Need Nerf on DK Petrify/Fossilize/Shattering Rocks (PC or any) N/A or any region

chaz · October 2018

Hello and good day.

So, here it is. If it hasn't been said already allow me to then to say The skill petrify and it's morphs need to be Nerfed. Where as once your get encased and break free, you should gain an immunity to it's affects for at least 5 seconds. Because, and I'll tell you why. If you haven't heard by now, this seems to be a common one button favorite for DK's and they love to spam it. A player should not be hit by it, breaks free and immediately gets encased again, ,,,, wash rinse repeat over and over.

So again, need the nerf on this particular skill so once players break free, they cannot be encased or immobilized again for at least a minimum or 5 seconds to give them a fair chance.

Thanks.

Kikke · October 2018

So now we go after the DK CC?

What can say I say but, the moment people went after rune cage.

Called it

And I find it wierd that same people that complained about Rune Cage and now Petrify deliberately leaves out NBs fear.

MetalHead4x4 · October 2018

Its true though. They lock you down, whip whip whip and you break free and roll only to get it applied to you immediately and they do it over and over. It's cancer. Some classes don't run immovable pots we need other pots on our Q button, we should have snare immunity for at least a small window of time as if you've "learned" from it. Like "Aha you're not catching me with that same thing twice."

frostz417 · October 2018

Unavoidable cc’s shouldn’t be a thing in this game. Especially with how atrocious the cc break coding is.

ccfeeling · October 2018

Work as intend

Judas Helviaryn · October 2018

If you're getting hit by hard CC twice in a row, before CC immunity is up, that's a bug and should be fixed.

If you're getting hit by hard CC, followed up with soft CC such as a root or snare, or with subsequent, rapid roots or snares, you should learn to play.

Not bait, just true.

RinaldoGandolphi · October 2018

I think you folks are mistaking Talons and Fossilize

If I Talon you and you roll out then I Fossilize you that’s working as intended and designed as being rooted and being stunned are not the same thing and share a separate immunity and cooldown times.

Talons can also be removed with purge, shuffle, and forward momentum in addition to dodging.

DK have more control options then other classes because they are designed to be tanky with no execute. Fossilize has a short range, has been nerfed already, and requires you to be in very close range to use it. I think it’s fine considering it has all the risks of melee combat unlike how Rune Cage was with its 41m range in Cyrodiil

Lokirules · October 2018

Again no more nerfs this is getting super ridiculous. More Buffs and more counter play no nerfs

TheValar85 · October 2018

I agree on this. i dont have to be more specific it is a well known sheeet fest.

MaxwellC · October 2018

Cool so let's do that but at the same time give me everything DKs have lost since ICP. I also want every skill every class stole to be given back and stripped because that was my skill in the first place. Lastly I want shattering rocks to always make the target affected off-balance.

RobZha · October 2018

chaz wrote: »

Hello and good day.

So, here it is. If it hasn't been said already allow me to then to say The skill petrify and it's morphs need to be Nerfed. Where as once your get encased and break free, you should gain an immunity to it's affects for at least 5 seconds. Because, and I'll tell you why. If you haven't heard by now, this seems to be a common one button favorite for DK's and they love to spam it. A player should not be hit by it, breaks free and immediately gets encased again, ,,,, wash rinse repeat over and over.

So again, need the nerf on this particular skill so once players break free, they cannot be encased or immobilized again for at least a minimum or 5 seconds to give them a fair chance.

Thanks.

We can't "spam" the skill because players/npc's have cc immunity until it can be used again. There's a cooldown on it. A stam DK doesn't have much else going for it other than this skill either, so if they're nerfing it they'd better work out what we're getting to make up for it, or the class is beyond broken. We probably won't have anywhere near the amount of players sorcs had being vocal on here though with shields if the nerf happens so maybe zos along with most of eso's players won't really care either.

Anyway we'll just have to deal with whatever happens, as usual. Giving the class another stam offensive skill that's decent enough to be used would be cool though. I mean what defines a stam dk if this is nerfed with no new skill? Running around flapping our wings? The class needs working on, and not just by nerfing.

Mr_Walker · October 2018

Another day, another call to nerf something.

What shall tomorrow bring us, I wonder....

ArchMikem · October 2018

I got fossilized in the middle of a roll dodge just tonight.

I agree.

Sleep724 · October 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

I got fossilized in the middle of a roll dodge just tonight.

I agree.

Its an undodgeable cc.

ArchMikem · October 2018

Sleep724 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

I got fossilized in the middle of a roll dodge just tonight.

I agree.

Its an undodgeable cc.

If other cc's can be, then it should be too.

Jameliel · October 2018

Buff Sloads, buff Caluurions, buff damage, buff health by 50k, buff buff-timers by 500%..Buffs..MOAR BUFFS

chaz · October 2018

Sleep724 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

I got fossilized in the middle of a roll dodge just tonight.

I agree.

Its an undodgeable cc.

Finally the first one that said it.

WOW.

Thank you, yup it is UNDODGEABLE. And DK's spam it on you over and over. Wasting all your stam just bursting out of it. Can't dodge roll thru it or out of it, can't dodge roll out of it when the affect is over because you immediately get hit again. And it's UN-blockable.

I mean I have a tank too, use it well, also an off tank, both DK's. Even I think the skill is skill-less and ridiculous. This is only one of countless things wrong with this game. But I'm going to focus here.

Asmael · October 2018

You can remove the root part.

...But only if you make it an AoE hard CC with up to 2 targets, add a 53% snare and Minor maim for 4 seconds.

Siohwenoeht · October 2018

Nope. Please see nb before requesting any nerfs to the most nerfed classes (dk, templar) in ESO history. I have usually tried to be civil before but, leave dks alone. After 3 years we are finally making progress. #nodknerfs

Moonsorrow · October 2018

chaz wrote: »

Sleep724 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

I got fossilized in the middle of a roll dodge just tonight.

I agree.

Its an undodgeable cc.

Finally the first one that said it.

WOW.

Thank you, yup it is UNDODGEABLE. And DK's spam it on you over and over. Wasting all your stam just bursting out of it. Can't dodge roll thru it or out of it, can't dodge roll out of it when the affect is over because you immediately get hit again. And it's UN-blockable.

I mean I have a tank too, use it well, also an off tank, both DK's. Even I think the skill is skill-less and ridiculous. This is only one of countless things wrong with this game. But I'm going to focus here.

And thats how a dk is supposed to be played, to lock you down.

And you want to change that what has been for years because a dk killed you apparently and your ego got hurt? Okay so if dk cc`s get nerfed.. then WHAT is dk supposed to be played like? Do you have an answer to that or did you just come here to ask a class to only loose one of its last defining skills?

jcm2606 · October 2018

DK needs an effective hard CC in order to function. Unlike most other classes, except maybe Templar, DK cannot do the current meta well at all, just due to how the class is built. The class is currently built as the hold-your-ground class, but the hold-your-ground playstyle has been dead for a long ass time, and can be countered by bleeds, oblivion damage, healing reduction, mobility, and the obscene amount of damage in the current meta.

Even just the fact that Petrify goes through dodge is needed, because there is nothing else a DK can do to lock a player down, otherwise. Roots and snares are countered with immunity, the other hard CC in the class is a ranged projectile, and hence can be dodged and reflected. And if a DK can't lock somebody down, then that DK can't do anything to them.

If you want Petrify to be adjusted, give DK something in return. Rework snares to remove the need for immunity to have PVP be playable, make the stand-your-ground playstyle actually viable. Until then, don't touch Petrify, otherwise DK is basically dead.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · October 2018

chaz wrote: »

Hello and good day.

So, here it is. If it hasn't been said already allow me to then to say The skill petrify and it's morphs need to be Nerfed. Where as once your get encased and break free, you should gain an immunity to it's affects for at least 5 seconds. Because, and I'll tell you why. If you haven't heard by now, this seems to be a common one button favorite for DK's and they love to spam it. A player should not be hit by it, breaks free and immediately gets encased again, ,,,, wash rinse repeat over and over.

So again, need the nerf on this particular skill so once players break free, they cannot be encased or immobilized again for at least a minimum or 5 seconds to give them a fair chance.

Thanks.

cc is broken at the mo and going after dk when it is the most nerfed class is unfair

LoveForElderScrolls · October 2018

It has been nerfed before. The range was decreased to 8 meters from 16 meters. This is probably the only dk skill that still works. They nerfed the dk so much that I'm changing to another class. Because of the huge amount of nerfs Dragonknights are broken now I mean guys like you broke them by crying so much. Have no doubt it will not get nerfed and you will have to watch all Dragonknights spam fossilize in your face for eternity because no other dk skill works for them to consider not using fossilize.

TheValar85 · October 2018

i wanna add some pluss.

Fix the fear bug from NB's.

Strip invincibilites from DK's

Nerf the poison arrows to at least 50%

gamerguy757 · October 2018

Lol!!! I love fossilize, and I hate getting it used on me. At least when you’re rooted you can still make attacks and heal and shield. So chill out

mr_wazzabi · October 2018

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Lol!!! I love fossilize, and I hate getting it used on me. At least when you’re rooted you can still make attacks and heal and shield. So chill out

This is true. I managed to kill a dk with an uppercut and reverse slice combo while rooted

ak_pvp · October 2018

@Chaz

Yo, OP. Can you clear up your comments please, because it is coming off messily.

" Where as once your get encased and break free, you should gain an immunity to it's affects for at least 5 seconds. Because, and I'll tell you why. If you haven't heard by now, this seems to be a common one button favorite for DK's and they love to spam it. A player should not be hit by it, breaks free and immediately gets encased again"

Are you complaining about fossilize is general, or the fact that the CC immunity isn't applied. Because it is not possible to spam it and stun repetitively... usually. There are occasions where CC immunity doesn't apply, this can happen with the DKs whip or leap, double CCing. This should be fixed

However, if you are on about the fossilize root, that is just a property of the skill. Then, the burden of counterplay is on you. Roll, prebuff with FM, shuffle (with unchained passive) mist, whatever.
There is a specific combo which is good for immobilization, talons, lash, fossilize lash. This root>CC>roots you. And is working as intended since launch (well, at launch you could infinite root anyway)

Remember though, DK is the control class (though others like NB and couple of patches ago sorc compared) as such it should have the stronger CCs. However, there are plenty of hard counters to roots, so with one FM, you can waste the root of both talons and foss. As it is melee, you can outrange, LOS (i.e. around a tree, or behind the DK) quite easily.
DK is slow, melee, has only med strength dots, and no execute. So DK finishing people is largely based around running them out of stamina.

ak_pvp · October 2018

Just a note copypasta'd from the other thread.
Nerfs are fine, if they come with subsequent buffs and rebalances. They are needed to stop power creep, and balance broken additions, etc.

I'd be fine losing the (admittedly occasionally cheesy, though also often useless) root on petrify for automatic offbalance so I can actually *** land my now dodgable, now costing, now shorter ranged easily preventable lash without having to spend 4-6k mag on a setup that can be stopped with a single button in 3 separate instances.
Then stamDK can also use it for truth and exploiter procs.

regime211 · October 2018

MetalHead4x4 wrote: »

Its true though. They lock you down, whip whip whip and you break free and roll only to get it applied to you immediately and they do it over and over. It's cancer. Some classes don't run immovable pots we need other pots on our Q button, we should have snare immunity for at least a small window of time as if you've "learned" from it. Like "Aha you're not catching me with that same thing twice."

Well start using immovable then.

regime211 · October 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

I got fossilized in the middle of a roll dodge just tonight.

I agree.

That's a learn to play issue.

Sevalaricgirl · October 2018

I am getting so tired of calling for nerfs. You PvP players don't like it, get the heck out. You are ruining the game for the PvE players.