ZOS please give us something to deal with the gazillion set drops!

spoqster · September 2018

My preferred solution would be to make set-items researchable, so that once you researched it, that particular combination of piece, weight and trait would be added to your account, so that it could be crafted again later on.

That would simplify inventory management and create a new completionist motivation inviting players to get all the sets in the game.

Taleof2Cities · September 2018

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

weedgenius · September 2018

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

How many people have fifteen characters, let alone fifteen characters with upgraded mounts? Your math is grossly unrealistic.

weedgenius · September 2018

Also why should “make 14 new characters” be the way to deal with ZOS’s unsatisfactory inventory/storage options/UI? Yikes.

Wolfpaw · September 2018

spoqster wrote: »

My preferred solution would be to make set-items researchable, so that once you researched it, that particular combination of piece, weight and trait would be added to your account, so that it could be crafted again later on.

That would simplify inventory management and create a new completionist motivation inviting players to get all the sets in the game.

Yes please.

DanteYoda · September 2018

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

You live in a dream land..

VaranisArano · September 2018

weedgenius wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

How many people have fifteen characters, let alone fifteen characters with upgraded mounts? Your math is grossly unrealistic.

Unrealistic, maybe. But entirely available within the scope of the game Without changing anything? Yeah.

Inventory management issues are created to drive us towards ESO+. Either you subscribe, or you make do with the inventory slots available.

I dont subscribe. Full bank. Ive got 11 characters, 8 of which have around 110 bag slots. The other 3 are maxed. Ive got all the housing storage boxes. No personal guild bank.

I've got about 2000 storage slots. Somehow, I manage to fill quite a lot of them because Im a hoarder. And, I make do. I save crafting mats, mostly, and only keep set pieces I know I'll need or that are harder to get.

If I needed more storage, I could be more diligent with my mount training, for one. I could spend gold on bag space for my alts.

Edited to add: Now, is the current inventory management system ideal? Yes, for ZOS. Because it rewards subscribers and encourages players to subscribe.

Left4Daud · September 2018

I know about min-maxing the amount of inventory slots to the player, that is not the problem.

The problem is how annoying and boring it is to play Inventory Management Online.

So yeah, a few weeks ago I went and deconned all the sets I’ve been saving that I might need one day.

I got to the point where I would rather be faced with re-farming something I once had that got buffed, than to keep shuffling gear sets between my alts.

DeadlyRecluse · September 2018

Store them, sell them, decon them, vendor them.

That's a fair amount of options.

MLGProPlayer · September 2018

Just decon/sell the *** you don't need. Most sets are junk.

rumple9 · September 2018

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Just decon/sell the *** you don't need. Most sets are junk.

Not the way zos keeps changing stuff around. For example a year ago bsw was considered junk - now it's bis again. Spriggans has been in and out of favour numerous times. Same with worm and spell power cure.

Look at the people who trashed their training VMA staves and well fitted monster helms but we now have transmutation.

I like to keep sets I've grinded hours for and simply want more space even if it's only more housing chests.

sp_korshun · September 2018

weedgenius wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

How many people have fifteen characters, let alone fifteen characters with upgraded mounts? Your math is grossly unrealistic.

Btw i have 15 chars with upgraded mounts etc. In fact i have these 3840 slots + 1 guild bank + craft bag, and you know i would like at least couple more upgrades to every char inventory space and to bank space also. Imho there's too much stuff in game that you need to hold for using now or in future, but we have not enough space for it.

Acrolas · September 2018

Most sets in the game were not designed to be given the Xerox treatment. That's why they're earned through activities or randomly found in containers. ESO+ gets more inventory, but ultimately inventory is all about opportunity costs. Giving something up so that you can store something else.

And you should probably apologize to the couple of former Marvel Heroes players who are traumatized just by hearing that word.

MLGProPlayer · September 2018

rumple9 wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Just decon/sell the *** you don't need. Most sets are junk.

Not the way zos keeps changing stuff around. For example a year ago bsw was considered junk - now it's bis again. Spriggans has been in and out of favour numerous times. Same with worm and spell power cure.

Look at the people who trashed their training VMA staves and well fitted monster helms but we now have transmutation.

I like to keep sets I've grinded hours for and simply want more space even if it's only more housing chests.

Obviously keep sets that were in the meta once before. There aren't that many of those sets. Stick 1-2 on each character and you're good to go.

Kiralyn2000 · September 2018

weedgenius wrote: »

How many people have fifteen characters, let alone fifteen characters with upgraded mounts? Your math is grossly unrealistic.

If you're obsessed enough to try to keep lots of sets, you're obsessed enough to at least max out your 8 base character slots.

abigfishy · September 2018

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

Ah can you please use your excellent maths skills to tell me how much it would cost to get that amount of storage. For a typical player a bank of 100 (mostly full of mats) and 8 toons with 80 spaces each gives a total of 740 but unless you play your characters with 0 inventory spaces about half that is usable storage. Not everyone is a whale, the Tuna need storage space too.

LuxLunae · September 2018

spoqster wrote: »

My preferred solution would be to make set-items researchable, so that once you researched it, that particular combination of piece, weight and trait would be added to your account, so that it could be crafted again later on.

That would simplify inventory management and create a new completionist motivation inviting players to get all the sets in the game.

Hey do you know why they don't do that? How are they going to make you interact with the newer players to refarm certain items that have changed in the patch notes? Also the more stuff zos makes to hold, the more they will make you want to subscribe for the extra added space.

Me, I have all my chars filled with sets and such. Some time this week I am going to destroy them all. The only things I am not going to destroy was the ones that came hard to get.

Sometimes my RNG is so damn good...like I got a restoration staff of the lich and a guy pms me and asks for it.

Yeah zos now lets other people see what loot drops at the final boss... Anyways long story short... I was like "I already have one of these that I don't use anyways...it would probably be destroyed...so I guess you can have it..." Then I waited over 30 mins for him to finish another dungeon...

He said he needed it for pvp...So I asked him to please tell me how it works in pvp I am dying to know.

Some hours later in cyro somebody attacked me from behind with templar rush, I broke free and turned around. Then I saw him dead on the ground in pvp XD.

firedrgn · September 2018

I suggest more bag space each dlc and chapter upgrade like cp points . 30 per upgrade.

Make it retro active
Thanks

efster · September 2018

ATTUNABLE MANNEQUINS

*pickets*

ZonasArch · September 2018

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

Dude, come back to reality. If anyone spend that amount of money on crowns for the toon slots and 9 other accounts for personal guild bank, this person should start by getting smart and subbing cuz it's cheaper and a lot more cost effective on long run when it gets more expensive, for sure.

No... You're thinking everyone is a rich dumb whale, and that's not true at flipping all. Not by ANY stretch you're even remotely close to reality.

Freaking alienated kids...

Mirelurk · September 2018

spoqster wrote: »

My preferred solution would be to make set-items researchable, so that once you researched it, that particular combination of piece, weight and trait would be added to your account, so that it could be crafted again later on.

That would simplify inventory management and create a new completionist motivation inviting players to get all the sets in the game.

This is actually a really good idea. To counter the criticism that it would stop people from running content repeatedly I'd suggest making some sort of required item/stone/key/whatever that drops from pledges or somesuch.

spoqster · September 2018

Mirelurk wrote: »

spoqster wrote: »

My preferred solution would be to make set-items researchable, so that once you researched it, that particular combination of piece, weight and trait would be added to your account, so that it could be crafted again later on.

That would simplify inventory management and create a new completionist motivation inviting players to get all the sets in the game.

This is actually a really good idea. To counter the criticism that it would stop people from running content repeatedly I'd suggest making some sort of required item/stone/key/whatever that drops from pledges or somesuch.

I don't really see an issue with people not wanting to replay old content, in fact they might just be more interested in doing so, because there would now be that new carrot of completing your set research.

Apart from that I like your idea. It would be a good solution if they do find that replay numbers are dropping after the change. The only thing I'm a bit wary of is the introduction of yet another currency into the game as there already are too many.

Arrodisia · September 2018

One solution to our inventory could be to make a set collection closet in our homes. All set items from dungeons and trials we get will be available to use in that closet in the traits we got them in and only in blue because it might be too difficult to add every quality per piece as well. if we want better traits and quality then we would need to transmute, upgrade, and/or farm it out again to unlock it in the collections. At least they won't clog up the inventory wile we're farming anymore.

ceera_rayhne · September 2018

Probably not the solution you're looking for, but some sets can be crafted if you find their crafting stations. (If you get
attunable stations you can get that particular set stations in your house) Although I'm guessing you are only taking about sets that only drop as loot.
I definitely would love to be able to collect set bits as research.

znrk · September 2018

Mannequin home furnishing with name tags. :->

Hotdog_23 · September 2018

Considering their is 100 dropped set and 40+ crafted sets not including 3 piece sets, monster helms, special weapons. Which BTW all of it drops in different traits and weights in some sets. Plus potions poisons master writs surveys treasure maps, furniture and more I am not listing.

It would be nice if we did not have to manage bank space so much. I think we need more space or at least more home storage bins we could use.

Datthaw · September 2018

I go by this rule

If it's a decent set I think I will use at some point I keep weapons and jewels, they have the lowest drop rate from what I have experienced. Anything else is deconned.

spoqster · September 2018

Left4Daud wrote: »

I know about min-maxing the amount of inventory slots to the player, that is not the problem.

The problem is how annoying and boring it is to play Inventory Management Online.

So yeah, a few weeks ago I went and deconned all the sets I’ve been saving that I might need one day.

I got to the point where I would rather be faced with re-farming something I once had that got buffed, than to keep shuffling gear sets between my alts.

Inventory Managment Online. Well put! I call it Inventory Manager Tycoon 4000 when I complain to my friends, but it's the same point. :-)

If I end up playing a whole weekend, doing lots of dungeon runs, battlegrounds and a few trials, I'll end up spending at least 5 hours (in total) of that time managing my inventory space. And I'm not exaggerating. I've paid attention and watched the clock. That's the number from the last 3 times I played a full weekend.

If you'd have a car that would require so much repair, that for every 15 hours of driving, you'd to spend 5 hours repairing it, you'd sell it.

Knootewoot · September 2018

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

The amount of inventory is not the only issue here. Also that you cannot sort on item name. I have a bank full of armor and i want to check if i got all my julianos gear there... they are not on the same place. "Gloves" are sorted with other armor gloves. Some named items, like Kena's shoulder and helmer are close to eachother. But for some armors i have to scroll through the enitre screen to find them.

It would be great to be able to craft 15 or 20 slot coffers which could be renamed to "Julianos armor" or whatever you want so i can put all my Julianos stuff in that coffer. And that coffer, filled with 20 items max, should then take only 1 inventory space.

Same as guild stores.... seaarching is a ***.

VaranisArano · September 2018

abigfishy wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Just wanted to recap how much inventory space players actually have without the crafting bag ... since these kinds of threads get somewhat tiring:

- 15 characters with in-game gold or crown purchased bag upgrades (up to 140 each character) = 2,100 slots
- Mount bag space upgrades (15 mounts x 60) = 900 slots
- Personal bank space (with upgrades & ESO+) = 480 slots
- Home storage bins = 360 slots

Total: 3,840

Personal Guild Banks = 500 slots each (up to 2,500); limit of 5 guild banks

If a player doesn't have any personal guild banks, we're still approaching 3,900 inventory slots ... not including the crafting bag or stacked inventory.

So, the first question for any player feeling constricted on inventory ... have you hit 3,840 character and bank slots yet? Even without ESO+ you’d only subtract the double bank space (240 slots).

If you can't manage what you have in that allotment of inventory slots that's your own fault [shrug].

Ah can you please use your excellent maths skills to tell me how much it would cost to get that amount of storage. For a typical player a bank of 100 (mostly full of mats) and 8 toons with 80 spaces each gives a total of 740 but unless you play your characters with 0 inventory spaces about half that is usable storage. Not everyone is a whale, the Tuna need storage space too.

Ooh, a math question?

I'm going to use my stats above, since mine aren't maxed but are fairly reasonable.

3 extra character slots: 4,500 crowns
Full bank space: 768,500 gold
8 characters at 110 bag spaces: 38,500 gold ea.
3 characters bags maxed: 194,700 gold ea.
All the housing storage: This I'm not certain of because I bought them with Writ Vouchers and I didnt pay attention to how much I spent. These cost 1,100 writ vouchers, so at approx. 500 gold per voucher, that was 550,000 gold total.

Total Slots: about 2000
My total cost: approximately 4,500 crowns and 2,210,600 gold.

Now, to be perfectly blunt, 2 million looks like a lot. I farm, a lot. Right now, I've got 6 million, and thats with me spending a lot on motifs and housing. If you have time to put into this game, making 2 million is definitely within reach.

So what can a "Tuna" player do? Use your 8 character slots. Be diligent with your mount training, that's 60 slots for only 15,000 gold on each character (over 60 days). Buy the cheaper bag space upgrades.

Most of all, a "Tuna" player needs to either make gold or subscribe. Thats really all there is to it. Either you farm, trade, and sell enough gold to build up your inventory enough to avoid much of the pain points of limited inventory OR you subscribe so mats are in the crafting bag and you get double bank space.

Thats by design, by the way. ZOS wants you to subscribe, or failing that, spend a lot of time grinding the gold to avoid the need to subscribe.

Imperial_Voice · September 2018

Use crowns to buy chests for your home. Problem solved. (No not really, dont kill me it was a joke)