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High Population Cities and the Culture They Cultivate

GuyNamedSean
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So, as an Xbox player, I really only get to interact with the Xbox community. I know that on Xbox we really only have two cities that you're guaranteed to find people assembling and chatting. Riften and Vulkhel Guard. I'm not exactly sure why it's those two cities, but I have my theories.

Unfortunately, those cities are also "renowned" for their culture. Both are widely known amongst Xbox players to be overflowing with trolls, goofballs, duel-addicts, and pretty much anyone else who doesn't have a social guild but needs that social interaction.

What I'm wondering is what cities have thriving communities on other platforms and what those cities are like. Does anyone have interesting stories about their system's community hotspots?
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  • weedgenius
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    How did I know this would be a thread about Riften and Vulkhel Guard? :lol:
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  • Katahdin
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    Not sure about Vulkhel Guard, but Riften is or was before housing, the RP Capitol of the game
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  • Mister_DMC
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    Weird, vulkel guard is only full of new players and Max CP trolls that want to duel new players. Riften is empty. Craglorn is the trials hub and money carry scene. Rawlkha is the crafting huh and my usual hangout. Wayrest, Mournhold and Elden root are the big trader cities and dungeon lfg hubs. Ps4 NA.
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Not sure about Vulkhel Guard, but Riften is or was before housing, the RP Capitol of the game

    Still is on PC.

    Yeah, this is weird though. On PCNA, the major hotspots are Belkarth, Mournhold, Rawl'kha, Eldenroot, and Wayrest, though not exactly in that order.
  • weedgenius
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    The strangest thing happened to me in Vulkhel Guard yesterday. I was running through while doing Fighters and the main quest on an alt and some dude was /yelling racial profanities. I /yelled "reported" and laughed to myself and kept going. Then like 5 minutes later I got a message from the account with 4,100 gold attached saying something to the effect of "Thank you for doing something about his temper. This is all the money he has, take it." LOL.... what?

    I felt guilty because I didn't actually report him :confused: but also NOT guilty because, I mean, it came from the account of the dude screaming racial profanities.

    BTW Should I send the gold back guys?? I still feel kinda bad... lol

    Just another day in Vulkhel Guard :unamused:

    edit: Here's a picture lol
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    Edited by weedgenius on September 28, 2018 7:47PM
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  • Imperial_Voice
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    I believe Riften sort of ended up in this position because at launch there were a disproportionate amount of EP players (Coming off the heels of Skyrim for Nord players and Morrowind nostalgia for Dunmer) and the storyline just sort of funneled all the high level EP players directly into Riften and since it was the most well equipped city at the time they stayed there as the main EP hub.
  • Katahdin
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Not sure about Vulkhel Guard, but Riften is or was before housing, the RP Capitol of the game

    Still is on PC.

    Yeah, this is weird though. On PCNA, the major hotspots are Belkarth, Mournhold, Rawl'kha, Eldenroot, and Wayrest, though not exactly in that order.

    Those hot spots make sense.

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  • weedgenius
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    Mister_DMC wrote: »
    Weird, vulkel guard is only full of new players and Max CP trolls that want to duel new players. Riften is empty. Craglorn is the trials hub and money carry scene. Rawlkha is the crafting huh and my usual hangout. Wayrest, Mournhold and Elden root are the big trader cities and dungeon lfg hubs. Ps4 NA.

    Huh... on PS4 NA Reaper's March is empty and Riften is most definitely as OP described (although OP does't touch on all the racism and homophobia).
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  • DMuehlhausen
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    Hmm on PC NA it's the 3 capital cities and they are always crowded.

    Even a lot of other side cities there are quite a few people.
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    For many of the reasons listed above, when in cities I put on my virtual 'blinders' and get in and out as quickly as possible.

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  • Sirvys
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    Unfortunately, those cities are also "renowned" for their culture. Both are widely known amongst Xbox players to be overflowing with trolls, goofballs, duel-addicts, and pretty much anyone else who doesn't have a social guild but needs that social interaction.?

    I believe the word you were looking for is "notorious".
  • GuyNamedSean
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    I feel like I'm partially responsible for Riften becoming what it is on Xbox. Back when the game came out, I led regular marches from Davon's Watch up to Riften so people could be introduced to Skyrim. I started that on the second day of the game and there was no one there. Didn't take long for it to be very populated.
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  • BretonMage
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    I think many of the high population cities are like that. I've seen/heard trolling in Daggerfall and Wayrest as well.

    I love big cities in real life, but I have to say they're quite different in ESO. In ESO I tend to breath a sigh of relief when I get to idyllic little towns like Fell's Run.
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Not sure about Vulkhel Guard, but Riften is or was before housing, the RP Capitol of the game

    Still is on PC.

    Yeah, this is weird though. On PCNA, the major hotspots are Belkarth, Mournhold, Rawl'kha, Eldenroot, and Wayrest, though not exactly in that order.

    Those hot spots make sense.

    All major guild store hubs and Crag=trials hub

    Crag is, or was, a pretty major trading hub on PCNA. It trends towards high value, endgame items. Which is kind of weird, because most guild stores don't specialize, in any meaningful way.
    I believe Riften sort of ended up in this position because at launch there were a disproportionate amount of EP players (Coming off the heels of Skyrim for Nord players and Morrowind nostalgia for Dunmer) and the storyline just sort of funneled all the high level EP players directly into Riften and since it was the most well equipped city at the time they stayed there as the main EP hub.

    Back at launch, players tended to congregate at their final alliance cities. So, Riften, Rawl'Kha, and Evermore. The Undaunted Enclaves ended that, and basically killed Evermore and Riften as trade hubs.

    Weirdly, Riften was not the original PCNA RP capital that it is now. Used to be you'd run across them in Sentinel and Wayrest a lot. Now it's Riften. I guess they were chased out of the others by PvPer harassment, but honestly, not sure. It's weird.
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    I would agree with Belkarth, Mournhold, Rawl'kha, Eldenroot, and Wayrest being active places for crowds to congregate on PC NA. However...you should also add to that Alinor. Alinor has become a hot spot, especially with crafters (since all the crafting stations & the daily writ delivery area are very close together).
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    Huh... on PS4 NA Reaper's March is empty and Riften is most definitely as OP described (although OP does't touch on all the racism and homophobia).

    In my experience (PS4 NA), all three factions starting area (Auridon, Glenumbra, and Stonefalls) are like what the OP described. Riften only has occasional flare ups.
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  • GuyNamedSean
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    What's interesting is the only cities on Xbox that you can ever really find people talking in are Riften and Vulkhel. Davon's Watch occasionally has people, but everywhere else is almost completely dead.
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  • DragonRacer
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    The strangest thing happened to me in Vulkhel Guard yesterday. I was running through while doing Fighters and the main quest on an alt and some dude was /yelling racial profanities. I /yelled "reported" and laughed to myself and kept going. Then like 5 minutes later I got a message from the account titled "Thanks" with 4,100 gold attached and inside it said something to the effect of "Thank you for doing something about his temper. This is all the money he has, take it." LOL.... what?

    I felt guilty because I didn't actually report him :confused: but also NOT guilty because, I mean, it came from the account of the dude screaming racial profanities.

    BTW Should I send the gold back guys?? I still feel kinda bad... lol

    Just another day in Vulkhel Guard :unamused:

    That's hilarious. Sounds like an ESO-playing parent came in and saw/heard what went down, probably sent the kid off to time-out and then rewarded you with their kid's character's gold. LOL
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  • Feric51
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    That's why I stage all my characters in Marbruk, Greenshade. Decent population flow through there, but mostly quiet on area chat (at least when I actually bother to un-mute it). It's been my "home" city for 2 years even though I have every wayshrine unlocked, been everywhere, etc. It just feels like a quaint little village.
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  • Jinchuu
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    What's interesting is the only cities on Xbox that you can ever really find people talking in are Riften and Vulkhel. Davon's Watch occasionally has people, but everywhere else is almost completely dead.

    Elden Root tends to pick up late afternoon and early evening EST, I don't really bother going to the other cities because they're full of weirdos (racist, homphobic, xenophobic etc. spam in Riften and people trying to cyber in Vulkhel are why I never go there unless I absolutely have to).
    Unless you are willing to be a mindless sycophant and/or coddle others due to their insecurities prepare to be harrased by the Orwellian enforcers on these forums. You should also try to refrain from using any words more complex than those used by a small child due to the fact that said enforcers have made it clear that their vocabulary pool is aenemic.
  • weedgenius
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    The strangest thing happened to me in Vulkhel Guard yesterday. I was running through while doing Fighters and the main quest on an alt and some dude was /yelling racial profanities. I /yelled "reported" and laughed to myself and kept going. Then like 5 minutes later I got a message from the account titled "Thanks" with 4,100 gold attached and inside it said something to the effect of "Thank you for doing something about his temper. This is all the money he has, take it." LOL.... what?

    I felt guilty because I didn't actually report him :confused: but also NOT guilty because, I mean, it came from the account of the dude screaming racial profanities.

    BTW Should I send the gold back guys?? I still feel kinda bad... lol

    Just another day in Vulkhel Guard :unamused:

    That's hilarious. Sounds like an ESO-playing parent came in and saw/heard what went down, probably sent the kid off to time-out and then rewarded you with their kid's character's gold. LOL

    @DragonRacer I know right? It was crazy. I edited my first comment to include a screencap lol.... just bizarre
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    Feric51 wrote: »
    That's why I stage all my characters in Marbruk, Greenshade. Decent population flow through there, but mostly quiet on area chat (at least when I actually bother to un-mute it). It's been my "home" city for 2 years even though I have every wayshrine unlocked, been everywhere, etc. It just feels like a quaint little village.
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  • DragonRacer
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    weedgenius wrote: »
    The strangest thing happened to me in Vulkhel Guard yesterday. I was running through while doing Fighters and the main quest on an alt and some dude was /yelling racial profanities. I /yelled "reported" and laughed to myself and kept going. Then like 5 minutes later I got a message from the account titled "Thanks" with 4,100 gold attached and inside it said something to the effect of "Thank you for doing something about his temper. This is all the money he has, take it." LOL.... what?

    I felt guilty because I didn't actually report him :confused: but also NOT guilty because, I mean, it came from the account of the dude screaming racial profanities.

    BTW Should I send the gold back guys?? I still feel kinda bad... lol

    Just another day in Vulkhel Guard :unamused:

    That's hilarious. Sounds like an ESO-playing parent came in and saw/heard what went down, probably sent the kid off to time-out and then rewarded you with their kid's character's gold. LOL

    @DragonRacer I know right? It was crazy. I edited my first comment to include a screencap lol.... just bizarre

    I mean, it’s gotta either be that or multiple personalities. LOL
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  • FloppyTouch
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    Craglorn is very busy on xb na too
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    I'm happy with Vivec City. The crafting area's a nice tight circle, the stable and wayshrine are close.... A tight crafting circle is important since I run it on 9 girls daily!

    Oh - VERY close banking too!
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    Craglorn
    A place of adventure and annoyed farmers. You can find people pugging trials here from nCR to vMOL. Other times, you see people out a window only cause they didn't want to take stairs.

    Riften

    There seems to always be duels here, some roleplayers and werwolves wandering around here.

    Garthwood
    Occasionally dance parties and questions about what is the meaning of life.

    Aurdion
    A bit of polictics, dolemen fair train, and lots of guild notices

    Rawkla: reapers march
    There's emote battles or fashion show off on pride rock. Also lots of trading going on in zone like. Come here to go shopping and quick access to bank.

    Riverspire
    There's seems to be abudance or Sorcs and boss farmers

    Allkir
    Dolmen farmers and some lvl farming locations

    Desshan
    Always a rowdy bunch, with more pledge offers then the other main cities

    Wayrest
    Don't go here often, but I feel like it attracts the city like people based on what I see in zone yet. There's also some murders wandering around.

    Morrowind: vivec

    Easy place to do writs and bg merchant close by.

    Bal foyen

    Not much here but starting off it a great place to live, with lots of players enjoying the closest stations and bank near house. Its got lots more, but never leave anything important in safedespit here.
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Garthwood
    Occasionally dance parties and questions about what is the meaning of life.

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  • Hoolielulu
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    The strangest thing happened to me in Vulkhel Guard yesterday. I was running through while doing Fighters and the main quest on an alt and some dude was /yelling racial profanities. I /yelled "reported" and laughed to myself and kept going. Then like 5 minutes later I got a message from the account with 4,100 gold attached saying something to the effect of "Thank you for doing something about his temper. This is all the money he has, take it." LOL.... what?

    I felt guilty because I didn't actually report him :confused: but also NOT guilty because, I mean, it came from the account of the dude screaming racial profanities.

    BTW Should I send the gold back guys?? I still feel kinda bad... lol

    Just another day in Vulkhel Guard :unamused:

    edit: Here's a picture lol
    egUFSFx.png

    I suppose temper is in quotes because using the word racist made them uncomfortable?
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    Daggerfall xbox na also usually has that vibe music bsing and duels. Wayrest lots of dueling by Undaunted.
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  • seherrons
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    I'm on PS4 EU and Vulkhel Guard always appears to be the main hub for dueling players, too. I actually don't think I've ever seen any other city/town with so many players wanting to battle it out :D Also I don't play the game listening to the zone voice chats, but in terms of the actual zone text chats, Stormhaven has had a few... uh... memorable tales to tell in the past. Speaking of Stormhaven actually, I tend to see more players queuing up at the guild traders in Wayrest than I have in either Elden Root or Mournhold.

    But in terms of people just being people and goofing off, I see lots of crime sprees and people giving the guards their daily 30 mins of exercise in Vivec City, as well as the occasional flute/lute/drum off between players by the bank. If you're lucky, you may also be just in time to catch first row seats to watch the group of sorcs somehow managing to teleport themselves on top of that large tower thing next to the blacksmithing station in Vivec City as well ;) Bless 'em.
    Edited by seherrons on September 29, 2018 12:34AM
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