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Do you care about the summerfall event and the house?

  • peasant007
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    No
    I answered with "No" because I don't care, personally. I don't like the super huge houses, especially since I struggle to decorate the small, one room houses. I never use the pets, and the mount will collect dust with my other mystical looking mounts that don't fit with any of my characters.

    However, I still got the achievement because I know that others DO care. I DO like it when the community comes together to try to achieve a goal.

    In other words, I probably should have voted with "Other" but I can't change my vote.
  • JackOfAllGames
    JackOfAllGames
    Soul Shriven
    Yes
    Yes. I'm interested in the house. I'd like to play around with one of the larger houses in the game (which I assume this is), but there's no way I'd pay what they normally want for one.
    Edited by JackOfAllGames on September 24, 2018 7:52PM
  • inthecoconut
    inthecoconut
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    Yes
    I don't like big houses, but free is free, and I also I know a lot of other people love decorating so I hope we can get it for them!
  • Ydrisselle
    Ydrisselle
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    Yes
    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy doing various events and breaks the slow drag of other areas in the game, but I genuinely just don't care about the rewards in this event.

    I rather get 200 transmute crystals than another house. Perhaps I'm biased because I already have a house (nothing huge, just Mournhold Keep) and that's plenty for me. Also, since I've already completed this achievement a while ago I don't feel like there's anymore I can do.
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Housing and pets are things that I don't care about in ESO and because of that I won't be upset at all if event fails. Done pathfinder on EU long time ago but I really don't have motivation to do in on NA, there's nothing in it for me.
    No, not really.
    Got my achievement back in the days on Na server, there is no way I'm going to create a toon in the eu server.
    Did my share, don't really care about pet, Mount or the house.

    @MooseKnuckles88 @Lettigall @MinarasLaure

    You all can do it for the community, for your friends and guild mates. There could be an event in ESO with your favourite in-game activity, and mybe there would be a reward for your liking... that you won't get because people wouldn't be interested in something they don't really like to do. Changeing region, creating a toon and finishing the tutorial, then grabbing the achievement can be done in an hour, and that helps for a couple ten thousands of fellow players...
  • Girl_Number8
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    Don’t think we’ll get the house, therefore don’t care
    No interest whatsoever. The PTS patch notes and the developer's current direction of the game have left a fairly bad taste in my mouth. It's really taken the wind out of my sails for this game overall (and I've been here since beta).

    To me, it almost feels like they made this event as a distraction for some of the incredibly upending, game-breaking changes that are coming with Murkmire. But that's my opinion.

    P.S. I already did the achievement a while back, so I'm not hindering anything for the rest of you. I just don't care anymore...

    That ~^

    Did the achievement on both servers~
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on September 24, 2018 10:36PM
  • Sirona_Starr
    Sirona_Starr
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    Yes
    I'm just going to drop a two cents here. I am sure there will be people ready to trash. Of course, I want the rewards, and a community wide event, is something new and different. I've read sour grapes thoughts, "I'm too lazy, I'm bitter at changes to the game, not interested in the rewards," blah, blah, blah.

    In each instance of "no" or something similar, it was completely self focused, and the point of it, is a community based event. You don't want the horse? Don't use it. You don't want the house? Don't go there. This is something for players to strive for together, because someone else out there, might, just might want it. It takes little time to get the achievement with all the people out there helping each other, on both servers, and I'm sure other platforms.

    Why do I write this? Well, for starters, I've had some really negative in game experiences, dungeon experiences, in game chat can be horrible, and the forums, well, it can be quite the negative boo hoo zone............ Rightly so in some cases, for sure. I am on the receiving end of some of weeping changes. This is not about ZOS. This is about the community.

    I loved the concept, and I decided to spend my in game time today, trying to help others get the achievement as easily as possible. I had the most amazing, positive day in this game EVER!!!! What did I do? for the first bit, took solo players around, but for the most part, joined a group that had ppl positioned at most of the wayshrines, and then grouped people. So, I stood at the shrine in Artaeum, for a few hours, and it was the BEST TIME!!! So positive, so many players helping each other, happy, grateful, sharing, and no stupid negative stuff. Even if the house isn't achieved (and I think it will be), I was given a gift of positive, helpful, gratitude, fun, laughter, team spirit, community spirit, cooperation, that I will treasure and never forget. :smile:<3

    I may just do it again tomorrow :smiley:

    Thank you ZOS!!!







  • Lettigall
    Lettigall
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    No
    Ydrisselle wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy doing various events and breaks the slow drag of other areas in the game, but I genuinely just don't care about the rewards in this event.

    I rather get 200 transmute crystals than another house. Perhaps I'm biased because I already have a house (nothing huge, just Mournhold Keep) and that's plenty for me. Also, since I've already completed this achievement a while ago I don't feel like there's anymore I can do.
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Housing and pets are things that I don't care about in ESO and because of that I won't be upset at all if event fails. Done pathfinder on EU long time ago but I really don't have motivation to do in on NA, there's nothing in it for me.
    No, not really.
    Got my achievement back in the days on Na server, there is no way I'm going to create a toon in the eu server.
    Did my share, don't really care about pet, Mount or the house.

    @MooseKnuckles88 @Lettigall @MinarasLaure

    You all can do it for the community, for your friends and guild mates. There could be an event in ESO with your favourite in-game activity, and mybe there would be a reward for your liking... that you won't get because people wouldn't be interested in something they don't really like to do. Changeing region, creating a toon and finishing the tutorial, then grabbing the achievement can be done in an hour, and that helps for a couple ten thousands of fellow players...

    Sorry but I don't want to waste an hour of my time for something I don't have zero interest in and if the time come, I will respect what other people do with their valuable time.
    Some men just want to watch the world burn... I just want a cold beer!
  • StamWhipCultist
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    Yes

    Lettigall wrote: »
    Ydrisselle wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy doing various events and breaks the slow drag of other areas in the game, but I genuinely just don't care about the rewards in this event.

    I rather get 200 transmute crystals than another house. Perhaps I'm biased because I already have a house (nothing huge, just Mournhold Keep) and that's plenty for me. Also, since I've already completed this achievement a while ago I don't feel like there's anymore I can do.
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Housing and pets are things that I don't care about in ESO and because of that I won't be upset at all if event fails. Done pathfinder on EU long time ago but I really don't have motivation to do in on NA, there's nothing in it for me.
    No, not really.
    Got my achievement back in the days on Na server, there is no way I'm going to create a toon in the eu server.
    Did my share, don't really care about pet, Mount or the house.

    @MooseKnuckles88 @Lettigall @MinarasLaure

    You all can do it for the community, for your friends and guild mates. There could be an event in ESO with your favourite in-game activity, and mybe there would be a reward for your liking... that you won't get because people wouldn't be interested in something they don't really like to do. Changeing region, creating a toon and finishing the tutorial, then grabbing the achievement can be done in an hour, and that helps for a couple ten thousands of fellow players...

    Sorry but I don't want to waste an hour of my time for something I don't have zero interest in and if the time come, I will respect what other people do with their valuable time.

    Yet you wasted 3-5 minutes here to write that down. Guess that 3-5 minutes were not important to you.
  • HappyLittleTree
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    Yes
    I've done my part. Not for me but for everyone else :) i don't like either the house, the pet or the mount^^
    Edited by HappyLittleTree on September 25, 2018 7:42AM
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  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Yes
    I'm just going to drop a two cents here. I am sure there will be people ready to trash. Of course, I want the rewards, and a community wide event, is something new and different. I've read sour grapes thoughts, "I'm too lazy, I'm bitter at changes to the game, not interested in the rewards," blah, blah, blah.

    In each instance of "no" or something similar, it was completely self focused, and the point of it, is a community based event. You don't want the horse? Don't use it. You don't want the house? Don't go there. This is something for players to strive for together, because someone else out there, might, just might want it. It takes little time to get the achievement with all the people out there helping each other, on both servers, and I'm sure other platforms.

    Why do I write this? Well, for starters, I've had some really negative in game experiences, dungeon experiences, in game chat can be horrible, and the forums, well, it can be quite the negative boo hoo zone............ Rightly so in some cases, for sure. I am on the receiving end of some of weeping changes. This is not about ZOS. This is about the community.

    I loved the concept, and I decided to spend my in game time today, trying to help others get the achievement as easily as possible. I had the most amazing, positive day in this game EVER!!!! What did I do? for the first bit, took solo players around, but for the most part, joined a group that had ppl positioned at most of the wayshrines, and then grouped people. So, I stood at the shrine in Artaeum, for a few hours, and it was the BEST TIME!!! So positive, so many players helping each other, happy, grateful, sharing, and no stupid negative stuff. Even if the house isn't achieved (and I think it will be), I was given a gift of positive, helpful, gratitude, fun, laughter, team spirit, community spirit, cooperation, that I will treasure and never forget. :smile:<3

    I may just do it again tomorrow :smiley:

    Thank you ZOS!!!

    This was the best thing I’ve read and I hope there’s more community events like this in the future.
  • Vicarra
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    Yes
    With sorc nerfs, having a house to decorate will give me something to do :trollface:
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    I'm just going to drop a two cents here. I am sure there will be people ready to trash. Of course, I want the rewards, and a community wide event, is something new and different. I've read sour grapes thoughts, "I'm too lazy, I'm bitter at changes to the game, not interested in the rewards," blah, blah, blah.

    In each instance of "no" or something similar, it was completely self focused, and the point of it, is a community based event. You don't want the horse? Don't use it. You don't want the house? Don't go there. This is something for players to strive for together, because someone else out there, might, just might want it. It takes little time to get the achievement with all the people out there helping each other, on both servers, and I'm sure other platforms.

    Why do I write this? Well, for starters, I've had some really negative in game experiences, dungeon experiences, in game chat can be horrible, and the forums, well, it can be quite the negative boo hoo zone............ Rightly so in some cases, for sure. I am on the receiving end of some of weeping changes. This is not about ZOS. This is about the community.

    I loved the concept, and I decided to spend my in game time today, trying to help others get the achievement as easily as possible. I had the most amazing, positive day in this game EVER!!!! What did I do? for the first bit, took solo players around, but for the most part, joined a group that had ppl positioned at most of the wayshrines, and then grouped people. So, I stood at the shrine in Artaeum, for a few hours, and it was the BEST TIME!!! So positive, so many players helping each other, happy, grateful, sharing, and no stupid negative stuff. Even if the house isn't achieved (and I think it will be), I was given a gift of positive, helpful, gratitude, fun, laughter, team spirit, community spirit, cooperation, that I will treasure and never forget. :smile:<3

    I may just do it again tomorrow :smiley:

    Thank you ZOS!!!







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  • Darkenarlol
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    Yes
    i need that villa so my sorc can play crafting AND housing next patch =D
  • Lettigall
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    No
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Ydrisselle wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy doing various events and breaks the slow drag of other areas in the game, but I genuinely just don't care about the rewards in this event.

    I rather get 200 transmute crystals than another house. Perhaps I'm biased because I already have a house (nothing huge, just Mournhold Keep) and that's plenty for me. Also, since I've already completed this achievement a while ago I don't feel like there's anymore I can do.
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Housing and pets are things that I don't care about in ESO and because of that I won't be upset at all if event fails. Done pathfinder on EU long time ago but I really don't have motivation to do in on NA, there's nothing in it for me.
    No, not really.
    Got my achievement back in the days on Na server, there is no way I'm going to create a toon in the eu server.
    Did my share, don't really care about pet, Mount or the house.

    @MooseKnuckles88 @Lettigall @MinarasLaure

    You all can do it for the community, for your friends and guild mates. There could be an event in ESO with your favourite in-game activity, and mybe there would be a reward for your liking... that you won't get because people wouldn't be interested in something they don't really like to do. Changeing region, creating a toon and finishing the tutorial, then grabbing the achievement can be done in an hour, and that helps for a couple ten thousands of fellow players...

    Sorry but I don't want to waste an hour of my time for something I don't have zero interest in and if the time come, I will respect what other people do with their valuable time.

    Yet you wasted 3-5 minutes here to write that down. Guess that 3-5 minutes were not important to you.

    They weren't important at the time I wrote(same as now).
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  • xshatox
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    Yes
    I want to help out the community. I also want to help out some player who is having hard time getting houses trough purchase since house is so expensive. Although I also want that nice house in artaeum, fitting for my main mag sorc high elf.
  • StamWhipCultist
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    Yes
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Ydrisselle wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy doing various events and breaks the slow drag of other areas in the game, but I genuinely just don't care about the rewards in this event.

    I rather get 200 transmute crystals than another house. Perhaps I'm biased because I already have a house (nothing huge, just Mournhold Keep) and that's plenty for me. Also, since I've already completed this achievement a while ago I don't feel like there's anymore I can do.
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Housing and pets are things that I don't care about in ESO and because of that I won't be upset at all if event fails. Done pathfinder on EU long time ago but I really don't have motivation to do in on NA, there's nothing in it for me.
    No, not really.
    Got my achievement back in the days on Na server, there is no way I'm going to create a toon in the eu server.
    Did my share, don't really care about pet, Mount or the house.

    @MooseKnuckles88 @Lettigall @MinarasLaure

    You all can do it for the community, for your friends and guild mates. There could be an event in ESO with your favourite in-game activity, and mybe there would be a reward for your liking... that you won't get because people wouldn't be interested in something they don't really like to do. Changeing region, creating a toon and finishing the tutorial, then grabbing the achievement can be done in an hour, and that helps for a couple ten thousands of fellow players...

    Sorry but I don't want to waste an hour of my time for something I don't have zero interest in and if the time come, I will respect what other people do with their valuable time.

    Yet you wasted 3-5 minutes here to write that down. Guess that 3-5 minutes were not important to you.

    They weren't important at the time I wrote(same as now).

    Well, I guess if u spent like 3 minutes per day u would have helped others get the villa. But that would be way too great of a sacrifice for someone like you, busy all the time, I guess.
  • Sharee
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    Other
    It got me to care enough to complete it, even if i don't care about the rewards all that much... but then i only had to visit one more POI so whatever.
  • Daedric_NB_187
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    No
    Nope. Not one bit.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Don’t think we’ll get the house, therefore don’t care
    I logged in to do my part on Xbox one. I prob haven’t played more than an hour in 4 months

    I would do PC but they never fixed the issue of me purchasing the digital version edition.
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on September 25, 2018 11:23AM
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  • mwo1480
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    Yes
    ofc i do, i need a new prison for my childre...... pets , i need a new house for my pets

    but i have feeling they go niantic way, we would get the stuff anyway, but make it an event so more ppl buy summerset/play summerset
    eu/pc
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    seline kay .... bosmer dk AD
    elle wolf .... breton temp AD
    fluffy meowmeow... khajiit-nightblade AD
    Lynphia Moonlit ...Woodmer-arcanist AD
  • Vapirko
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    Other
    Did it cause it’s free and takes 5 minutes. If I get the stuff cool, I might have fun with it when/if I return to the game. If I don’t then no big deal.
    Edited by Vapirko on September 25, 2018 11:38AM
  • MinarasLaure
    MinarasLaure
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    No
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Ydrisselle wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy doing various events and breaks the slow drag of other areas in the game, but I genuinely just don't care about the rewards in this event.

    I rather get 200 transmute crystals than another house. Perhaps I'm biased because I already have a house (nothing huge, just Mournhold Keep) and that's plenty for me. Also, since I've already completed this achievement a while ago I don't feel like there's anymore I can do.
    Lettigall wrote: »
    Housing and pets are things that I don't care about in ESO and because of that I won't be upset at all if event fails. Done pathfinder on EU long time ago but I really don't have motivation to do in on NA, there's nothing in it for me.
    No, not really.
    Got my achievement back in the days on Na server, there is no way I'm going to create a toon in the eu server.
    Did my share, don't really care about pet, Mount or the house.

    @MooseKnuckles88 @Lettigall @MinarasLaure

    You all can do it for the community, for your friends and guild mates. There could be an event in ESO with your favourite in-game activity, and mybe there would be a reward for your liking... that you won't get because people wouldn't be interested in something they don't really like to do. Changeing region, creating a toon and finishing the tutorial, then grabbing the achievement can be done in an hour, and that helps for a couple ten thousands of fellow players...

    Sorry but I don't want to waste an hour of my time for something I don't have zero interest in and if the time come, I will respect what other people do with their valuable time.

    Yet you wasted 3-5 minutes here to write that down. Guess that 3-5 minutes were not important to you.

    I can access the forum from work, while I can't play from work.
    I can access the forum from my mobile, while I can't play from my mobile.
    Your point doesn't make sense.
    I don't feel like wasting even half an hour of my time doing something I have no pleasure in doing for something I'm not interested in.
    Deal with it.
    Whoever says it takes half an hour to get the achievement on the other server simply lies.
    It takes at least a good hour, and considering I can do so many different thing I enjoy, it's a no for me.
    I and many others already got the achievement on the server we play on, and that's what we feel is enough from us as contribution.
    If you guys have the time to get the achievement on both servers, good for you, I dont.
  • mbaranski15
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    Yes
    This event brought me back to ESO, along with the discounted Summerset price. Their marketing drive worked on at least one person :smile:
  • Pops_ND_Irish
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    No interest whatsoever. The PTS patch notes and the developer's current direction of the game have left a fairly bad taste in my mouth. It's really taken the wind out of my sails for this game overall (and I've been here since beta).

    To me, it almost feels like they made this event as a distraction for some of the incredibly upending, game-breaking changes that are coming with Murkmire. But that's my opinion.

    P.S. I already did the achievement a while back, so I'm not hindering anything for the rest of you. I just don't care anymore...

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  • Darkmage1337
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    Yes
    Event/details/FAQ: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/summerfall

    Community Progress:
    September 18 - 20% default community- progress meter (pre-event) from players who already had the achievement
    September 19 - 20% no increase because the event hadn't officially started yet
    September 20 - Day 1 - 35% (+15% for 9/18 and 9/19)
    September 21 - Day 2 - 42% (+7% for 9/20)
    September 22 - Day 3 - 47% (+5% for 9/21, even when ZOS live-streamed the event on Twitch)
    September 23 - Day 4 - 63% (+16% for 9/22, this made up for the low Friday-night/Saturday-morning turnout)
    September 24 - Day 5 - 76% (+13% for 9/23, a good Sunday-night/Monday-morning turnout)
    September 25 - Day 6 - 85% (+9% for 9/24, Monday-Tuesday)
    September 26 - Day 7 - X%
    September 27 - Day 8 - X%
    September 28 - Day 9 - X%
    Summerfall Event ends on Friday, September 28 at 10:00AM EDT.

    We got this! We just need to average 5% for the next 3 days! :)
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  • neverwalk
    neverwalk
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    Yes
    had the Summerset Pathfinder achievement 2 days after summerset released. So far i get pony pet and a mount-i'm good, own two houses already.
  • Vaelen
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    Looks like the benchmark will get to 100% and everyone will get the Psijic Villa! Socialism at it's best! Now I just hope they offer some serious fancy furniture packs in the Crown Store so that theres still alittle bit of Capitalism left over for those who like spending their hard earned money and not getting everything for free.
  • DanteYoda
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    No
    If they give all of us a house why would we ever need to buy another one lol
  • kylewwefan
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    Yes
    I traveled all the way to Europe for it!
  • Danikat
    Danikat
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    If we actually get the house I'm going to have to decide whether I still want the Alinor townhouse for my crafter & sorcerer or if they'll live in the Psijic Villa instead. The Alinor house suits them much better, especially the crafter, but if I have this one anyway it seems silly to buy the Alinor house too.

    The alternative is to use the Psijic Villa as a building/experimentation space to make crazy structures out of planks and crates and whatever else. Hopefully it doesn't have those annoying invisible ceilings just above head height.
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