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PSA for fishermen leaving unfinished holes
LordSkyKnight
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If you guys are fishing a hole and finish for whatever reason such as catching the last fish on your list, please be kind and finish the hole completely so it respawns with a full load for the next person. It's a little aggravating to be on a hole and have it run dry prematurely after a couple catches. I get that sometimes stuff happens and you have to leave but clear out the hole if you can.
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EvilAutoTech✭✭✭✭✭
✭I always finish a hole. Even if someone shows up and starts fishing. Non Nords cannot be trusted.
Well, I suppose, Nords also cannot be trusted.Edited by EvilAutoTech on October 9, 2018 3:57PM0 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I had no idea this happened.
I guess that's the end of me fishing at all. I tend to decide to give it a go, catch 2 or 3 fish and remember how dull I find it and why I don't usually bother and then move on. If even that is enough to inconvenience anyone else and the only benefit to me is to remember why I don't like fishing I should really stop doing it at all.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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SilverIce58✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sometimes while fishing, I run out of bait. Can't very well blame me for that now can you? If I could finish the hole, I would.PC - NACP 1125
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Hippie4927✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I don't care if someone doesn't finish fishing the hole. If I only catch 3 fish, it is 3 more than I would have caught if the hole was inactive. And, one of those three could be a rare one.PC/NA/EP ✌️16 -
LordSkyKnight✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »I don't care if someone doesn't finish fishing the hole. If I only catch 3 fish, it is 3 more than I would have caught if the hole was inactive. And, one of those three could be a rare one.
You missed the point. If they clear it and you run up to it after respawn you will have 15 instead of three.
Edited by LordSkyKnight on October 9, 2018 4:58PM"And it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days. The fact that the word "monetized" exists points to the heart of the issue for us: We don't want the player to worry about which parts of the game to pay for - with our system, they get it all."
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JoMactheJSoul ShrivenI started Eso only a few months ago and haven't gotten around to looking into fishing in depth yet. Obvious as it is now, I didn't realize fishing holes were a node at all. Thanks for the psa0 -
BretonMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I've tended to fish once or twice, get bored and leave. It wasn't until very recently that I found out they only respawned after they were depleted. How many times are you supposed to fish at a spot before it runs out?0 -
Kagukan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hit a fishing hole once with only 1 cast left. Lucky for me it was a rare fish I caught.2 -
Hippie4927✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭LordSkyKnight wrote: »Hippie4927 wrote: »I don't care if someone doesn't finish fishing the hole. If I only catch 3 fish, it is 3 more than I would have caught if the hole was inactive. And, one of those three could be a rare one.
You missed the point. If they clear it and you run up to it after respawn you will have 15 instead of three.
I didn't miss your point, at all! But I COULD come up on it before it respawns and then I wouldn't have any fish. It just really doesn't matter to me. Fishing is my relaxing time after doing everything else and I can't get upset if the hole is not full. But that's just me.
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RedRook✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »LordSkyKnight wrote: »Hippie4927 wrote: »I don't care if someone doesn't finish fishing the hole. If I only catch 3 fish, it is 3 more than I would have caught if the hole was inactive. And, one of those three could be a rare one.
You missed the point. If they clear it and you run up to it after respawn you will have 15 instead of three.
I didn't miss your point, at all! But I COULD come up on it before it respawns and then I wouldn't have any fish. It just really doesn't matter to me. Fishing is my relaxing time after doing everything else and I can't get upset if the hole is not full. But that's just me.
Same here. I can't imagine giving a crap about my fishing hole only having seven fish instead of fifteen, so I never thought twice about leaving before completing the node.
sigh
Ok. Sorry, didn't know it was a problem, I'll do better.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭LordSkyKnight wrote: »If you guys are fishing a hole and finish for whatever reason such as catching the last fish on your list, please be kind and finish the hole completely so it respawns with a full load for the next person. It's a little aggravating to be on a hole and have it run dry prematurely after a couple catches. I get that sometimes stuff happens and you have to leave but clear out the hole if you can.
No. If I have spent 3 hours fishing for a single fish and I finally get it, I am done and in no way am I continuing to fish pointlessly.7 -
bearbelly✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sorry, if I get three used baits in a row, I'm leaving. I don't carry an unlimited amount of bait to waste on complete trash.
Plus, I didn't realize that even the freaking fishing holes worked that way.
Unless, like in the chest debate of the last few days, just as soon as I say that I find out that the hole re-spawns regardless of whether it is emptied?0 -
Hateanthem✭✭✭✭Sorry, if I get three used baits in a row, I'm leaving. I don't carry an unlimited amount of bait to waste on complete trash.
Plus, I didn't realize that even the freaking fishing holes worked that way.
Unless, like in the chest debate of the last few days, just as soon as I say that I find out that the hole re-spawns regardless of whether it is emptied?
Pro Tip: If you get three used baits in a row, you are using the wrong kind of bait.
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Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well that's no fun. I only fished once and didn't know I was pissing people off. I won't do it again for sure.0 -
bearbelly✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Hateanthem wrote: »Sorry, if I get three used baits in a row, I'm leaving. I don't carry an unlimited amount of bait to waste on complete trash.
Plus, I didn't realize that even the freaking fishing holes worked that way.
Unless, like in the chest debate of the last few days, just as soon as I say that I find out that the hole re-spawns regardless of whether it is emptied?
Pro Tip: If you get three used baits in a row, you are using the wrong kind of bait.
Even if I landed fish prior to those three used baits?
I guess what I'm asking is, can you still catch fish at a particular hole if you happen to be using the wrong bait? Because that has happened at every hole I've encountered; I get a mix of fish and used bait.0 -
RedRook✭✭✭✭Hateanthem wrote: »Sorry, if I get three used baits in a row, I'm leaving. I don't carry an unlimited amount of bait to waste on complete trash.
Plus, I didn't realize that even the freaking fishing holes worked that way.
Unless, like in the chest debate of the last few days, just as soon as I say that I find out that the hole re-spawns regardless of whether it is emptied?
Pro Tip: If you get three used baits in a row, you are using the wrong kind of bait.
Even if I landed fish prior to those three used baits?
I guess what I'm asking is, can you still catch fish at a particular hole if you happen to be using the wrong bait? Because that has happened at every hole I've encountered; I get a mix of fish and used bait.
Yes. The first fish is just a friendly clue about what kind of water you're fishing (not always as obvious as it should be, but that was before they started labeling them!) and so what kind of bait you should use. Threw a bug part because you thought it was fresh water, you catch a longfin and realize you need to use worms, it's a saltwater spot.2 -
Xerikten✭✭✭✭I will stop leaving when people stop joining me. I don't need any rare fish when I am farming. now get off my lawn sonny.
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StormChaser3000✭✭✭✭✭
✭Usually I do fishing while waiting in the dungeon queue and teleport there with casts left. After I come back I always finish the hole if it's still there. Sometimes it's not there meaning that someone else finished it. Thus I never rage about 1-2 cast holes since I assume that there is a possibility that someone ported away just like me.5 -
bearbelly✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Hateanthem wrote: »Sorry, if I get three used baits in a row, I'm leaving. I don't carry an unlimited amount of bait to waste on complete trash.
Plus, I didn't realize that even the freaking fishing holes worked that way.
Unless, like in the chest debate of the last few days, just as soon as I say that I find out that the hole re-spawns regardless of whether it is emptied?
Pro Tip: If you get three used baits in a row, you are using the wrong kind of bait.
Even if I landed fish prior to those three used baits?
I guess what I'm asking is, can you still catch fish at a particular hole if you happen to be using the wrong bait? Because that has happened at every hole I've encountered; I get a mix of fish and used bait.
Yes. The first fish is just a friendly clue about what kind of water you're fishing (not always as obvious as it should be, but that was before they started labeling them!) and so what kind of bait you should use. Threw a bug part because you thought it was fresh water, you catch a longfin and realize you need to use worms, it's a saltwater spot.
Thanks for the info.
I guess it's possible that I guessed wrong at the three-used-baits hole; I don't remember what kind of hole it was, nor what kind of bait I was using.
But I will definitely read-up on how to fish properly in this game. Kind of humbling for a life-long IRL angler...2 -
Hateanthem✭✭✭✭Hateanthem wrote: »Sorry, if I get three used baits in a row, I'm leaving. I don't carry an unlimited amount of bait to waste on complete trash.
Plus, I didn't realize that even the freaking fishing holes worked that way.
Unless, like in the chest debate of the last few days, just as soon as I say that I find out that the hole re-spawns regardless of whether it is emptied?
Pro Tip: If you get three used baits in a row, you are using the wrong kind of bait.
Even if I landed fish prior to those three used baits?
I guess what I'm asking is, can you still catch fish at a particular hole if you happen to be using the wrong bait? Because that has happened at every hole I've encountered; I get a mix of fish and used bait.
Yes. The first fish is just a friendly clue about what kind of water you're fishing (not always as obvious as it should be, but that was before they started labeling them!) and so what kind of bait you should use. Threw a bug part because you thought it was fresh water, you catch a longfin and realize you need to use worms, it's a saltwater spot.
Thanks for the info.
I guess it's possible that I guessed wrong at the three-used-baits hole; I don't remember what kind of hole it was, nor what kind of bait I was using.
But I will definitely read-up on how to fish properly in this game. Kind of humbling for a life-long IRL angler...
Worms - Saltwater holes
Guts - Lake holes
Crawlers - Foul holes
Insect parts - River holes.
That's literally all you need to know to fish "properly" in this game. Oh, and you have to be prepared to be bored out of your mind the entire time.
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EvilAutoTech✭✭✭✭✭
✭Another thing I have noticed is that if you don't collect the used bait before switching to another bait type, you will still get the used bait with the right type of bait. So if you are not collecting the used bait, it's not really three in a row, but the same garbage as the last cast.
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bearbelly✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Hateanthem wrote: »Hateanthem wrote: »Sorry, if I get three used baits in a row, I'm leaving. I don't carry an unlimited amount of bait to waste on complete trash.
Plus, I didn't realize that even the freaking fishing holes worked that way.
Unless, like in the chest debate of the last few days, just as soon as I say that I find out that the hole re-spawns regardless of whether it is emptied?
Pro Tip: If you get three used baits in a row, you are using the wrong kind of bait.
Even if I landed fish prior to those three used baits?
I guess what I'm asking is, can you still catch fish at a particular hole if you happen to be using the wrong bait? Because that has happened at every hole I've encountered; I get a mix of fish and used bait.
Yes. The first fish is just a friendly clue about what kind of water you're fishing (not always as obvious as it should be, but that was before they started labeling them!) and so what kind of bait you should use. Threw a bug part because you thought it was fresh water, you catch a longfin and realize you need to use worms, it's a saltwater spot.
Thanks for the info.
I guess it's possible that I guessed wrong at the three-used-baits hole; I don't remember what kind of hole it was, nor what kind of bait I was using.
But I will definitely read-up on how to fish properly in this game. Kind of humbling for a life-long IRL angler...
Worms - Saltwater holes
Guts - Lake holes
Crawlers - Foul holes
Insect parts - River holes.
That's literally all you need to know to fish "properly" in this game. Oh, and you have to be prepared to be bored out of your mind the entire time.
Thanks, again.
That jogged my memory; I was using guts in a saltwater hole.0 -
Sevn✭✭✭✭✭
✭StormChaser3000 wrote: »Usually I do fishing while waiting in the dungeon queue and teleport there with casts left. After I come back I always finish the hole if it's still there. Sometimes it's not there meaning that someone else finished it. Thus I never rage about 1-2 cast holes since I assume that there is a possibility that someone ported away just like me.
This is exactly how it goes for me most times. While I don't find fishing particularly engaging it is a relaxing experience ingame while waiting for something else. Can't very well expect one to stay and finish the hole when our Q is ready. Quite frankly, I've never even thought twice about a hole I've come across with less than 15 and I'm grateful there is anything there at all.
It's not like other nodes, players aren't going to leave something good behind, just trash, but fishing can have one fish left or a few and you get perfect roe outta one or the last one is a rare one. Never am I upset, merely thankful. I do tons of fishing btw.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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✭✭✭✭✭Hateanthem wrote: »Sorry, if I get three used baits in a row, I'm leaving. I don't carry an unlimited amount of bait to waste on complete trash.
Plus, I didn't realize that even the freaking fishing holes worked that way.
Unless, like in the chest debate of the last few days, just as soon as I say that I find out that the hole re-spawns regardless of whether it is emptied?
Pro Tip: If you get three used baits in a row, you are using the wrong kind of bait.
Even if I landed fish prior to those three used baits?
I guess what I'm asking is, can you still catch fish at a particular hole if you happen to be using the wrong bait? Because that has happened at every hole I've encountered; I get a mix of fish and used bait.
Yes. The first fish is just a friendly clue about what kind of water you're fishing (not always as obvious as it should be, but that was before they started labeling them!) and so what kind of bait you should use. Threw a bug part because you thought it was fresh water, you catch a longfin and realize you need to use worms, it's a saltwater spot.
Thanks for the info.
I guess it's possible that I guessed wrong at the three-used-baits hole; I don't remember what kind of hole it was, nor what kind of bait I was using.
But I will definitely read-up on how to fish properly in this game. Kind of humbling for a life-long IRL angler...
A friend of mine wrote a really comprehensive fishing guide. http://deltiasgaming.com/2015/04/27/eso-fishing-guide/
"They respawn after ten minutes."
Not unless they changed things since I got master fisherman on two characters. I needed a saltwater blue fish as my last fish in one zone that only has four saltwater spots. They didn't spawn for a couple of hours so I gave up and tried again the next day. Next day checking them every few minutes they didn't spawn. Some spots spawn before you can finish the spot nearby so you can just hop back and forth. Some take a long long time to spawn, again unless changes have been made.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
Minyassa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Absolutely. It takes only a few minutes more, five tops if I'm paying attention, to finish fishing out a hole so that someone else does not spend an extra twenty minutes running around trying to find the new fishing hole spawn in some of these areas where they are super sparse. People leaving partially fished holes added a *lot* of time to some zones when I was doing my fishing achievements. You find a fishing hole in a zone where, say, foul water is extremely rare and you have to travel all the way across the map and sneak behind a world boss to reach it, and you get one cast and it goes away and then you have to travel all the way across the map again to try to find another. That's just thoughtless, really. It doesn't hurt anyone to be considerate.2 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I get that some are frustrated by "few left" and at times I've been one of them.
I also get that fishing can be a sorta relaxing way to wait for a group finder to finish, or for something else to "happen" (that you have no control over) so it's an option that can be enjoyable, and can inherently lead to "unfinished nodes".
So having been on both sides of the divide, and playing PC NA with addons, I try to remember that
1-If the node was still "respawning" I wouldn't have gotten anything.
2-Even a 1-result attempt tells my addon that there is/can be a fishing node here for future reference; so when I'm scanning the map thinking "where do I want to wander and fish" this will give me more info
3-Everything that doesn't go exactly my way in life is not a deliberate attempt to annoy me. And being a mature human being, I can choose my reaction. If I pay attention to myself.
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