But cliffracers do 6% more damage and this is YUMMY to me, almost never use bear, but is equipped=passive.

With this nerf guillotine coming, how are you fellow wardens preparing? Since it's extremely likely we're all on our own at this point.

I'm probably gonna have to drop double barred inner light in place for Birds of Prey and make do with the magicka pool I have without it. I don't know if the extra 40% increase from the netch is gonna be enough to keep up with less resource pool and higher cost of swarm.

The Bear actually hits really hard on live and it's ult on use is an execute which hits even harder on top of it only costing 75 ult .Not to mention it gained a 25% movement speed bonus in Wolf hunter dlc for a total of 50% movement bonus speed. All that aside the second Swipe animation can miss, which is one of it's big hitters(17kish + dps focused) where it stands up on its legs separate from the activated ult skill which is instant and pretty much follows the target.

I honestly can understand why it's getting a damage nerf with all the other stuff being buffed mostly cost reductions being the highlight for stam and partially magicka plus the betty netch resource buff as well. We have to also take into account the fact that pet's will pretty much be immune now which was if not the main factor the bear suffered from which was dying. The main bit though is that 30% is just overkill and really needs to be changed to something like 10-15%.

Another thing that has me a bit confused is that no updates are being made to the magicka morph for the bear. The only place that's going to be somewhat useful is pvp and really hardly anyone, if anyone for that matter uses the bear in pvp!?!?

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You all were upset at the thought of cutting down the power of your class ultimates. And rightfully so. As one user put it "they're called ultimates for a reason". So why oh why oh why is there no big outrage over the gutting of the Warden bear? We don't trouble anyone. And best believe that if it were Ballista, Dawnbreaker, Meteor , or any other signature ultimate being destroyed wardens would stand with you ALL in the united pushback against such foolishness. You don't have to like the bear, but PLEASE say something. Today it's wardens next patch it could and (likely) would be another class. (Remember how Templars were systematically pulled apart?) We are all paying customers and we should stand TOGETHER.

This just sets in stone, why I pretty much had it with the game, I try to step outside the box to have fun and zos comes and does these major nerfs like they always do, and constantly destroys the game, there is no such thing as balance in this game anymore, zos is dumbing it down for the newer players, I find it ridiculous. Funny I made a thread about warden bear which is fun to use and is powerful, but it has its negative draw backs, the bear needs to be worked on not nerfed. Smh thank you zos for really destroying this game.

How, "out of the box," did you think you'd gotten? Bear was the default DPS pick for most optomized warden DPS builds for PvE. On paper, the bear is still the best damage ult in the game. In practice it's still the best option for a Warden. This is a large part of why you see the things all over the place.