Hello! My name is Jimmy and I leave chests open!

Salvas_Aren · October 2018

phairdon wrote: »

Players miss out on experience points & legerdemain or whatever its called.

If they open chests by hand it's actually both.

Not to mention that good stuff may be found at an awkward level.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · October 2018

I just read the title...welcome to my ignore list.
@Snaekd also you speak of good manners and all that yet u are complaining when others call you names for not picking up your things? guess what if you decide to leave stuff in to a chest you block the despawn/respawn rates for over an hour also if you leave stuff there means you don't want it thus going in to the category of garbage and trash so you are expecting others to come and pick up/clean up after you and do it for free and be happy about it? speaking about hypocrisy...you want to penalize people for bad behavior? good that is awesome...then start with yourself and pick up your trash cuz we are not your personal trash disposal team.

phairdon · October 2018

Hippie4927 wrote: »

OrdoHermetica wrote: »

People who leave garbage in chests are almost as bad as people who specifically wait for you to be fighting the mobs near a chest and then steal the chest from you.

Honestly, a lot of this could be improved through instancing chests. Just sayin'. Other games do it, and it works fine.

How 'bout the double whammy? Today some dude took the chest while I fought the enemies AND left the garbage he didn't want! Times like that I wish we had open world PVP!

This happened to me in delves. Try to open a chest. Enemy npc's spawn and attack. Another player arrives at the same time and opens the chest. Not much you can do.

Snaekd · October 2018

prof-dracko wrote: »

Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.

D0PAMINE · October 2018

Or maybe ZoS could make the chest despawn after like 20 seconds. This isn't even an issue, they respawn in the same amount of time reguardless and if it was fully looted, you wouldn't even see it there, so you wouldn't have gotten the items anyway. People can loot what they like, because thats how the system is, because auto loot is off by default.

Judas Helviaryn · October 2018

prof-dracko wrote: »

Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

Most of the entitled types would be annoyed, and automatically assume something of greater value were already removed from the chest.

Seeing as how unlocked chests disappear after exactly ten minutes, and seeing as how we cannot test whether that prevents another chest from spawning for the ten minute duration, OR all chests have a ten minute cool down between disappearing and spawning in another location, regardless of the initial chest's status, I'm not particularly bothered by finding, nor leaving, half filled chests behind.

So hi. I'm Judas, and I leave open chests out in the world. Come, enragement child, I shall accept your feelings unequivocally and with due love and support.

(Not meant towards my quotee here.)

Xerikten · October 2018

I like it when you share your loot with me. it is free gold and I don't loose a lock pick to get it. I also like those that skip simple chests as I have made hundreds of thousands of gold turning those rare green staves/gear to purple and selling them. got three mothers sorrow fire staves last week and made 80k each.

yes thank you very much. karma is smiling at me and has farted on you.

Rohamad_Ali · October 2018

I will leave you the white inferno staff then .

yodased · October 2018

How does anyone still complain about this. The chest will spawn another locked chest in the same amount of time as if they took everything.

You are getting upset at something that doesnt even exist.

If you see a chest and its unlocked, do not touch it or you will reset the timer.

You know whats going to be in there, just calm down and breathe, then remember this isnt your game and no one has to even consider your feelings in their play time.

You are not entitled to that chest being locked with quality items in it no more than anyo else is required to take the garbage in it.

Beyond that, by interacting with that chest and leaving the same items in it, 6ou are committing the same "crime".

SaxonCrusader · October 2018

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

SaxonCrusader wrote: »

Snaekd wrote: »

There's being annoyed, and then there's having a breakdown over the internet.

And I tried to sound the least salty I only can be, didn't even mean to be offensive.
Mind that English isn't quite my native language — the only cherry-picking of words took me around half an hour. I have only wanted to leave a suggestion. Also, I don't drink at all.

I wouldn't say salty, I'd say sugar rush ×2000. And given English ain't your first language it ain't that bad, so kudos for being decent at the most broken European language.

Your English ,however is terrible.

Damn! You must've found out I'm a mate of Hermaeus Vodka!

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · October 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

I typically say something in zone chat like "Hey, heres a [Rubedite Sword of Flame] looking for its owner who left it in a chest!"

Because if you are CP 160+, you ought to be able to have enough inventory spaces to not leave trash in chests or worms in flowers.

And don't whine about ESO+. I don't have ESO+ and I manage to pick up everything. Not picking up your trash is just making a deliberate choice to be a selfish jerk.

funny however since worms market rose to heaven that people still ignore this...

Salvas_Aren · October 2018

SaxonCrusader wrote: »

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

SaxonCrusader wrote: »

Snaekd wrote: »

There's being annoyed, and then there's having a breakdown over the internet.

And I tried to sound the least salty I only can be, didn't even mean to be offensive.
Mind that English isn't quite my native language — the only cherry-picking of words took me around half an hour. I have only wanted to leave a suggestion. Also, I don't drink at all.

I wouldn't say salty, I'd say sugar rush ×2000. And given English ain't your first language it ain't that bad, so kudos for being decent at the most broken European language.

Your English ,however is terrible.

Damn! You must've found out I'm a mate of Hermaeus Vodka!

Or Hermione Stranger.

ATomiX96 · October 2018

people who make threads like these are the ones that get offended by anything irl ... smh get a grip. its a *** game, you cant force people to do anything they dont want to.

Cadbury · October 2018

Who's Jimmy?

Snaekd · October 2018

For some reason my first post, which I meant to be a friendly and at the very least decent one, turned into a "beat the newbie" competition. Few people replied to the exact meaning of it, but the others? Come on, this is exactly what I didn't want to look like here.

I've been farming in the most popular zones - Bankorai, Deshaan and Rivenspire, always looting my stuff, never leaving an open chest behind — not even if my eventory was full. I've been doing that for quite a while now, not a single time did I complain about people leaving trash — it's not pleasant to find 5 half-empty chests in a row, but what can you do. And today I met an excessively edgy kid and this issue drawed my attention — what could be done that neither me, nor anybody else had to see unlooted chests all over the zone.

Punishing people does sound bad indeed, with this I agree, I simply didn't see a better solution for the issue at that moment.
On the contrary, fiddling with respawn timers seems to be a better idea. Times and times better one, in fact.

VaranisArano · October 2018

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

prof-dracko wrote: »

Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

Most of the entitled types would be annoyed, and automatically assume something of greater value were already removed from the chest.

Seeing as how unlocked chests disappear after exactly ten minutes, and seeing as how we cannot test whether that prevents another chest from spawning for the ten minute duration, OR all chests have a ten minute cool down between disappearing and spawning in another location, regardless of the initial chest's status, I'm not particularly bothered by finding, nor leaving, half filled chests behind.

So hi. I'm Judas, and I leave open chests out in the world. Come, enragement child, I shall accept your feelings unequivocally and with due love and support.

(Not meant towards my quotee here.)

Well, the exp was certainly already removed along with the Legerdemain experience. So no, its not helpful to just unlock a chest and leave it.

I'll take some of that unequivocal love and support, because I do think that people deliberately leaving trash in chests are selfish jerks. Its not hard to manage your inventory so you dont have to leave trash behind even without ESO+, but it does take making courtesy to your fellow players a priority.

Charliff1966 · October 2018

Hippie4927 wrote: »

OrdoHermetica wrote: »

People who leave garbage in chests are almost as bad as people who specifically wait for you to be fighting the mobs near a chest and then steal the chest from you.

Honestly, a lot of this could be improved through instancing chests. Just sayin'. Other games do it, and it works fine.

How 'bout the double whammy? Today some dude took the chest while I fought the enemies AND left the garbage he didn't want! Times like that I wish we had open world PVP!

It's not your chest until you open it.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · October 2018

Snaekd wrote: »

For some reason my first post, which I meant to be a friendly and at the very least decent one, turned into a "beat the newbie" competition. Few people replied to the exact meaning of it, but the others? Come on, this is exactly what I didn't want to look like here.

I've been farming in the most popular zones - Bankorai, Deshaan and Rivenspire, always looting my stuff, never leaving an open chest behind — not even if my eventory was full. I've been doing that for quite a while now, not a single time did I complain about people leaving trash — it's not pleasant to find 5 half-empty chests in a row, but what can you do. And today I met an excessively edgy kid and this issue drawed my attention — what could be done that neither me, nor anybody else had to see unlooted chests all over the zone.

Punishing people does sound bad indeed, with this I agree, I simply didn't see a better solution for the issue at that moment.
On the contrary, fiddling with respawn timers seems to be a better idea. Times and times better one, in fact.

@Snaekd I wonder for how long do you actually deal with this? cuz im dealing with this since beta and guess what? it doesnt get easier also that's just you I for example cant stand people who leave trash in chests...besides there is an easy way to punish this...open world pvp so you find them and brutalize them...I always meet and see those who do this so my only regret and actual way of punishment for those is the blade in the back.

VaranisArano · October 2018

Charliff1966 wrote: »

Hippie4927 wrote: »

OrdoHermetica wrote: »

People who leave garbage in chests are almost as bad as people who specifically wait for you to be fighting the mobs near a chest and then steal the chest from you.

Honestly, a lot of this could be improved through instancing chests. Just sayin'. Other games do it, and it works fine.

How 'bout the double whammy? Today some dude took the chest while I fought the enemies AND left the garbage he didn't want! Times like that I wish we had open world PVP!

It's not your chest until you open it.

How desperate do you have to be to grab a chest from someone who's fighting the mobs guarding it?

I mean, I understand taking it while someone's fighting the mobs nearby, but if you can't get that chest without normally aggroing the mobs...that's just low.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · October 2018

@VaranisArano depend what people are farming...idk about you but lets say they farm mothers sorrow staves? well that's an 80k+ per item so yeah im pretty sure greed>everything else especially for people who don't have money...and im doing the same even though im far from poor or anything...idk but when it comes to gold the only rule is that I get the most of it no matter what

Hippie4927 · October 2018

Charliff1966 wrote: »

Hippie4927 wrote: »

OrdoHermetica wrote: »

People who leave garbage in chests are almost as bad as people who specifically wait for you to be fighting the mobs near a chest and then steal the chest from you.

Honestly, a lot of this could be improved through instancing chests. Just sayin'. Other games do it, and it works fine.

How 'bout the double whammy? Today some dude took the chest while I fought the enemies AND left the garbage he didn't want! Times like that I wish we had open world PVP!

It's not your chest until you open it.

And if you're going to be a jerk and take the chest while someone is fighting the enemies right by the chest, then at least take what is in it. Don't leave the junk......it just makes you a bigger jerk!

D0PAMINE · October 2018

Hippie4927 wrote: »

Charliff1966 wrote: »

Hippie4927 wrote: »

OrdoHermetica wrote: »

People who leave garbage in chests are almost as bad as people who specifically wait for you to be fighting the mobs near a chest and then steal the chest from you.

Honestly, a lot of this could be improved through instancing chests. Just sayin'. Other games do it, and it works fine.

How 'bout the double whammy? Today some dude took the chest while I fought the enemies AND left the garbage he didn't want! Times like that I wish we had open world PVP!

It's not your chest until you open it.

And if you're going to be a jerk and take the chest while someone is fighting the enemies right by the chest, then at least take what is in it. Don't leave the junk......it just makes you a bigger jerk!

Thats why I just avoid chests when someone is in the area. I shoot staff or bow attacks to show them where it is if they want it, and I do the same for nodes in any zone. Im at the point in this game where if I need anything, even super expensive weapons or gear, a friend just gives it to me and I do the same for them.

Judas Helviaryn · October 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

prof-dracko wrote: »

Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

Most of the entitled types would be annoyed, and automatically assume something of greater value were already removed from the chest.

Seeing as how unlocked chests disappear after exactly ten minutes, and seeing as how we cannot test whether that prevents another chest from spawning for the ten minute duration, OR all chests have a ten minute cool down between disappearing and spawning in another location, regardless of the initial chest's status, I'm not particularly bothered by finding, nor leaving, half filled chests behind.

So hi. I'm Judas, and I leave open chests out in the world. Come, enragement child, I shall accept your feelings unequivocally and with due love and support.

(Not meant towards my quotee here.)

Well, the exp was certainly already removed along with the Legerdemain experience. So no, its not helpful to just unlock a chest and leave it.

I'll take some of that unequivocal love and support, because I do think that people deliberately leaving trash in chests are selfish jerks. Its not hard to manage your inventory so you dont have to leave trash behind even without ESO+, but it does take making courtesy to your fellow players a priority.

The issue is that people aren't due what they define as courtesy, or indeed due courtesy at all. Courtesy itself, by nature, is never a requirement at any level, including societal. That is the prime difference between a courtesy, and an obligation.

It is up to the potentially courteous to determine whether the social good-will they would receive is worth the inconvenience they levy onto their own playtime, and in my case, I expect people to act as I do in a video game. That is, to clarify, to take it easily and not be worked up over an arguably minute facet of the game as a whole.

To be an adult, and to be responsible for your own fun and engagement, both of which are standards you set, and not others.

Of course, one might also argue that the game, in its entirety, is PVP. That would include jockeying for resources, in which case entitlement again is thrown out the window in the interest of sport, but I'm not so hyper-competitive that I do this out of any sense of sportsmanship, or even ill-will, which doesn't belong in sporting circles to begin with.

I hope this has been supportive enough, because explaining this side of this dubious issue is my own courtesy to you.

Androconium · October 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

prof-dracko wrote: »

Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

Most of the entitled types would be annoyed, and automatically assume something of greater value were already removed from the chest.

Seeing as how unlocked chests disappear after exactly ten minutes, and seeing as how we cannot test whether that prevents another chest from spawning for the ten minute duration, OR all chests have a ten minute cool down between disappearing and spawning in another location, regardless of the initial chest's status, I'm not particularly bothered by finding, nor leaving, half filled chests behind.

So hi. I'm Judas, and I leave open chests out in the world. Come, enragement child, I shall accept your feelings unequivocally and with due love and support.

(Not meant towards my quotee here.)

Well, the exp was certainly already removed along with the Legerdemain experience. So no, its not helpful to just unlock a chest and leave it.

I'll take some of that unequivocal love and support, because I do think that people deliberately leaving trash in chests are selfish jerks. Its not hard to manage your inventory so you dont have to leave trash behind even without ESO+, but it does take making courtesy to your fellow players a priority.

^^^^ This.

It won't get fixed. It adds to your in-game time spent harvesting. More of your subscription time wasted.

Troneon · October 2018

I do not do this but blame zos...

They could of put in a GW2 system where even if you loot a node everyone else still see's a node that is not looted, shared nodes basically, but they did not do this. We know it's in the game and possible in some circumstances like in instances for example shared dungeon chests...but not in open zones. Why ZOS not do this like other games when it's already in their game? ....

Then you have the inventory management online problem where because this game is artificially "on purpose" flooded with insane amounts of sets and items, event items etc etc etc to get people to purchase more storage through crowns and get ESO PLUS ....even with full house storage, max bags/bank and eso plus YOU STILL RUN OUT OF SPACE....

Do ZOS attempt to solve any of these issue? Nope.

VaranisArano · October 2018

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

prof-dracko wrote: »

Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

Most of the entitled types would be annoyed, and automatically assume something of greater value were already removed from the chest.

Seeing as how unlocked chests disappear after exactly ten minutes, and seeing as how we cannot test whether that prevents another chest from spawning for the ten minute duration, OR all chests have a ten minute cool down between disappearing and spawning in another location, regardless of the initial chest's status, I'm not particularly bothered by finding, nor leaving, half filled chests behind.

So hi. I'm Judas, and I leave open chests out in the world. Come, enragement child, I shall accept your feelings unequivocally and with due love and support.

(Not meant towards my quotee here.)

Well, the exp was certainly already removed along with the Legerdemain experience. So no, its not helpful to just unlock a chest and leave it.

I'll take some of that unequivocal love and support, because I do think that people deliberately leaving trash in chests are selfish jerks. Its not hard to manage your inventory so you dont have to leave trash behind even without ESO+, but it does take making courtesy to your fellow players a priority.

The issue is that people aren't due what they define as courtesy, or indeed due courtesy at all. Courtesy itself, by nature, is never a requirement at any level, including societal. That is the prime difference between a courtesy, and an obligation.

It is up to the potentially courteous to determine whether the social good-will they would receive is worth the inconvenience they levy onto their own playtime, and in my case, I expect people to act as I do in a video game. That is, to clarify, to take it easily and not be worked up over an arguably minute facet of the game as a whole.

To be an adult, and to be responsible for your own fun and engagement, both of which are standards you set, and not others.

Of course, one might also argue that the game, in its entirety, is PVP. That would include jockeying for resources, in which case entitlement again is thrown out the window in the interest of sport, but I'm not so hyper-competitive that I do this out of any sense of sportsmanship, or even ill-will, which doesn't belong in sporting circles to begin with.

I hope this has been supportive enough, because explaining this side of this dubious issue is my own courtesy to you.

Okay.

So, yeah, no one is required to be courteous.

Thats kinda the whole point of courtesy.

Its not required. You do it, because its polite, because its kind, because it's the right thing to do. Especially when you know that doing otherwise is an inconvenience for others.

I'm not going to require anyone to be courteous. I will, however, notice when people choose not to be. And I will think that person is an inconsiderate jerk.

If you don't care what I think, cool. Go on with your day, blithe spirit, without consideration for your fellow players.

If you do care, well, a little common courtesy is all it takes.

StamWhipCultist · October 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

SaxonCrusader wrote: »

Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.

OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.

Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.

But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.

yeah, they should be game ended, not punished.

prof-dracko · October 2018

I remember one time in Rivenspire I was fighting a troll to get the chest behind him when someone ran past and started unlocking it. I felt petty, so I let myself die, the troll immediately agroed to them, then I took it back while he was busy fighting. Felt so satisfying.

Megatto · October 2018

I always discriminate against people in-game by throwing mud at them, for wearing costumes and hats, or for being weak as hell or running away from mobs. It's a great stress reliever. Makes me feel like I throw muddy balls of justice at the peasants.

*throws mudball*

jwjackson5674 · October 2018

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

I just read the title...welcome to my ignore list.
@Snaekd also you speak of good manners and all that yet u are complaining when others call you names for not picking up your things? guess what if you decide to leave stuff in to a chest you block the despawn/respawn rates for over an hour also if you leave stuff there means you don't want it thus going in to the category of garbage and trash so you are expecting others to come and pick up/clean up after you and do it for free and be happy about it? speaking about hypocrisy...you want to penalize people for bad behavior? good that is awesome...then start with yourself and pick up your trash cuz we are not your personal trash disposal team.

I think you misinterpreted his post. He was not the one leaving things in chests. He want's people who do to be punished in game.