Resetting CP

pdblake · October 2018

Last night I deleted all but my latest character. The deleted ones were all just me learning the ropes really but one of them had got up to CP215. Even after deleting all those characters these points remain on the account and are available to my currently level 18 character.

I don't intend to use them until I hit level 50, but all the same, it seems a bit too easy to me. Once this character maxes out its CP then after that the only levelling I will need to do on any new character will be up to 50 and then bang! fully maxed CP.

I asked customer support if my CP could be reset to zero so I could start from scratch, but apparently that is not possible. The solution I was given was to start again on another server!

I don't understand how this is not possible really. It's just a number and if there are no characters with CP applied to them, what difference does it make?

I'm not asking for any changes here, just the option to reset only the CP when there are none used across the account. It doesn't even have to be something I could do myself, perhaps being done by a support ticket on request.

Glurin · October 2018

Are you being serious? Because if you are, then I think you're missing the entire point of CP.

pdblake · October 2018

Yes, I'm being serious. Please enlighten me.

The point is not not wanting CP, it's about wanting to start from scratch.

Siohwenoeht · October 2018

CP is account wide, always has been. Your option would be to not assign them on a new character until you reach whatever level you wish. If they are assigned already and you wish to reset them and not reassign any, you can do that for a gold fee in-game in the CP screen. No support ticket required! Hope this helps!

pdblake · October 2018

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

CP is account wide, always has been. Your option would be to not assign them on a new character until you reach whatever level you wish. If they are assigned already and you wish to reset them and not reassign any, you can do that for a gold fee in-game in the CP screen. No support ticket required! Hope this helps!

That's almost word for word what support's first answer was.

Again it's not about wanting any changes in the game or wanting CP to be character based. It is just about wanting to zero the CP to start from scratch now that I've learned the ropes, with the option to do it again if I want.

Beardimus · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

Yes, I'm being serious. Please enlighten me.

The point is not wanting CP, it's about wanting to start from scratch.

I understand what you are after. many wont, for most its about power leveling through the game on turbo then moaning about a lack of end game. Sadly all you can do is not assign the CP.

I recently been leveling toons on a different region and actually enjoyed the from the begining aspect. i'd admit to having a side toon to get goin on CP, but with my main i'm enjoy having no CP and seeing the game now as I saw it 3 years ago. So dont rule out starting again elsewhere as well.

pdblake · October 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

Yes, I'm being serious. Please enlighten me.

The point is not wanting CP, it's about wanting to start from scratch.

I understand what you are after. many wont, for most its about power leveling through the game on turbo then moaning about a lack of end game. Sadly all you can do is not assign the CP.

I recently been leveling toons on a different region and actually enjoyed the from the begining aspect. i'd admit to having a side toon to get goin on CP, but with my main i'm enjoy having no CP and seeing the game now as I saw it 3 years ago. So dont rule out starting again elsewhere as well.

To me it's akin to clearing out my saved games folder after a while. Sometimes you just want to start again (in this case keeping all the collectibles and houses and stuff).

I guess I'll just have to live with it and hope it takes a long while to max out

In all honesty a lot of the character's I make don't make it to 50 anyway.

But I'd still like it as an option and really can't see why anyone, even ZOS, would have issue with it. It affects no one but me.

Siohwenoeht · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

CP is account wide, always has been. Your option would be to not assign them on a new character until you reach whatever level you wish. If they are assigned already and you wish to reset them and not reassign any, you can do that for a gold fee in-game in the CP screen. No support ticket required! Hope this helps!

That's almost word for word what support's first answer was.

Again it's not about wanting any changes in the game or wanting CP to be character based. It is just about wanting to zero the CP to start from scratch now that I've learned the ropes, with the option to do it again if I want.

I see your point, but CP is meant as a post levelling system that augments your characters abilities. The way you are perceiving it equates it with levelling from 1 to 50. If that were the case, they would just say "top level is 780" not 50. Btw, until your new character gets to level 50 you won't accrue more cp so you'll still be able to grind to max CP.

pdblake · October 2018

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

CP is account wide, always has been. Your option would be to not assign them on a new character until you reach whatever level you wish. If they are assigned already and you wish to reset them and not reassign any, you can do that for a gold fee in-game in the CP screen. No support ticket required! Hope this helps!

That's almost word for word what support's first answer was.

Again it's not about wanting any changes in the game or wanting CP to be character based. It is just about wanting to zero the CP to start from scratch now that I've learned the ropes, with the option to do it again if I want.

I see your point, but CP is meant as a post levelling system that augments your characters abilities. The way you are perceiving it equates it with levelling from 1 to 50. If that were the case, they would just say "top level is 780" not 50. Btw, until your new character gets to level 50 you won't accrue more cp so you'll still be able to grind to max CP.

Thanks. I get the way it works. I'll persevere with it though and hope it won't feel too OP when I get to assign 215 all at once. Who knows, maybe I'll get my own personal nerf to compensate

Siohwenoeht · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

CP is account wide, always has been. Your option would be to not assign them on a new character until you reach whatever level you wish. If they are assigned already and you wish to reset them and not reassign any, you can do that for a gold fee in-game in the CP screen. No support ticket required! Hope this helps!

That's almost word for word what support's first answer was.

Again it's not about wanting any changes in the game or wanting CP to be character based. It is just about wanting to zero the CP to start from scratch now that I've learned the ropes, with the option to do it again if I want.

I see your point, but CP is meant as a post levelling system that augments your characters abilities. The way you are perceiving it equates it with levelling from 1 to 50. If that were the case, they would just say "top level is 780" not 50. Btw, until your new character gets to level 50 you won't accrue more cp so you'll still be able to grind to max CP.

Thanks. I get the way it works. I'll persevere with it though and hope it won't feel too OP when I get to assign 215 all at once

Lol, you could always set an arbitrary goal for assigning only 1 point at a time, for instance, assign 1 cp after each dungeon clear

pdblake · October 2018

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

CP is account wide, always has been. Your option would be to not assign them on a new character until you reach whatever level you wish. If they are assigned already and you wish to reset them and not reassign any, you can do that for a gold fee in-game in the CP screen. No support ticket required! Hope this helps!

That's almost word for word what support's first answer was.

Again it's not about wanting any changes in the game or wanting CP to be character based. It is just about wanting to zero the CP to start from scratch now that I've learned the ropes, with the option to do it again if I want.

I see your point, but CP is meant as a post levelling system that augments your characters abilities. The way you are perceiving it equates it with levelling from 1 to 50. If that were the case, they would just say "top level is 780" not 50. Btw, until your new character gets to level 50 you won't accrue more cp so you'll still be able to grind to max CP.

Thanks. I get the way it works. I'll persevere with it though and hope it won't feel too OP when I get to assign 215 all at once

Lol, you could always set an arbitrary goal for assigning only 1 point at a time, for instance, assign 1 cp after each dungeon clear

I am nowhere near disciplined enough to stick to that lol.

I'm sure I'll get used to it.

StamWhipCultist · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

Yes, I'm being serious. Please enlighten me.

The point is not not wanting CP, it's about wanting to start from scratch.

Well, its up to you. Simply do not add any CP and you will feel like starting from zero. You cannot expect entire game to cater your wishes anyways. At least here you have a possibility to control it yourself.

Elwendryll · October 2018

I can understand why someone would do that. Especially when I look into my crafting bag and I see the lack of cp 10 - cp140 mats. When I started leveling up jewelry crafting, and half the mats you get is platinum, which is useless for leveling.

munster1404 · October 2018

To each his own. But it's got to be the one of the weirdest request I have ever read.

rexagamemnon · October 2018

I think the 30point jump every dlc is a little low

carlos424 · October 2018

Start a new account. Not sure how it works on pc, but on xbox, you can create multiple user accounts, and all have access to the game. You just have to sign in with the different account. Only drawback is if you want ESO+, you would have to purchase it for each account, but basic game is available to all accounts.

mreisse · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

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But I'd still like it as an option and really can't see why anyone, even ZOS, would have issue with it. It affects no one but me.

Since it only affects you they will definitely not spend previous Dev manhours coding the workaround you want.

pdblake · October 2018

mreisse wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

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But I'd still like it as an option and really can't see why anyone, even ZOS, would have issue with it. It affects no one but me.

Since it only affects you they will definitely not spend previous Dev manhours coding the workaround you want.

You got me with that one. I doubt enough people would want it to make it viable.

EliteWarrior · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

Last night I deleted all but my latest character. The deleted ones were all just me learning the ropes really but one of them had got up to CP215. Even after deleting all those characters these points remain on the account and are available to my currently level 18 character.

I don't intend to use them until I hit level 50, but all the same, it seems a bit too easy to me. Once this character maxes out its CP then after that the only levelling I will need to do on any new character will be up to 50 and then bang! fully maxed CP.

I asked customer support if my CP could be reset to zero so I could start from scratch, but apparently that is not possible. The solution I was given was to start again on another server!

I don't understand how this is not possible really. It's just a number and if there are no characters with CP applied to them, what difference does it make?

I'm not asking for any changes here, just the option to reset only the CP when there are none used across the account. It doesn't even have to be something I could do myself, perhaps being done by a support ticket on request.

This is a troll right?

Hoolielulu · October 2018

With the magDK I'm leveling up now, I won't start giving him CP until he hits 50, and then he only gets 1 with every level-up as if there isn't 605 sitting there. It's the way he is, really, refusing handouts like some sort of beggar.

pdblake · October 2018

Hoolielulu wrote: »

With the magDK I'm leveling up now, I won't start giving him CP until he hits 50, and then he only gets 1 with every level-up as if there isn't 605 sitting there. It's the way he is, really, refusing handouts like some sort of beggar.

How do you know you've hit a level after 50 though, especially if you're maxed out?

xxthir13enxx · October 2018

I regularly remove my CP from my character while playing in CP PVP just to add some spice to the game as a form of a Difficulty setting...though I personally would never opt for what you are asking for I do get it...but nicer to have the option to reassign them...lol

Sparr0w · October 2018

The way it works is you start at level 1 (well 3 if you skip the tutorial) and your character is battle scaled up to cp160 (afaik), you gradually lose that battle scaling (also your stats will decrease) until you hit level 50 since you will be unlocking skills/passives/gear etc. where your character will then be CP10 (this is your weakest point stats wise).

You then gradually gain back your stats until cp160 where you're as strong as you were at level 3. After that you gain CP (account wide) which will make you stronger from that point onwards.

The initial reason (afaik) for it being implemented was due to people creating new characters, having to level to 50, then grind out 16 VR levels (equivalent to cp160 without the enlightenment) on top of having to quest, lorebook, mages, fighters, (now psijic) again which was just too much to be bothered doing. EDIT: Add Skyshards.

The reason for battle scaling was since certain zones had say level 40 monsters which would be impossible to kill unless you were close to that level, same with quests. So now until you hit level 50 everything is scaled to one level (including mobs, quests and yourself).

Dont worry about getting there too quickly, I've basically played daily since November last year & am still 70 points off cap with 30 more being added in the next month or so (even after hitting cap you can theoretically earn 3600 cp just cant assign them).

*If im wrong on any parts of this please tag and correct me, can't find much info on this stuff so just reiterating what I've heard mixed with my opinion & experience*

pdblake · October 2018

Sparr0w wrote: »

The way it works is you start at level 1 (well 3 if you skip the tutorial) and your character is battle scaled up to cp160 (afaik), you gradually lose that battle scaling (also your stats will decrease) until you hit level 50 since you will be unlocking skills/passives/gear etc. where your character will then be CP10 (this is your weakest point stats wise).

You then gradually gain back your stats until cp160 where you're as strong as you were at level 3. After that you gain CP (account wide) which will make you stronger from that point onwards.

The initial reason (afaik) for it being implemented was due to people creating new characters, having to level to 50, then grind out 16 VR levels (equivalent to cp160 without the enlightenment) on top of having to quest, lorebook, mages, fighters, (now psijic) again which was just too much to be bothered doing. EDIT: Add Skyshards.

The reason for battle scaling was since certain zones had say level 40 monsters which would be impossible to kill unless you were close to that level, same with quests. So now until you hit level 50 everything is scaled to one level (including mobs, quests and yourself).

Dont worry about getting there too quickly, I've basically played daily since November last year & am still 70 points off cap with 30 more being added in the next month or so (even after hitting cap you can theoretically earn 3600 cp just cant assign them).

*If im wrong on any parts of this please tag and correct me, can't find much info on this stuff so just reiterating what I've heard mixed with my opinion & experience*

Ah, thanks for that. That explains it much better.

So in short, after level 50 I'm going to find myself much weaker until I hit CP160 (which I already have on one character) and the CP makes up for that. If I'm understanding that right then I don't feel so bad about using them. Thanks.

Hoolielulu · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

Hoolielulu wrote: »

With the magDK I'm leveling up now, I won't start giving him CP until he hits 50, and then he only gets 1 with every level-up as if there isn't 605 sitting there. It's the way he is, really, refusing handouts like some sort of beggar.

How do you know you've hit a level after 50 though, especially if you're maxed out?

When, if ever, I stop getting notices that he's leveled up I'll be giving him one or two points a day depending on how many hours I play. I rarely earn three a day on my main so I have a good benchmark.

pdblake · October 2018

Hoolielulu wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

Hoolielulu wrote: »

With the magDK I'm leveling up now, I won't start giving him CP until he hits 50, and then he only gets 1 with every level-up as if there isn't 605 sitting there. It's the way he is, really, refusing handouts like some sort of beggar.

How do you know you've hit a level after 50 though, especially if you're maxed out?

When, if ever, I stop getting notices that he's leveled up I'll be giving him one or two points a day depending on how many hours I play. I rarely earn three a day on my main so I have a good benchmark.

I see. Sounds about what I was getting on the one character that got to CP.

Sparr0w · October 2018

Yeah first 300 or so you'll get 2-3 a day, next 300 or so you'll get 1-2 a day, next lot until cap you'll get 0-1 a day.

Enlightenment gives you enough to shoot to around CP90 straight away, after that CP gets harder to earn.

tmbrinks · October 2018

Sparr0w wrote: »

The way it works is you start at level 1 (well 3 if you skip the tutorial) and your character is battle scaled up to cp160 (afaik), you gradually lose that battle scaling (also your stats will decrease) until you hit level 50 since you will be unlocking skills/passives/gear etc. where your character will then be CP10 (this is your weakest point stats wise).

You then gradually gain back your stats until cp160 where you're as strong as you were at level 3. After that you gain CP (account wide) which will make you stronger from that point onwards.

The initial reason (afaik) for it being implemented was due to people creating new characters, having to level to 50, then grind out 16 VR levels (equivalent to cp160 without the enlightenment) on top of having to quest, lorebook, mages, fighters, (now psijic) again which was just too much to be bothered doing. EDIT: Add Skyshards.

The reason for battle scaling was since certain zones had say level 40 monsters which would be impossible to kill unless you were close to that level, same with quests. So now until you hit level 50 everything is scaled to one level (including mobs, quests and yourself).

Dont worry about getting there too quickly, I've basically played daily since November last year & am still 70 points off cap with 30 more being added in the next month or so (even after hitting cap you can theoretically earn 3600 cp just cant assign them).

*If im wrong on any parts of this please tag and correct me, can't find much info on this stuff so just reiterating what I've heard mixed with my opinion & experience*

only disagreement is that the grind from V1 to V16 was much, much, much worse than the grind from CP10-CP160. I recently started a 2nd account and ground up to CP225 (for the harvester passive, as I mostly do writs on the account), and it took me about the same amount of time to get from CP10 to CP225, as it did to go from V1 to around V4 on my main account when we had veteran levels.

Main account has almost 1200 CP, so I've never felt the CP grind on that account, I've always been above the CP cap

But I did level up 4 toons to v16 before the changeover.

tmbrinks · October 2018

Sparr0w wrote: »

Yeah first 300 or so you'll get 2-3 a day, next 300 or so you'll get 1-2 a day, next lot until cap you'll get 0-1 a day.

Enlightenment gives you enough to shoot to around CP90 straight away, after that CP gets harder to earn.

I was gaining upwards of 6 champion points at a time when completing a vet dungeon with a 150% XP scroll and enlightenment on my alt account

kathandira · October 2018

pdblake wrote: »

Last night I deleted all but my latest character. The deleted ones were all just me learning the ropes really but one of them had got up to CP215. Even after deleting all those characters these points remain on the account and are available to my currently level 18 character.

I don't intend to use them until I hit level 50, but all the same, it seems a bit too easy to me. Once this character maxes out its CP then after that the only levelling I will need to do on any new character will be up to 50 and then bang! fully maxed CP.

I asked customer support if my CP could be reset to zero so I could start from scratch, but apparently that is not possible. The solution I was given was to start again on another server!

I don't understand how this is not possible really. It's just a number and if there are no characters with CP applied to them, what difference does it make?

I'm not asking for any changes here, just the option to reset only the CP when there are none used across the account. It doesn't even have to be something I could do myself, perhaps being done by a support ticket on request.

It's simple. Don't invest the CP points. It is up to your own self control.

Sparr0w · October 2018

tmbrinks wrote: »

Sparr0w wrote: »

Yeah first 300 or so you'll get 2-3 a day, next 300 or so you'll get 1-2 a day, next lot until cap you'll get 0-1 a day.

Enlightenment gives you enough to shoot to around CP90 straight away, after that CP gets harder to earn.

I was gaining upwards of 6 champion points at a time when completing a vet dungeon with a 150% XP scroll and enlightenment on my alt account

Going off normal gameplay, obviously doing stuff that grants a lot of XP e.g. dailys and grinding, especially with pots & enlightenment you'll level up quicker.