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Take the servers down and fix them.

Krayl
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The incompetence of this company in being able to patch their game without breaking something else is STUNNING. This game has been out for YEARS yet it has all the problems that most MMO's only experience at launch.

You charge 100+ dollars for some dumb werewolf "house" that is just some terrain an artist spent 10 mins duplicating some trees on. Surely you can put some money into actually providing a stable server. But nope.
  • Bevik
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    Krayl wrote: »
    The incompetence of this company in being able to patch their game without breaking something else is STUNNING. This game has been out for YEARS yet it has all the problems that most MMO's only experience at launch.

    You charge 100+ dollars for some dumb werewolf "house" that is just some terrain an artist spent 10 mins duplicating some trees on. Surely you can put some money into actually providing a stable server. But nope.

    Been said many times they can't fix it. Engine and code are too outdated/messy.
    Edited by Bevik on October 7, 2018 9:35PM
  • VaranisArano
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    If it were that easy, they'd have done it already.
  • Banana
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    And move one closer to me :D
  • Danikat
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    Is this specifically a problem with the NA servers? (Or maybe console servers?) I'm on PC EU and I very rarely get disconnected and my ping and FPS is as good as in any other online game.

    Normally I'd assume it's because I have a decent PC and a very good internet connection (which I pay what feels like a small fortune to get) but so many people are certain the issues they're having are the fault of the servers and not their connection or anything in between. I assume at least some of them must know what they're talking about and have actually considered other possibilities. So that leads me to conclude I'm obviously connecting to different servers to them.
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  • Recremen
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    Please stop asking for a specific solution to something that you lack the technical experience to make recommendations on. "Taking down the servers" isn't going to solve your problems.
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  • Tonturri
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    Recremen wrote: »
    Please stop asking for a specific solution to something that you lack the technical experience to make recommendations on. "Taking down the servers" isn't going to solve your problems.

    To be fair, they said 'take the servers down and fix them'.
  • Krayl
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    Recremen wrote: »
    Please stop asking for a specific solution to something that you lack the technical experience to make recommendations on. "Taking down the servers" isn't going to solve your problems.

    Intimating that the customer is somehow culpable to diagnose a technical problem with a dysfunctional service they pay for in order restore that service to a functional state is absurd so I can only assume you're a trollolol. Some of us are just getting fed up with the fact that without fail the infinite load screens, broken group tools, and failing voice chat always creep back into the game.

    My suggestion was to take the server down and fix the problem ASAP instead of waiting for the next patch or update as ZOS tends to do. the game was basically unplayable half the weekend anyways.
  • Krayl
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Is this specifically a problem with the NA servers? (Or maybe console servers?) I'm on PC EU and I very rarely get disconnected and my ping and FPS is as good as in any other online game.

    Normally I'd assume it's because I have a decent PC and a very good internet connection (which I pay what feels like a small fortune to get) but so many people are certain the issues they're having are the fault of the servers and not their connection or anything in between. I assume at least some of them must know what they're talking about and have actually considered other possibilities. So that leads me to conclude I'm obviously connecting to different servers to them.

    This is an ongoing problem for the PS4 NA servers, I can't speak to any of the others. This is not just a handful of users being affected so it's not just an end user issue nor is it a new issue. It comes and goes and is an issue ZOS has acknowledged in the past but seems unable to provide a permanent solution for.
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    I'm from Mississippi and my home internet is TERRIBLE. I get kicked constantly and can't do nuffin. I swap to my 4g phone connection and play just fine. I haven't experienced any problems playing off of my 4g connection. It sucks that the only thing offered in my area is medium tier broadband and it sucks molag bals.
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    I'd agree if everyone was having the same issues, but clearly we are not as I also play on ps4NA with none of the issues that seem to plague you. Have I been disconnected? Sure, but it rarely happens. Lag? Sure, but most online games suffer from this as well.

    Is it selfish of players like me who would be upset at lost playtime? Most definitely, but no more selfish than those who are having problems and want everyone else to suffer along with them.
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  • p00tx
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Is this specifically a problem with the NA servers? (Or maybe console servers?) I'm on PC EU and I very rarely get disconnected and my ping and FPS is as good as in any other online game.

    Normally I'd assume it's because I have a decent PC and a very good internet connection (which I pay what feels like a small fortune to get) but so many people are certain the issues they're having are the fault of the servers and not their connection or anything in between. I assume at least some of them must know what they're talking about and have actually considered other possibilities. So that leads me to conclude I'm obviously connecting to different servers to them.

    This appears to be most prevalent on Console (I'm on Xbox NA) where Cyrodil is so laggy, you can barely move sometimes and no amount of button mashing will activate even a single one of your abilities and you are randomly thrust into a loading screen for no reason whatsoever until some kind soul in your group either sends out a "ready check" or trade spams you out of it again, if you're lucky. The unlucky ones remain in the screen until they're disconnected back to the Xbox dashboard, then usually log back into a dead toon in a keep now occupied by the group you were fighting before the 4-5 load screens won the fight for them. This happens whether you're currently being zerged down or standing alone in your alliance base keep.

    These are the experiences of myself and the vast majority of console PvPers, and I can promise you it's not on my end. My internet is absolutely stellar (as well as ridiculously expensive) and literally everything else in my home runs fabulously with no connection issues. I can be streaming Netflix on two different TVs, playing on a tablet, have 2 different Alexa devices going, and have 3 phones actively using the internet at once with zero slowing. I routinely run a full power cycle with router reset to make sure my connection stays clean, and my hardware is all in great condition with the most up to date technology.

    This is absolutely a server side issue.
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  • Androconium
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    Krayl wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    Please stop asking for a specific solution to something that you lack the technical experience to make recommendations on. "Taking down the servers" isn't going to solve your problems.

    Intimating that the customer is somehow culpable to diagnose a technical problem with a dysfunctional service they pay for in order restore that service to a functional state is absurd so I can only assume you're a trollolol. Some of us are just getting fed up with the fact that without fail the infinite load screens, broken group tools, and failing voice chat always creep back into the game.

    My suggestion was to take the server down and fix the problem ASAP instead of waiting for the next patch or update as ZOS tends to do. the game was basically unplayable half the weekend anyways.

    Firstly, everyone agrees that performance is bad.

    So, now to "the fix".

    Where do you think the problem lies?
    1. The operating system?
    2. The game engine?
    3. The hardware?

    If it's the operating system, then I doubt highly that ZOS built their own. This won't be someone else's problem to fix; it will ZOS' problem to work around. That means designing game code that works efficiently with the OS.

    If it's the game engine, then redesigning and recoding the game's core software will result, not in a 'dot-point' release; but a major version update. The letter "2" will appear at the beginning of any and every subsequent release code.
    Did you really want the servers taken down until then? No-one will agree to that.

    The hardware then. What hardware changes do you think might work?
    1. A different processor?
    2. A different motherboard concept (assuming that it's not that simple..)?
    3. More RAM?
    4. A different mechanism to control disk usage?
    5. A different operating system?

    As you get further down this last list, the word 'hardware' then blurs into 'firmware' meaning that any and all hardware solutions of any nature are heavily dependent on the capability of the Operating System. THE limiting factor.

    Many long-term players complain about the introduction of One Tamriel.

    I now agree with them, in as far as this was a marketing decision that did not fully appreciate the technical consequences. If the consequences were understood, then they were ignored.

    The solution that I see will work for you, therefore, is not to spend $100 on a house.
    Take your $100 and spend it somewhere else; or save it for ESO V2.0.
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