad im not spending any money on this game anymore. I might even uninstall it... Zenimax will never learn and stay at a playerbase of people that come and go and the pvers of course. Such a shame3
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Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭terrannova wrote: »hello,
i know this post will recieve a lot of hate and negative comments but i wanna share my honest opinion about cyrodill server performance. This is because i can see that people keep having problems but most of the players, either have just accepted the server's struggle to stay alive , or either they dont want to admit that server's performance is poor only because they dont want to promote any more negativity towards the developers.
All that are said below concern EU VIVEC server. Its the most populated server and the one that most people play. If u are about to comment that i should try another server (like non cp or the 7day campaigns) i will answer that i dont want to play alone or with 10 other people at 90% of the time. People play Vivec cause of the large battles and the excitement of rushing to capture keeps and taking part in big sieges and thats what im after.
So firstly i would like to admit that i honestly LOVE this game and have something around 1000hours played (not that much i know but a decent amount). The thing i enjoy the most is PVP (in any game not just in eso) and i tend to play in cyrodill mostly. Most of the times i try to hop into cyrodill at non prime time, like early evenings or late night cause less people are online and server's performance is decent-good. At those times i can play without any issue and everything runs as smooth as possible. Everything changes when times goes by ,more people come in and server gets a decent amount of players in queue . At those times there is a delay in every skill activated ,but be sure that after all this time playing the game i am totally fine with it. Its understandable for a server with a big amount of players struggling and having some latency issues.I can honestly deal with some 200ish ping and some delay.
The thing that i am most irritated and most dissapointed as a customer is that i get timed out and disconnected when a zerg is nearby (everytime) or whenever there are fights happening with over 30 players at a keep. This happens almost every time i encounter anything like this in cyrodill.
I have to notice though that only for ONCE after the summerset update i enjoyed a full scale 2hour and 30minute (estimated time!!!) siege that all 3 factions took place surely with 100players(should be so) in roebeck and i was so proud that i only disconnected ONE time. Of course latency was very high but most important thing is that disconnects didnt happen to most of the players, although lots of people kept logging in claiming they got timed out many times.
So with all of those constant time outs and disconnects that happen regularly , how can someone believe that a PVP related event is going to work out? As of this time i am writing this i have been trying for 1 hour to stay in EU VICEC cyrodill and enjoy the full stacked server but i get timed out even when im not near any battle. People keep coming into pvp even if they never tried it before and it makes the server struggle even more. Its completely unresponsive!! Sure opening a couple of servers sure took some heat off the main server but its not working out.
How can someone excpect implementing this huge event into this really problematic pvp server with this absolutely terrible performance to be acceptable? I find the lack of reports from other players about this issue kinda disturbing.Just for the simple reason that developers will just wait untill the event goes away or players will be driven away by poor performance and things will operate great again. Game is in desperate need of a performance improvement only because summerset performance improvements didnt work at all.
I dont thing i have all my thoughts shared with any brave warrior that is going to read this monstrosity but i honestly dont care cause most people will comment only to judge me.
One last thing to prevent any keyboard warriors from losing their time my pc setup can run any other game without any trouble like battlefield 1 ,GTA5 , witcher 3 at high settings always above 60fps.Also my internet connection is more than enough so save your time.
thanks for everyone who took their time to read this
TL:DR EU vivec performance is terrible and needs urgent improvement before more players will be driven away (once more) from this game.
If you love playing in Cyrodiil then you will love Camelot Unchained when its finished. Same 3 way siege warfare set up but with using actual real world lore of Vikings vs King Author vs Celtic Irish. They are making a custom engine designed to handle massive siege battles with no lag. Will also have unique races and classes on each realm and an actual crafter class for each side that builds all structures and gear in the game. progression will also only come siege warfare and PVP.0 -
terrannova✭✭✭Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »
If you love playing in Cyrodiil then you will love Camelot Unchained when its finished. Same 3 way siege warfare set up but with using actual real world lore of Vikings vs King Author vs Celtic Irish. They are making a custom engine designed to handle massive siege battles with no lag. Will also have unique races and classes on each realm and an actual crafter class for each side that builds all structures and gear in the game. progression will also only come siege warfare and PVP.
thnx a lot for the answer bro, but i really really 100% dont expect anything from those upcoming mmos that everyone is hyped for. An mmo to work has to get a big name, which means a lot of money and give it time. I mean i looked at ashes of creation and it looked like crap to me, when everyone is hyped for it. Abilities have no radius indication, ***'s laggy af and it looks really bad.
Camelot on the other hand seems better, but way too sluggish and clanky. I know its early to say but seems meh. Only hope i have for now is the new lord of the rings mmo thats gonna come out some time. Even though im afraid its gonna suck too, cause by launch it will be f2p....
I will go back to fps games as i always was. Next mmo i'll play will be of a big company's.0 -
Thunderclap✭✭✭And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Roe. Reach mg and the connection was gone.. PC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50800
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terrannova✭✭✭Thunderclap wrote: »And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Roe. Reach mg and the connection was gone..
Hahah i came here after a while hoping to see a comment from u. I have almost completely gave up on the game bro. I dont even do my daily logins any more.
Play sth else. Seriously. This game is a joke. I just saw reddit posts about today's eso live and the highlights people were posting involved some guys getting married and some dungeon runs....
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Thunderclap✭✭✭And again. PVP EU Vivec. Fight for Ash. Reach my "magic" disconnect point after the gate to ash and the connection was gone.. Edited by Thunderclap on November 10, 2018 1:01PMPC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50800
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valeriiya✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm really happy with the changes that added outposts and made the bridges and gates take damage (goodbye Alessia bridge), we screamed for change in Cyrodiil for years, I'm glad they're at least trying.
What ruins it is the lag. It's not as bad as the CWC disaster but it's no fun to play when half your group DC's in the middle of a fight or it takes 3-5 tries to bar swap, I'm dead at that point.
So good try ZO$ but if you don't fix basic performance issues the other changes are no fun.4
