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Did Shields needed cast time?

Prabooo
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really?

Did Shields needed cast time? 177 votes

Yes
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No
79%
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Maybe
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  • VaranisArano
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    Probably not.

    But did we really need another poll?
  • Gilvoth
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    No
    i Hate sorcerers, i love killing them.
    but i do not agree with the 1 second delay on shield casting.
    infact, if that 1 second delay on shield casting goes live then it will be a trickle down effecT.
    eventually leading to alot of very serious problems with elderscrolls online and may even be fatal for sorcerers and and up being fatal for all classes.


    Edited by Gilvoth on September 18, 2018 11:17PM
  • Prabooo
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    No
    Probably not.

    But did we really need another poll?

    I want more forum stars
  • VaranisArano
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    Prabooo wrote: »
    Probably not.

    But did we really need another poll?

    I want more forum stars

    Gotta strike while the iron is hot.
  • Banana
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    No
    Prabooo wrote: »
    Probably not.

    But did we really need another poll?

    I want more forum stars

    I need 50 insightfuls. But Im not very insightful.
  • ruikkarikun
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    No
    I have a lot "insightful" for you all. Enjoy
  • Warganic
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    Yes
    How many shields got cast time?
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  • Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO
    Yes
    Warganic wrote: »
    How many shields got cast time?

    2 I believe, the sorcerer's ward and the light armor shield. I don't recall seeing others with a cast time on them... But I may have missed them.
  • Itzmichi
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    Maybe
    we should stop opening the 17373838282929³ thread?!
    Edited by Itzmichi on September 21, 2018 11:13PM
    Here, have a chill pill 💊!
  •  Jules
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    No
    Looks like it's pretty unanimously a 'no, this was not necessary' - from even people who hate sorcs.
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  • Vesper_BR
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    Yes
    A colldown or a cast time... That's my opinion. And dont come here telling me that no skills have cooldow... Go and play a mag dk before telling me this...

    A colldown would be preferable by me, since we could still use shields as a reacting machanic but only for a short period of time to get a space or received healing/support.
    Edited by Vesper_BR on September 22, 2018 5:12PM
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  • Tonturri
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    No
    Vesper_BR wrote: »
    A colldown or a cast time... That's my opinion. And dont come here telling me that no skills have cooldow... Go and play a mag dk before telling me this...

    A colldown would be preferable by me, since we could still use shields as a reacting machanic but only for a short period of time to get a space or received healing/support.

    I've played a magdk. None of their skills have cooldowns unless you count that flame lash proc thing. Counting that, sorc frags and nb bow also have a cooldown, but let's not go there.

    Still though, why do you think shields should have a cooldown or cast time? What was wrong with them before?
  • Kadoin
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    No
    They needed a nerf, but not cast time lol...Still, I can understand why ZOS went that route.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    No
    I don't think cast-time was the correct solution but its about time shields got an overhaul. Shield crit and resistance was ALONG time coming.

    There was 0 reason to run a crit build since so many players in pvp had shields.





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  • LiquidPony
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    No
    I don't understand why they didn't go with an existing solution like ... stacking costs.

    Dodging multiple times consecutively scales the cost up. Streaking multiple times consecutively scales the cost up.

    Why not just scale up the cost of shields dramatically on consecutive casts? That way, you can still shield *once* reactively, but doing so repeatedly becomes prohibitively expensive.

    This prevents shield stacking in PvP and shield spamming in PvE.

    The cast time change is awful. Cast times in general are awful in this game.
  • werzui
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    No
    i say no to the casttime of shields especially that one from the sorcs that looks like u take a dump while casting it :D

    but honestly if they really think a casttime is the way to balance shields then pls for the love of JESUS make the casttime like 0.1 or 0.2 seconds, that way its not stacked that fast and can be interrupted but is still fast enougth for pve content like trials or vma mechanics that are too fast for that 1 sec delay.
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  • OFFL1MIT
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    No
    I didnt have any issue killing sorcs, you either CC and blast them, or just play with them until their resources gets low and nuke them with a combo.
    about pve - trials, dungeons that matter Im no sure , you can ofcourse escape of some of the mechanics from dungeons, trails, but not all of it. If it will go live, it will have BIG impact for a community, alot of people will leave, because it will be a sign that zos dont care about people and who are more experienced at this game than them. So no, even sorc is not my main class.
  • Lifemocker
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    No
    Imo they could've just put the cost increase if being spammed, like in streak.
  • shaielzafine
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    No
    If ESO continues with the cast times and it becomes more & more like other mmo's cast times & global cooldowns for abilities, then I may as well just stay logged on to WoW. Being able to animation cancel, dodge & have spammable abilities like shields made ESO's combat significantly different from other MMOs. With the lag and server performance, a 1 second cast time is more like 3-5, of it even gets cast at all (looking at you, sprint bug and skill lag). This wasn't a change people cried out for, and it's very clunky on the pts. Very poor idea
  • StamWhipCultist
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    Yes
    Yes. Maybe not entire second but some cast time is indeed solid solution for shieldstacking. Now they have to use brain and not just scrub over keyboard. In few months this will make sorcs become better or leave the class. Its good for ESO, in PvE there will be no more zero healer runs or light armor sorc tanks. In PvP they will jump no more.
  • mlsweet
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    No
    The only way I would "accept" a shield cast time (it's a terrible idea, game is too fast and that gameplay is not fun) is if magsorcs reclaimed their mobility with streak.

    Remove consecutive streak costs or dramatically reduce them. Remove streak delay for rapid streaking.

    If we can't stand our ground and shield up, give us the "strategic" ability to LOS and reapply them.

    Also, a magicka based weapon ability snare removal would be great.

    But I would rather nuke the cast time and keep my crappy streak.
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  • AcadianPaladin
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    No
    This thread rather confirms my gut feel that the only problem with shields is PvP and the answer is (as ever) balance PvP and PvE separately. That said, even many PvPers are saying shields are not a problem. As a PvEer, I certainly don't see a problem in PvE. Cast time on shields to make healers relevant?!? How many times do we have to say that the inability to heal a one shot mechanic is the healer's problem. Who in PvE cares if mages are shielded up or not? To believe that a cast time on shields will make healers more relevant is absurd.
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  • Prabooo
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    No
    Cast time on shields to make healers relevant?!? How many times do we have to say that the inability to heal a one shot mechanic is the healer's problem. Who in PvE cares if mages are shielded up or not? To believe that a cast time on shields will make healers more relevant is absurd.

    This is so evident, so obvious to the people that play the game … This shield nerf is totally bollocks ...

  • Starlock
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    Maybe
    Needed? Nothing is ever technically needed as far as game mechanics changes go. A wise idea? Probably, but not a change I would have suggested. Don’t really care either way, as this change will not impact me significantly as a non-competitive player.
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