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Daily Rewards: Remove Soulgems and Crown Meals?
spartaxoxo
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Should ZOS remove Crown Fortifying Meal and Crown Gems from the Daily Rewards?
Daily Rewards: Remove Soulgems and Crown Meals? 259 votes
Yes
56%
147 votes
No
30%
79 votes
Maybe So
6%
16 votes
Can't talk, erecting a statue to honor uselss things
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17 votes
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesI think they should because the crown meal is less useful than the various readily available purple food, and anyone who plays for 30 days, everyday, will also likely have more soulgems than they know how to use. So having these clutter your bag with a second space is lame.Edited by spartaxoxo on October 1, 2018 8:05PM2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And replace it with what, dried branch furnishings?
Most rewards are junk so the good ones feel special.13 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesVaranisArano wrote: »And replace it with what, dried branch furnishings?
Most rewards are junk so the good ones feel special.
Potions and repair kits
Potions are something people use a lot and they are the same quality as the ones we make
The crown repair kits are better than the ones we makeEdited by spartaxoxo on October 1, 2018 8:11PM5 -
NoNah, this is how these daily rewards go in most games. I jist wish we could trade them for store gems11
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoThere are newer players who do not have tons of matts for food and a stockpile soul gems.
More so, Zos could split the AP, Telvar and gold rewards in half to fill the days vacated by this request.
In other words, we will not get anymore and the current design does benefit newer and returning players. Zos is aware so the poll will be of no use to them.Edited by idk on October 1, 2018 8:14PM8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NoI was deciding whether or not to welcome Trick or Treaters this year, and this thread just convinced me not to.signing off2 -
Tyrobag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesMostly I'd like them to make them just normal soul gems so they'll stack.. As is I have to throw them out so they don't suck up inventory space.3 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesThere are newer players who do not have tons of matts for food and a stockpile soul gems.
More so, Zos could split the AP, Telvar and gold rewards in half to fill the days vacated by this request.
In other words, we will not get anymore and the current design does benefit newer and returning players.
New and returning players are often just given gems for free. If you ask for food in a dungeon, people will just give it to you, usually. I have helped many new players like that in my guild.
I actually think its worse to give to them that way, because it may delay them from getting a guild. This is because the amount of help and knowledge available from established players far exceeds what they'd get out of like 4 soul gems.
Edited by spartaxoxo on October 1, 2018 8:17PM0 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoThey are good for new players. A game that only caters to high-level players will quickly turn to dust.1 -
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✭✭✭NoAbsolutely not! The crown meals are substantially better food items than most new players (and even some not so new players) can craft. They need to remain. Heck, I would be fine if they replaced one or two of this month’s AP rewards.
As for soul gems and repair kits, those need to stay as well. New players with no soul gems or little gold need those items. I have rezzed several low level players during the past week while running daily delve quests so there is definitely to remain.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Maybe SoWhat would they replace it with?
I think it's unlikely they added extra days to fit in soul gems and food. I suspect they start by deciding how many days they want and/or what the big rewards will be and then add other stuff to fill the gaps. So there would have to be something else.
I don't want to support removing food and soul gems if it's going to be replaced with something equally/even more useless, and it's pointless to support it if you're asking for something they're highly unlikely to ever add, especially as a replacement for a random consumable rather than as a big reward.
I don't mind the food - yes there's better food available but it doesn't hurt to have freebies to use at times when it's not worth using the best choice. The soul gems are less useful, especially now all soul gems work at all levels (it used to be harder to get high level ones) but there are probably items I use less and would be disappointed to get instead.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nospartaxoxo wrote: »There are newer players who do not have tons of matts for food and a stockpile soul gems.
More so, Zos could split the AP, Telvar and gold rewards in half to fill the days vacated by this request.
In other words, we will not get anymore and the current design does benefit newer and returning players.
New and returning players are often just given gems for free. If you ask for food in a dungeon, people will just give it to you, usually. I have helped many new players like that in my guild.
I actually think its worse to give to them that way, because it may delay them from getting a guild. This is because the amount of help and knowledge available from established players far exceeds what they'd get out of like 4 soul gems.
They are not given very much and you are making a huge assumption most new players enter the group dungeons. After seeing some of the crap posted in these forums about GF it is clear there are some players not so helpful.
You also make an assumption that these daily rewards somehow affects players looking for a guild.
Again, you will not get anything more if Zos would remove them. You would be required to log in the same number of days Zos decides and they would just split up the other rewards. It is not hurting you or anyone else. Seems like such a minor thing to complain about.
Edit: I must agree with Taleof2Cities below.
Edited by idk on October 1, 2018 8:36PM0 -
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✭✭NoThank you is the appropriate response when someone gives you something, unless you need antibiotics for it.
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesWhat would they replace it with?
I think it's unlikely they added extra days to fit in soul gems and food. I suspect they start by deciding how many days they want and/or what the big rewards will be and then add other stuff to fill the gaps. So there would have to be something else.
I don't want to support removing food and soul gems if it's going to be replaced with something equally/even more useless, and it's pointless to support it if you're asking for something they're highly unlikely to ever add, especially as a replacement for a random consumable rather than as a big reward.
I don't mind the food - yes there's better food available but it doesn't hurt to have freebies to use at times when it's not worth using the best choice. The soul gems are less useful, especially now all soul gems work at all levels (it used to be harder to get high level ones) but there are probably items I use less and would be disappointed to get instead.
Crown Repair Kits, Potions, Mimic Stones, and experience scrolls all have a similar value in the store, but are more broadly applicable. Mimic Stones also come with the bonus of being stowable in the crafting bag.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yesspartaxoxo wrote: »There are newer players who do not have tons of matts for food and a stockpile soul gems.
More so, Zos could split the AP, Telvar and gold rewards in half to fill the days vacated by this request.
In other words, we will not get anymore and the current design does benefit newer and returning players.
New and returning players are often just given gems for free. If you ask for food in a dungeon, people will just give it to you, usually. I have helped many new players like that in my guild.
I actually think its worse to give to them that way, because it may delay them from getting a guild. This is because the amount of help and knowledge available from established players far exceeds what they'd get out of like 4 soul gems.
They are not given very much and you are making a huge assumption most new players enter the group dungeons. After seeing some of the crap posted in these forums about GF it is clear there are some players not so helpful.
You also make an assumption that these daily rewards somehow affects players looking for a guild.
Again, you will not get anything more if Zos would remove them. You would be required to log in the same number of days Zos decides and they would just split up the other rewards. It is not hurting you or anyone else. Seems like such a minor thing to complain about.
Edit: I must agree with Taleof2Cities below.
Many new players do group dungeons because the level up rewards tell them to do it. Dungeons is how many find baby's first guild.
I may be making assumption they'd add something else but its also a leap to say they wouldn't since they have a calendar to fill.
They could add something of equal value like mimic stones, potions, repair kits, etc. All stuff they have given out before and all more broadly useful.Edited by spartaxoxo on October 1, 2018 8:45PM0 -
Thalidar✭✭✭NoI love free food as it's really good for levels 1-50. Especially when first starting a new Toon.
Soul gems not so much, but it just means they're used first for charging weapons on said toons.
Do I need them, no, but it's free, and I always find a way to use everything they've been nice enough to give me. Besides it makes me appreciate the big ticket items when they come around.
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✭✭NoI recently started a second account on PC (originally on Xbox) with a brand new baby toon, and after being used to a bottomless craft bag full of whatever I might need, plus a maxed crafter with any recipe I could possibly want, these foods/potions have been a godsend. I can't imagine trying to level a new toon with nothing available to me but trash pots.
Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it doesn't help someone else. We need to learn to think more broadly when we're suggesting changes to this game.PC/Xbox NA
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✭✭NoWhat else are you going to replace them with?
The only thing I could see would instead of having like a meal be day 5 and day 26 have it build through the month. So the first 2-3 weeks is just meals and AP or stones then the last week are costumes, crates, pets etc
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesDMuehlhausen wrote: »What else are you going to replace them with?
The only thing I could see would instead of having like a meal be day 5 and day 26 have it build through the month. So the first 2-3 weeks is just meals and AP or stones then the last week are costumes, crates, pets etc
Other items of around the same value like potions, repair kits, mimic stones, etc. Those are useful for new and old alike.Edited by spartaxoxo on October 1, 2018 8:57PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Nospartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »There are newer players who do not have tons of matts for food and a stockpile soul gems.
More so, Zos could split the AP, Telvar and gold rewards in half to fill the days vacated by this request.
In other words, we will not get anymore and the current design does benefit newer and returning players.
New and returning players are often just given gems for free. If you ask for food in a dungeon, people will just give it to you, usually. I have helped many new players like that in my guild.
I actually think its worse to give to them that way, because it may delay them from getting a guild. This is because the amount of help and knowledge available from established players far exceeds what they'd get out of like 4 soul gems.
They are not given very much and you are making a huge assumption most new players enter the group dungeons. After seeing some of the crap posted in these forums about GF it is clear there are some players not so helpful.
You also make an assumption that these daily rewards somehow affects players looking for a guild.
Again, you will not get anything more if Zos would remove them. You would be required to log in the same number of days Zos decides and they would just split up the other rewards. It is not hurting you or anyone else. Seems like such a minor thing to complain about.
Edit: I must agree with Taleof2Cities below.
Many new players do group dungeons because the level up rewards tell them to do it. Dungeons is how many find baby's first guild.
I may be making assumption they'd add something else but its also a leap to say they wouldn't since they have a calendar to fill.
They could add something of equal value like mimic stones, potions, repair kits, etc. All stuff they have given out before and all more broadly useful.
It all comes down to you are getting something for free and it is not good enough for you so you want something better. That is exactly what you are saying.
Taleof@Cities was absolutely correct in his statement above.
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Donari✭✭✭✭YesI voted yes but I can see the point of totally new accounts having a use for these things. However, my 'yes' is contingent on there -not- being a replacement but instead getting a smaller number of total days required per month and thus fewer 'filler' days between the fun ones. I got the 100K gold in September but it was a bit stressful due to the lack of a cushion -- if I had missed a day or two earlier I'd likely have missed the final reward since this was my birthday weekend and I was out and about, not spending a lot of time at the computer.
October also only has a few days of flex but fortunately they haven't put the really interesting reward(s) at the very end, so while I'm likely to complete the whole month of logging in it will be more relaxing since I won't feel the intense pressure September created.0 -
Galaen_Frost✭✭✭NoOne mans junk is another's treasure. I use the food and the soul gems just like I use the repair crates.Wandering the lands of Tamriel, waiting for the hammer to drop.2 -
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✭✭✭I will actually use the daily reward consumables (pot, food) when doing pledges. Base game pledges generally aren't worth the better food, even on HM.0 -
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✭✭Can't talk, erecting a statue to honor uselss thingsHaving a bunch of filler is what lets the good stuff be better. If they take out the trash, the peaks would need to come down, to keep the overall effects on the game economy level.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yesspartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »There are newer players who do not have tons of matts for food and a stockpile soul gems.
More so, Zos could split the AP, Telvar and gold rewards in half to fill the days vacated by this request.
In other words, we will not get anymore and the current design does benefit newer and returning players.
New and returning players are often just given gems for free. If you ask for food in a dungeon, people will just give it to you, usually. I have helped many new players like that in my guild.
I actually think its worse to give to them that way, because it may delay them from getting a guild. This is because the amount of help and knowledge available from established players far exceeds what they'd get out of like 4 soul gems.
They are not given very much and you are making a huge assumption most new players enter the group dungeons. After seeing some of the crap posted in these forums about GF it is clear there are some players not so helpful.
You also make an assumption that these daily rewards somehow affects players looking for a guild.
Again, you will not get anything more if Zos would remove them. You would be required to log in the same number of days Zos decides and they would just split up the other rewards. It is not hurting you or anyone else. Seems like such a minor thing to complain about.
Edit: I must agree with Taleof2Cities below.
Many new players do group dungeons because the level up rewards tell them to do it. Dungeons is how many find baby's first guild.
I may be making assumption they'd add something else but its also a leap to say they wouldn't since they have a calendar to fill.
They could add something of equal value like mimic stones, potions, repair kits, etc. All stuff they have given out before and all more broadly useful.
It all comes down to you are getting something for free and it is not good enough for you so you want something better. That is exactly what you are saying.
Taleof@Cities was absolutely correct in his statement above.
It is not free. We paid for this game. It's also something that they added for their benefit because MMOs make more money if more people login. It is also requires you to do something that you may not normally do. That's why the incentives to login exist.
There really isn't any reason why I or others can't or shouldn't give feedback on making the existing daily login system (which most modern mmos have for years now) a little more interesting.
It's better to give that feedback now, while the system is new.
Edited by spartaxoxo on October 1, 2018 9:22PM2 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesHaving a bunch of filler is what lets the good stuff be better. If they take out the trash, the peaks would need to come down, to keep the overall effects on the game economy level.
Oh I agree, which is why I suggested replacing it with different filler. Something like crown repair kits are useful for everyone, new and old alike. And whose gonna be like "Man, I have so many repair kits that I don't even think Murkmire is special anymore." Ya, know?0 -
Gatviper✭✭✭✭Maybe SoMost of the rewards are trash anyway, though the crown food and soul gems are admittedly on the most useless side, seeing as you get soul gems thrown at you everywhere in the game like there's no tomorrow. And food, well, crown food is the same as crafted epic food which I'm not sure anyone even uses. It's either blue 2-stat food which has stronger values, or the witch food-drink for stronger regeneration.Life is a ride, like days in a train, cities rush by, like ghosts in the night.
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