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Spin2win Spam in BGs needs to Stop
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RexyCat✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
Use interrupt instead. Lay down Mines or use destro stun/nock back skill.0 -
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You don't understand, your average PvPer doesn't want to adapt, he/she wants his/her build to be superior to others. If it were up to me, I would remove all sets from PvP.ConeOfSilence wrote: »Instead of learning to counter how about just jumping on the forum and QQ for a nerf. Haven't you nerf ppl ruined PvE builds enough for one month, give it a rest already and LtP.1 -
shaielzafine✭✭✭✭✭Ugh. I ran into a stamsorc that was moving so fast in circles around me while spamming steel tornado, I couldn't even target him using templar's puncturing sweeps or other skills. The spin 2 win spam isESO guide to winning: Battlegrounds Edition
- Be a stamsorc
- Run clever + bp + balorgh + 3 swift
- Identify the unsuspecting nub that will indoubtedly fall before your might
- Proceed pop an immovable potion and run in hot with hurricane and blade cloak
- Dawnbreaker them back to the ice age
- Spam steel tornado and watch entire teams die within seconds
I hope the instructions are clear. We don't need to get toasters involved.
Enjoy!
Ugh. I ran into a stamsorc that was moving so fast in circles around me while spamming steel tornado, I couldn't even target him using templar's puncturing sweeps or other skills. The spin2win and snipe / focused aim spam is literally in every BG match.0 -
Delimber✭✭✭✭Since we're on the topic of nerfing....lets cut down how long Eclipse and its morphs last...jk
I'll admit though, I do like using it as I know how annoying it is to be in that bubble on my other builds.
Like they say, if you can't beat them, join them.
Solo PvP and PvE most of the time.
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✭the issue is stupid amounts of outgoing aoe passive damage along with a passive execute. hurricane and implosion are dumb.Gryphon Heart
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✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.
So again, I shouldn’t expect to play my sorc in anything other than Deathmatch. No land capture BGs whatsoever. Gotcha.
I wreck everything on my magblade. I can't use cloak on Flags, Relic capture, Chaosball. Do you hear me complain? If you can't fight melee opponents, that 100% on you.
You probably fear your melee opponents though, don’t you?
I don’t. I’ve never had a problem packing up melee opponents on my magade, but from your posts in this thread, it sounds like you do. Learn to play.
I know how to play. I don’t currently have a problem with spin to win melee builds, because I can use my shields. After Murkmire? Yeah, it’ll be a problem.
You can't take everything out of the game because shields took a hit.
Heck the soft evasion and expedition changes affect stam players as bad.
I don’t want to take everything out of the game. I want to be able to defend myself. Shields are mag sorc’s primary defence.
Then that has nothing to do with steel tornado does it?
Push for shield change revision.
Personally never used shields and survive just fine.
Actually, it does have something to do with Steel Tornado. A mag sorc against a spin to win spammer will basically be deleted after Murkmire in anything other than a Deathmatch. Steel Tornado is already extremely strong (it’s why it’s known as the BG meta). When classes that rely on shields for defence are subjected to crit hits on shields and health-capped shields, it will be extremely easy for stam classes to get them into execute range and just spam ST a few times.
You mentioned BG but non cp shields are never bigger than 8k anyway
Your shield size should not change unless you have build 50k magicka in no cp in such case adaptation will be required
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Morgul667✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Spin2win per se could be nerfed if it wasnt the only thing that kills nightblades and if snipe was not bugged
But honestly id rather buff others than nerf the strong things all the time
We should stop calling for nerfs of things we see on our death recaps1 -
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✭✭I will stop spinning when sorcerers stop wrathing, nigthblades stop cloaking, DKs stop whipping, wardens stop scotching and templars stop all that damn healing.Edited by Hotdog_23 on October 7, 2018 1:45PM1 -
boombazookajd✭✭✭✭✭*pvp hate intensifies*Edited by boombazookajd on October 7, 2018 1:48PMDrathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion
Scrubs:
Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter
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Zer0oo✭✭✭✭✭
✭hey an undodgeable aoe that almost hits as hard as a single target skill and is an execute sounds balanced
- Update 23Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus1 -
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✭Been playing bgs since they came out although, I’ve slowed down drastically. Have close to 1,000 wins playing predominantly solo. Spin to win was okay win it wasn’t meta and everyone was running around with 2h but now it’s absolutely ridiculous. Next update evasion will help but don’t know if it’ll be enough to change anything.
Right now spin to win is toxic in bgs and I’m pretty sure any decent player that has been playing can acknowledge that.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »Been playing bgs since they came out although, I’ve slowed down drastically. Have close to 1,000 wins playing predominantly solo. Spin to win was okay win it wasn’t meta and everyone was running around with 2h but now it’s absolutely ridiculous. Next update evasion will help but don’t know if it’ll be enough to change anything.
Right now spin to win is toxic in bgs and I’m pretty sure any decent player that has been playing can acknowledge that.
Precisely. I feel like the people who don’t see the problems with Steel Tornado spam simply don’t play enough BGs, or are only playing low MMR skirmishes with people who don’t know what they’re doing.
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✭✭✭✭✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »Been playing bgs since they came out although, I’ve slowed down drastically. Have close to 1,000 wins playing predominantly solo. Spin to win was okay win it wasn’t meta and everyone was running around with 2h but now it’s absolutely ridiculous. Next update evasion will help but don’t know if it’ll be enough to change anything.
Right now spin to win is toxic in bgs and I’m pretty sure any decent player that has been playing can acknowledge that.
Precisely. I feel like the people who don’t see the problems with Steel Tornado spam simply don’t play enough BGs, or are only playing low MMR skirmishes with people who don’t know what they’re doing.
Or they realize that there are various skills in the game which can kill them and learn how to mitigate and play against those skills instead of crying for nerfs because their favorite op skill got nerfed.3 -
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✭✭Facefister wrote: »
You don't understand, your average PvPer doesn't want to adapt, he/she wants his/her build to be superior to others. If it were up to me, I would remove all sets from PvP.ConeOfSilence wrote: »Instead of learning to counter how about just jumping on the forum and QQ for a nerf. Haven't you nerf ppl ruined PvE builds enough for one month, give it a rest already and LtP.
And their builds are CRAPPY or something they copy pasted lol. They deserve to die and Rez out and all those humiliating Kill Counter remarks in chat hehehehe0 -
JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭hey an undodgeable aoe that almost hits as hard as a single target skill and is an execute sounds balanced
It only hits hard if you are on execute range. It’s really too costly to actually spam. It’s high cost and relative ineffectiveness when the target is at high health makes it balanced already.
Slot resource poisons against ANY stam player and they take of running (I think they call it line of sighting lol). “However, resource poisons are OP. Resource poisons need a nerf (and are getting one). Only scrubs slot resource poisons, etc etc.”
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✭✭boombazookajd wrote: »*pvp hate intensifies*
PvP is the reason why no class is unique and the majority of the sets are useless. Something fun and unique is being implemented on the PTS? 7 threads about how OP it could be in PvP and how it does need a nerf.0 -
lucky_dutch✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »hey an undodgeable aoe that almost hits as hard as a single target skill and is an execute sounds balanced
It only hits hard if you are on execute range. It’s really too costly to actually spam. It’s high cost and relative ineffectiveness when the target is at high health makes it balanced already.
Slot resource poisons against ANY stam player and they take of running (I think they call it line of sighting lol). “However, resource poisons are OP. Resource poisons need a nerf (and are getting one). Only scrubs slot resource poisons, etc etc.”
That's not really true. It hits hard enough considering it's unavoidable especially considering it's usually combined with other damage sources like hurricane or shalks.
What it really needs is a cost increase so blocking it becomes a viable option. The problem they have is that this is a PvE nerf too which I can't imagine they want to do.0 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭ESO guide to winning: Battlegrounds Edition
- Be a stamsorc
- Run clever + bp + balorgh + 3 swift
- Identify the unsuspecting nub that will indoubtedly fall before your might
- Proceed pop an immovable potion and run in hot with hurricane and blade cloak
- Dawnbreaker them back to the ice age
- Spam steel tornado and watch entire teams die within seconds
I hope the instructions are clear. We don't need to get toasters involved.
Enjoy!
A game of skill and breveryI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations0 -
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✭✭✭✭THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »Spamming one Button and winning the Match...so braindead
Given the amount of threads that you have opened regarding nerfing other classes, dying in pvp etc. I think it might be more productive if you show us your build and show how you died instead of saying something is broken. Maybe we all can help3 -
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✭THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »Spamming one Button and winning the Match...so braindead
You better learn to Bob and weave lol0 -
Lutallo✭✭✭Not sure who thought an AoE execute would be a good idea.
Give me Hindu god 8-arm Jesus Beam pls."Rock is too OP, please nerf"
Sincerely, Scissors.2 -
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✭✭✭✭OP currently has 3 threads on the front page crying about something. I suspect the problem lies not in game skills, but in player skills.5
