Nerfs and Entitlement Vs Practice and Effort

Ayastigi
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When looking through forum posts it seems as if a large section of this community doesn't like to practice to get better. People asks for nerfs to skills and classes they get beat by, nerfs to content they cannot clear, and nerfs to grinding for gear (increased transmutation crystals). Most of the time the problem isn't the skills, classes, content, or ways to obtain gear...most of the time the problem is you. Before you try to clear vet content or become competitive in PVP you should have the rotation of the class you are using down to muscle memory. To do this you would need to spend time on a training dummy..most don't do this and they progress a lot slower than those that do. You should also be familiar with the mechanics of the dungeons (which you learn on normal mode of those dungeons) and the abilities of classes you are fighting against in PVP (you have to level up those classes and learn what they can do). You should also understand real world attributes translate into the game and separate good players from great players. People who have faster reflexes, reaction times, better perception of time, and memory are going to be better than everyone with all other things considered equal (time playing the game, gear, understanding of mechanics, etc). We are not created equal and this seems lost to many that frequent these forums.

That does not mean you can not be a good player, you can. You have to practice a lot though. Hours at a time on a training dummy, researching gear combinations, researching how different abilities affect different enemies, designing rotations to see what fits your play style. Most people won't do this and will say they have a life and don't have the time for it. That's fine, it will just take you a lot longer to do things above-average players are capable of doing, if ever. This game takes a lot of time and effort to be good at that's true in the real and digital world. If you don't want to practice why do you complain about others that do who can do things better than you? It's terrible to see so many cries for nerfs to my opposition.

These forums have been asking for a nerf to cloak so long. We have detec potions. It is a skill to potion switch quickly. When a night blade attacks you dodge roll, heal, heal, detec potion, snare, rotation, ulti-dump, execute. They are so squishy and fun to beat why ask to nerf them. These forums have also been asking for a nerf to shields for so long also, Why? When you see a sorc, snare them continuously and apply pressure (could be bleeds, fire damg dots, poison dam, etc), and move behind them (always try to circle around them)after applying pressure and snaring they will run out of stamina while snared..shields go down..rotation, ulti dump, execute. In PVE the constant begging for nerfs to shields affected every LA magic class that uses annulment by adding a cast time that has since been reverted but the point remains, asking for nerfs is not the answer more often than not.

Seeing people complain about lack of access to transmute crystals confuses me. There are other options like running the dungeon over and over until your desired piece drops, it's just that so many people demanding instant gratification with minimal effort is appalling. Don't get me wrong it is nice to have transmute crystals but before them we grinded dungeons and put in effort to get gear in the traits we wanted..change is nice but acting like other options to get gear don't exist is lazy. Again "I don't have time to run a dungeon over and over I have a 1.life 2. family 3. something else", fine, just be okay with getting your gear at a later time when your schedule allows and accept that some people have time to do what's required and those people will have better gear than you.

To everyone saying they feel punished for missing daily login rewards, you all are real pieces of work. They are free daily login rewards. If you don't log in you don't receive the award, if you don't meet the criteria to obtain end of the month rewards you don't deserve end of the month rewards. Nobody should have to tell you this since you understand but you think that if you whine about enough that you'll get it with even less effort than having to login..which is where we are gonna close this out. This all comes down to effort. If you don't wanna put in the work, put aside your ego to learn, and do what needs to be done to progress in this game then understand your position and accept that it is a reflection of your effort. Instant gratification doesn't get you anywhere. Quit whining and work for it, if you don't want to that's fine too just don't expect to clear the same content as people who practice and beat people who train.

Sincerely,

An average ESO player
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    Ah, the scattershot method. Messy, but potentially effective.


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    Thank you

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  • TheInfernalRage
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    What do you expect from people who merely copy builds and pretend to know everything?

    I saw some "meta" guy babble about BiS in chat and he did not even research the sets he's talking about. He probably saw a YouTube video and decided to mimic what the video is talking about in order to appear like an authority on the subject. The problem with this sense of "authority" is that it redoubles the feeling of entitlement. A player for example who never played a Sorcerer or any magicka-based toon, but saw a video on YouTube, suddenly becomes empowered to say something about the shield nerfing.

    Regarding the daily rewards, I don't get it too. These are just free rewards that one can earn by logging in. They were not even there for the most part of this game so far. I never complained about those rewards because it's just there as extra bonus not an entitlement.
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    Who knew discussing hypothtical changes to daily rewards would be so controversial.

    I still cant grasp why people get so emotional about something so trivial.
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  • Cadbury
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    badmojo wrote: »
    Who knew discussing hypothtical changes to daily rewards would be so controversial.

    I still cant grasp why people get so emotional about something so trivial.

    I'm more surprised how many people were upset they missed the 100k daily reward.
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    Why people act like it's entitlement to give feedback to a developer on a forum where developers ask for feedback is beyond me.

    Everyone should share their opinion. ZOS is a big company run by plenty of big boys and girls. If they nerf something it's because they agreed with some group, or because their behind the scenes data backed up those assertions. That's it.
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    badmojo wrote: »
    Who knew discussing hypothtical changes to daily rewards would be so controversial.

    I still cant grasp why people get so emotional about something so trivial.

    I'm more surprised how many people were upset they missed the 100k daily reward.

    I missed the 100k and im poor and you dont see me complaining about that. No, what i complain about are real problems like the state of the frost staff and the fact that there are a large amount of skills out there that are either really bad or have bad morphs. In some cases, both. Skills like soul trap, elemental susceptibility and unstable wall of elements which are forgotten about by the populace because they are just useless compared to other skills. Then you have a whole bunch of near useless morphs in winters embrace, im talking crystallized slab(which cannot simply compare to shimmering), expansive frost cloak(which is lackluster and never used by its intended audience, not to mention its other, better morph achieves the same thing at greater benefit to the caster), arctic blast(which is the worst change ive ever seen as it no longer needs a tank heal since tanks arent going to use it over polar and max health based heals arent very strong on magdps. it doesnt need a heal either since we have a tree(pun unintended) dedicated to normal heals. the destructive touch line of skills give us access to the essential passives plus it deals damage and a dot. Most people ive seen want its damage back which would be better than an unreliable heal) and frozen retreat(which is counter productive but not far off). Enough ranting.

    The point is, I dont need to be an expert to see these problems and i have solutions if you want but i didn't list them here.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on October 3, 2018 12:36AM
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  • witchdoctor
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Why people act like it's entitlement to give feedback to a developer on a forum where developers ask for feedback is beyond me.

    Everyone should share their opinion. ZOS is a big company run by plenty of big boys and girls. If they nerf something it's because they agreed with some group, or because their behind the scenes data backed up those assertions. That's it.

    Mostly, its the line between, 'ZOS, may want to give the big rewards earlier because: a) and b);' versus, 'daily rewards are fake! I quit!' and 'ZOMG, ZOS, why isn't the daily set to MY personal time zone!'

    Your earlier post on what's wrong with healers: feedback. The daily rewards are fake thread: not (useful) feedback.
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    badmojo wrote: »
    Who knew discussing hypothtical changes to daily rewards would be so controversial.

    I still cant grasp why people get so emotional about something so trivial.

    I'm more surprised how many people were upset they missed the 100k daily reward.

    I'm not.

    Even though the DLC is supposedly fragged for an earlier delivery, I anticipate a RIVER of salt in November.
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    Well said !

    But practices cannot change the fact , 99% end game trial tanks are DK .
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    Ayastigi wrote: »
    Seeing people complain about lack of access to transmute crystals confuses me. There are other options like running the dungeon over and over until your desired piece drops, it's just that so many people demanding instant gratification with minimal effort is appalling. Don't get me wrong it is nice to have transmute crystals but before them we grinded dungeons and put in effort to get gear in the traits we wanted..change is nice but acting like other options to get gear don't exist is lazy. Again "I don't have time to run a dungeon over and over I have a 1.life 2. family 3. something else", fine, just be okay with getting your gear at a later time when your schedule allows and accept that some people have time to do what's required and those people will have better gear than you.

    An average ESO player

    I prefer to play the content that I enjoy to play, & not grind, repetitive, boring carrot on the stick for that one specific trait.

    Less of a gap between gear and levels creates a better community overall with more player availability towards end game content & being competitive in pvp. This idea that players who can play 2-8+ hours a day should only be able to access and be successful in a game mode is outdated, and a bad business model.

  • Armatesz
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    A lot of people complain about something should be nerfed or something should be boosted or they don't understand the fundamentals or parts of various abilities. I guess in may aspects it has something to do with people only using suggested builds without actually testing abilities to see how they work and look like when used. Try to learn how to counter such a build. As for stealthed characters if you don't have detect pots and you are kinda aware of where they are at throw some aoes around, aoes will break their stealth instantly. Then proceed to throw one more around them and then snare them or whathaveyou. If you are a magic character and using a destro staff... use the destro ulti that follows you and then run up on them and always keep that aoe on them. Trust me they can't stealth if they are taking damage, and aoe keeps that damage on them. Also another thing you should def get yourself used to if you are in a pvp setting if you are running with a zerg never have everyone all pile up... you make yourself an easy target for inevitable detonation and proxy detonation. Always be aware of your surroundings as best as you can. As well as try to learn the lay of the land so you can better equip yourself to deal with various situations. Know when to fight and when to trick a zerg to run right past you. Misdirection is also a very powerful tool. Also if you are going to fight a keep or outpost... look up please. You would be shocked at how many times I've killed zergs because they don't know how to look up at an outpost.

    On a side note make sure to be aware of what your character's armor/weapons look like and try to make yourself better blend into your environment, try to pick neutral based colors as well that more contour to the area you are going to.
    Edited by Armatesz on October 3, 2018 1:42AM
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  • DanteYoda
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    OP is just as entitled as the people he's complaining about.. OP come back to me when you can clear vet content with 400-600 ping times..
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    OP is just as entitled as the people he's complaining about.. OP come back to me when you can clear vet content with 400-600 ping times..

    Imagine just how deluded someone would have to be to make this post and think they were making a good point.
    Unless you are willing to be a mindless sycophant and/or coddle others due to their insecurities prepare to be harrased by the Orwellian enforcers on these forums. You should also try to refrain from using any words more complex than those used by a small child due to the fact that said enforcers have made it clear that their vocabulary pool is aenemic.
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    I find myself somewhat conflicted because while I agree with the OP in general, "git gud" does nothing to address the very real design flaws that exist. Sometimes a nerf is warranted, even if it's unpopular, like the shield nerf.
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  • witchdoctor
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    OP is just as entitled as the people he's complaining about.. OP come back to me when you can clear vet content with 400-600 ping times..

    Like many players in numerous vet Oceanic guilds ... ?
  • FloppyTouch
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    Practice and skill to be better hmmmm ever fight a stam warden with DB and spin to win and bleeds in bgs. That takes a lot of practice and skill to pull off.

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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Im all for a power creep honestly. Its much better to have very fun skills rather than to have a balanced but boring skill just like the animal companions line
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    Whiners whine, they do not matter, they think they matter, but to anyone else bar ZoS, they do not matter.
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    Whiners whine, they do not matter, they think they matter, but to anyone else bar ZoS, they do not matter.

    And then the slaves were freed even though they didn't matter to many people.

    Lets just say that there are good people out there.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on October 3, 2018 2:53AM
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  • MaxJrFTW
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    Say that to the broken sorcs that refuse to be balanced.
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    Say that to the broken sorcs that refuse to be balanced.

    Im not a sorc but the sustain needs one final thing to assist. Dk too needs help.
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    Whiners whine, they do not matter, they think they matter, but to anyone else bar ZoS, they do not matter.

    And then the slaves were freed even though they didn't matter to many people.

    Lets just say that there are good people out there.

    Um what has that gotta do with ZoS nerfing everything in sight like the Death Star on a rampage at the constant salt from casuals or players who cannot adapt?

    True enough what you said on a completely different paradigm
    Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

    Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
    LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
    LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)

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  • Silver_Strider
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    This is all well and good but what able legitimate complaints?

    Magden has legit reason to be upset, they're the running joke of DPS specs but they keep getting hit with every strike of the nerf hammer. Arctic Blast might as well be deleted now that they made it a target required stun on a TANK heal that no DPS will realistically benefit from and Tanks won't use it because they require a reliable self heal and not one that can potentially fizzle out because the boss decided to jump away from you. Falcon Swiftness was changed to be more or less bar clutter with very little incentive to ever actually active it and then to top it off Warden's only DoT gets a cost increase. Where's the logic here? How does one adjust to these senseless nerfs that do nothing but beat the poor dead Magden horse even more than it needs to be beaten?

    NB Tanks and Healers also got the short end of the stick this patch with half their tools gutted and replaced with...a 2 second Major Expedition buff for everyone? Yes, because that's totally useful 100% of the time. Nevermind NB tank sustain will be the absolute worst it's ever been now that Major Evasion no longer acts as a pseudo sustain tool for them and the "buff" to Siphoning Strikes is not going to cut it, not by a long shot. You took Sap Tank away, now Dodge Tanking and even our damage is gone. WTF ZOS?

    This patch has been rough, no 2 ways about it.
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    In general, I agree with what was stated here. But everyone needs to understand that ESO needs to cater to an enormous range of people. ESO is a big game with lots to do.

    Sometimes people just want to play a game for fun and don’t think they need to practice a game to be able to perform a game because practice is not fun for most people. Doing the same thing over and over gets boring quickly.

    ESO does not do a good enough job explaining how things work and the counter to them. How is your average player who picks up the game supposed to know that a aoe takes someone out of stealth. Where does it talk about what and how pots work? Where does it talk about snares, roots and cc. Unless someone takes the time to learn about ESO outside of what the game tells or officially tells you how are they the average player to know?

    Plus, some people just like to complain no matter what and there is nothing anyone can do to make them happy.
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    badmojo wrote: »
    Who knew discussing hypothtical changes to daily rewards would be so controversial.

    I still cant grasp why people get so emotional about something so trivial.

    Because no matter how many times it’s explained, “You get rewarded for logging in, you don’t log in, you don’t get a reward”, and it’s fairly simple, people want to complain about it. Simply, it’s annoying. You’re not entitled to rewards, they don’t need to give us anything, stop being entitled and be grateful you’re getting anything at all for doing something so trivial.
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    Odnoc wrote: »
    badmojo wrote: »
    Who knew discussing hypothtical changes to daily rewards would be so controversial.

    I still cant grasp why people get so emotional about something so trivial.

    Because no matter how many times it’s explained, “You get rewarded for logging in, you don’t log in, you don’t get a reward”, and it’s fairly simple, people want to complain about it. Simply, it’s annoying. You’re not entitled to rewards, they don’t need to give us anything, stop being entitled and be grateful you’re getting anything at all for doing something so trivial.

    Well, I can understand wanting at least a few days grace period. Stuff happens. Internet problems, family problems, work problems, patch problems, ZoS problems, cat chewed on your ethernet cable problems, etc., etc. Even just plain old bad timing. So it's nice to have a little bit of a buffer zone where you can still get the reward even if something happens that wasn't your fault.

    That being said, a few days is all you get. The reward system is there to encourage you to log in. No log in, no reward.
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  • Ruckly
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    If I want to wash my hair I will wash my hair. If I want to play a video game than I will do so and have fun. I keep the two separate in general. The notion of a video game being a pure mechanical process is ridiculous. Making a video game a pure mechanical process is pointless. If I play the game off key then that is my human schemata projecting itself into or occurring among and in and through the world/spirit. It is a part of the point of an mmo. I suppose you could say it is a part of the point of life.
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    Ayastigi wrote: »
    When looking through forum posts it seems as if a large section of this community doesn't like to practice to get better. People asks for nerfs to skills and classes they get beat by, nerfs to content they cannot clear, and nerfs to grinding for gear (increased transmutation crystals). Most of the time the problem isn't the skills, classes, content, or ways to obtain gear...most of the time the problem is you. Before you try to clear vet content or become competitive in PVP you should have the rotation of the class you are using down to muscle memory. To do this you would need to spend time on a training dummy..most don't do this and they progress a lot slower than those that do. You should also be familiar with the mechanics of the dungeons (which you learn on normal mode of those dungeons) and the abilities of classes you are fighting against in PVP (you have to level up those classes and learn what they can do). You should also understand real world attributes translate into the game and separate good players from great players. People who have faster reflexes, reaction times, better perception of time, and memory are going to be better than everyone with all other things considered equal (time playing the game, gear, understanding of mechanics, etc). We are not created equal and this seems lost to many that frequent these forums.

    That does not mean you can not be a good player, you can. You have to practice a lot though. Hours at a time on a training dummy, researching gear combinations, researching how different abilities affect different enemies, designing rotations to see what fits your play style. Most people won't do this and will say they have a life and don't have the time for it. That's fine, it will just take you a lot longer to do things above-average players are capable of doing, if ever. This game takes a lot of time and effort to be good at that's true in the real and digital world. If you don't want to practice why do you complain about others that do who can do things better than you? It's terrible to see so many cries for nerfs to my opposition.

    These forums have been asking for a nerf to cloak so long. We have detec potions. It is a skill to potion switch quickly. When a night blade attacks you dodge roll, heal, heal, detec potion, snare, rotation, ulti-dump, execute. They are so squishy and fun to beat why ask to nerf them. These forums have also been asking for a nerf to shields for so long also, Why? When you see a sorc, snare them continuously and apply pressure (could be bleeds, fire damg dots, poison dam, etc), and move behind them (always try to circle around them)after applying pressure and snaring they will run out of stamina while snared..shields go down..rotation, ulti dump, execute. In PVE the constant begging for nerfs to shields affected every LA magic class that uses annulment by adding a cast time that has since been reverted but the point remains, asking for nerfs is not the answer more often than not.

    Seeing people complain about lack of access to transmute crystals confuses me. There are other options like running the dungeon over and over until your desired piece drops, it's just that so many people demanding instant gratification with minimal effort is appalling. Don't get me wrong it is nice to have transmute crystals but before them we grinded dungeons and put in effort to get gear in the traits we wanted..change is nice but acting like other options to get gear don't exist is lazy. Again "I don't have time to run a dungeon over and over I have a 1.life 2. family 3. something else", fine, just be okay with getting your gear at a later time when your schedule allows and accept that some people have time to do what's required and those people will have better gear than you.

    To everyone saying they feel punished for missing daily login rewards, you all are real pieces of work. They are free daily login rewards. If you don't log in you don't receive the award, if you don't meet the criteria to obtain end of the month rewards you don't deserve end of the month rewards. Nobody should have to tell you this since you understand but you think that if you whine about enough that you'll get it with even less effort than having to login..which is where we are gonna close this out. This all comes down to effort. If you don't wanna put in the work, put aside your ego to learn, and do what needs to be done to progress in this game then understand your position and accept that it is a reflection of your effort. Instant gratification doesn't get you anywhere. Quit whining and work for it, if you don't want to that's fine too just don't expect to clear the same content as people who practice and beat people who train.

    Sincerely,

    An average ESO player

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    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
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    Whiners whine, they do not matter, they think they matter, but to anyone else bar ZoS, they do not matter.

    And then the slaves were freed even though they didn't matter to many people.

    Lets just say that there are good people out there.

    Um what has that gotta do with ZoS nerfing everything in sight like the Death Star on a rampage at the constant salt from casuals or players who cannot adapt?

    True enough what you said on a completely different paradigm

    i meant that whiners have a point sometimes and that those points need to be taken seriously, if not by zos entirely, then by some devs who do have a say.
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