VaranisArano wrote: »

kypranb14_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

The problem is twofold:

1. You can't split BGs without making the population of both smaller. That means a longer queue and premades will have a bigger impact. There's not a huge influx of players that will come for CP BGs, we already saw that. So, do you really want to sit in the extra long queue to fight a smaller pool of players? That's what will happen if we have both types.

2. CP BGs have a high TTK and disporpotionately favor tanky builds. CP allows for tanky builds and tank/healer pairs that are very hard to kill in a 4v4v4 environment. Problem is, those tanky builds are pretty well balanced in CP Cyrodiil where they have to fight lots more players - so ZOS can't just rebalance them for BGs.


So CP was removed from BGs because it was too hard to balance with CP Cyrodiil and because the preponderance of tanky builds made matches slower with fewer deaths. ZOS (and many players) preferred the faster pace of No CP BGs where tanky builds didnt overperform in a 4v4v4 environment.

The first part of this comment is void because my solution isn't to split the queue, but to make all of Battlegrounds seasonally CP enabled/disabled.

The second part makes a good point, though I did not personally encounter this issue. However, September 2017 I swapped from Xbox to PC and entered the phase of regrinding game completion, CP, achievements, etc. So I may have simply missed the CP-Tank meta. (I did play BGs from the release of Morrowind until September on Xbox though.)

The first part is more a problem for the people saying "Well, just offer both!" I used to be in that camp myself, until ZOS went to CP BGs, and I experienced the 2nd point and the balance issues that went with it.

If you do play CP PVP in Cyrodiil and you want to experience what CP BGs were like, find a resource where there's a couple tanky players farming PUGs. That's pretty much what it was like - frustrating attempts with random teams to try to take down tanky players working together. In Cyrodiil, you can walk away or call more players to clear out the farm group. Not so much in BGs.