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Spin2win Spam in BGs needs to Stop
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Hamrb✭✭✭✭Couldn’t one healer counter this?Founder of Sheogorath's Mortals NA PC
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I just lol when someone runs a speed build running through me spamming spin to win while I have trouble hitting them with dizzying swing.Edited by Aliyavana on October 6, 2018 2:18AM12 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭When I use my skills to kill an enemy, it's a fearsome strike from a warrior of incredible prowess.
When someone else uses their skills to kill me, it's a cheap shot from a no-talent hack.41 -
Rukia541✭✭✭✭✭You ever wonder why people sit bow or spam aoe ? Well for me it's the god awful targeting in melee and everyone runs around like they just did a [snip]. Sometimes it's the only way to hit anything LOL. So no, it doesn't need to stop, it isn't the problem but a solution to another problem.
[Edit for inappropriate remark.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on October 6, 2018 7:49PM8 -
SHADOW2KK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »Spamming one Button and winning the Match...so braindead
So is whining for nerfs, instead of using your brain to adapt and conquerOnce I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.
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MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ESO guide to winning: Battlegrounds Edition
- Be a stamsorc
- Run clever + bp + balorgh + 3 swift
- Identify the unsuspecting nub that will indoubtedly fall before your might
- Proceed pop an immovable potion and run in hot with hurricane and blade cloak
- Dawnbreaker them back to the ice age
- Spam steel tornado and watch entire teams die within seconds
I hope the instructions are clear. We don't need to get toasters involved.
Enjoy!
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Banana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESO guide to winning: Battlegrounds Edition
- Be a stamsorc
- Run clever + bp + balorgh + 3 swift
- Identify the unsuspecting nub that will indoubtedly fall before your might
- Proceed pop an immovable potion and run in hot with hurricane and blade cloak
- Dawnbreaker them back to the ice age
- Spam steel tornado and watch entire teams die within seconds
I hope the instructions are clear. We don't need to get toasters involved.
Enjoy!
That sounds familiar4 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Use increase stamina cost poisons. That'll cut down on spinning ballerinas of cheesy death by a bit.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!6 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »Use increase stamina cost poisons. That'll cut down on spinning ballerinas of cheesy death by a bit.
Thought this was standard.
Haven't been in a BG yet where players weren't using cost drain poisons.
If someone is just spamming ST over and over and over in BG's, something isn't right.
There's no cp, so recovery is low and the skill is expensive, even with Bone Pirate.
And if you're a ranged class getting hit, that's on you. You're either trying to use Eye of Flame/Storm, Permafrost, or trying to proc Grothdarr or something. You get in close, you deserve to get hit by stuff...simple as that.
Stop asking to nerf things because it kills you. That's what needs to stop here...Edited by Kel on October 6, 2018 9:06AM8 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Anything that favors build over player skill I'm not a fan of; therefore I agree, the spin to win is quite lame.3 -
Thogard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'd be all for nerfing spin2win if there weren't so many pesky nightblades around.
As it is now, spin2win stacking is just the stam version of destro ult stacking, with the difference being that the spin2win stacks can't do other mvoes simultaneously
the FM nerf will also seriously hinder spin2win builds
the shuffle change to mitigate AOE dmg will also seriously hinder spin2win builds
snipe spam and overload spam from one team... then you start chasing them, they run away, but while you're chasing you get snipe spam and overload spam from the other team. That is a serious problem.
Teams are getting better and better at dealing with the 3 team dynamic in BGs. Some of these issues can't be solved in a 3 team setting.
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Cage_Lizardman✭✭✭✭✭You ever wonder why people sit bow or spam aoe ? Well for me it's the god awful targeting in melee and everyone runs around like they just did a [snip]. Sometimes it's the only way to hit anything LOL. So no, it doesn't need to stop, it isn't the problem but a solution to another problem.
[Edit for inappropriate remark.]
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This.
Something always ends up on top of the meta ****pile. You can nerf it, but you just end up with a different layer of ****.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on October 6, 2018 7:49PM3 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »Use increase stamina cost poisons. That'll cut down on spinning ballerinas of cheesy death by a bit.
And if you're a ranged class getting hit, that's on you. You're either trying to use Eye of Flame/Storm, Permafrost, or trying to proc Grothdarr or something. You get in close, you deserve to get hit by stuff...simple as that.
Oh. So ranged classes shouldn’t expect to be involved in any BG matches besides Deathmatch? Gotcha. Guess I’ll just stop trying to capture flags on my magsorc because I “deserve” to get hit by the ubiquitous roving spin to win gangs when I’m in melee range.
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Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
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susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.2 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.
So again, I shouldn’t expect to play my sorc in anything other than Deathmatch. No land capture BGs whatsoever. Gotcha.
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Morgul667✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.
So again, I shouldn’t expect to play my sorc in anything other than Deathmatch. No land capture BGs whatsoever. Gotcha.
I fail to see the logic here?
Stay away from your ennemy and make a move when it is relevant or strategic or kill ennemies before reaching for objective.
It does make sense that melee build hit harder when in melee range, as they cannot attack you the rest of the timeEdited by Morgul667 on October 6, 2018 11:46AM3 -
JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.
So again, I shouldn’t expect to play my sorc in anything other than Deathmatch. No land capture BGs whatsoever. Gotcha.
I fail to see the logic here?
Stay away from your ennemy and make a move when it is relevant or strategic or kill ennemies before reaching for objective.
It does make sense that melee build hit harder when in melee range, as they cannot attack you the rest of the time
They don’t hit harder unless you’re about dead lol...steel tornado doesn’t anyway.
Slot resource poisons and they’ll RUN from you. But...they need a nerf... lol.
If EVERYTHING is nerfed what will you run.1 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.
So again, I shouldn’t expect to play my sorc in anything other than Deathmatch. No land capture BGs whatsoever. Gotcha.
I wreck everything on my magblade. I can't use cloak on Flags, Relic capture, Chaosball. Do you hear me complain? If you can't fight melee opponents, that 100% on you.4 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.
So again, I shouldn’t expect to play my sorc in anything other than Deathmatch. No land capture BGs whatsoever. Gotcha.
I fail to see the logic here?
Stay away from your ennemy and make a move when it is relevant or strategic or kill ennemies before reaching for objective.
It does make sense that melee build hit harder when in melee range, as they cannot attack you the rest of the time
I don’t think you understand land capture BG modes. If I get steamrolled by spin-to-win heavy armour stam classes while I’m on a flag with my team, moving away from the flag (esp. if my teammates are also range mag classes) results in the opposing melee team gaining points. Heavy armour NBs often move in stealth until they’re right on the flag, or they cloak up if you try to hit them before they reach the flag. Stamdens have their Shimmering Shield to counter ranged attacks, and stam DKs have wings.
Saying “just fight at range” basically relegates mag classes to DM and nothing else, because most of the other BG modes force you into melee range.
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Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.
So again, I shouldn’t expect to play my sorc in anything other than Deathmatch. No land capture BGs whatsoever. Gotcha.
I wreck everything on my magblade. I can't use cloak on Flags, Relic capture, Chaosball. Do you hear me complain? If you can't fight melee opponents, that 100% on you.
You probably fear your melee opponents though, don’t you?
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susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.
So again, I shouldn’t expect to play my sorc in anything other than Deathmatch. No land capture BGs whatsoever. Gotcha.
I wreck everything on my magblade. I can't use cloak on Flags, Relic capture, Chaosball. Do you hear me complain? If you can't fight melee opponents, that 100% on you.
You probably fear your melee opponents though, don’t you?
You can do the same with Reach, Mines etc.0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Stay out of execute range and you needn’t worry about steel tornado.
Great idea! I’ll just stack my shields and...
Oh, wait.
If you are in melee range, you deserve to be hammered with melee skills. Simple as that. How you deal with that is your problem.
So again, I shouldn’t expect to play my sorc in anything other than Deathmatch. No land capture BGs whatsoever. Gotcha.
I wreck everything on my magblade. I can't use cloak on Flags, Relic capture, Chaosball. Do you hear me complain? If you can't fight melee opponents, that 100% on you.
You probably fear your melee opponents though, don’t you?
You can do the same with Reach, Mines etc.
Reach (single target) and Mines (easily sidestepped) are in no way comparable to an AOE fear.
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