Maintenance for the week of April 6:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
Magicka sorceres post-mortem analysis video
Vahrokh
✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭
✭✭✭
Here's a quite informative video showing off how the 1s shields cast time is just the straw that broke the camel's back.
The video is a testament to how you don't manage a class in the gaming industry, so new game designers may learn from the errors done by others in the past.
Basically the class "evolved" bad and needed more and more ill conceived crutches making it bad-yet-seemingly-overpowered at some niches.
No other "mage" archetype class in other MMOs or single player game relies on all these exceptions, weird mechanics (as of today we still have 3 cast bars, no other ESO class got that), bugs (whole pet spec is rendered pointless at several trial encounters) and just illogical stuff that caused all sorts of balancing issues in PvP and PvE.
The class needs a full reset, to be recreated from scratch. Because what we have now is the sum of a layer of bad bandages that led to terrible decisions like letting shields stacking and now shields cast time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24n9fYPHkfI
Edited by Vahrokh on September 23, 2018 11:11PM The video is a testament to how you don't manage a class in the gaming industry, so new game designers may learn from the errors done by others in the past.
Basically the class "evolved" bad and needed more and more ill conceived crutches making it bad-yet-seemingly-overpowered at some niches.
No other "mage" archetype class in other MMOs or single player game relies on all these exceptions, weird mechanics (as of today we still have 3 cast bars, no other ESO class got that), bugs (whole pet spec is rendered pointless at several trial encounters) and just illogical stuff that caused all sorts of balancing issues in PvP and PvE.
The class needs a full reset, to be recreated from scratch. Because what we have now is the sum of a layer of bad bandages that led to terrible decisions like letting shields stacking and now shields cast time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24n9fYPHkfI Vaerah, Dark Elf Magicka Sorceress
Trials addict, soloer extraordinaire!
Here are my Elder Scrolls Online videos
Here is the Sorcerer Helper addon I have updated to work on current ESO
Trials addict, soloer extraordinaire!
Here are my Elder Scrolls Online videos
Here is the Sorcerer Helper addon I have updated to work on current ESO
13
-
Vahrokh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »Just how many times has that video been spammed on the forum by now?
Well, we'll have 1s cast time on casting videos, but no penalty for spamming them
. Vaerah, Dark Elf Magicka Sorceress
Trials addict, soloer extraordinaire!
Here are my Elder Scrolls Online videos
Here is the Sorcerer Helper addon I have updated to work on current ESO7 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You're crying about the change on PTS over Shields, but you use the 3 skill bars argument to say the class is broken. If Shields broke it, then you can cry over 3 skill bars because you won't have that after you lose OP shield stacking. One side is broken and will be fixed, the other was broken, and will be balanced. Consider Shields will come after armor, so they will last longer and stacking them won't be as needed.
And before I forget, babysorcs are clearly the most annoying class in the game. Jeez... Never have I seen such an absurd amount of whining after heavy nerfs. Even after jesusbeam got hammered it wasn't this bad.4 -
Conduit0✭✭✭✭✭
✭Honestly its well beyond time that every class received a comprehensive rebalancing pass. The game has changed so much over last couple years but many aspects of every class have failed to keep up.4 -
SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭You're crying about the change on PTS over Shields, but you use the 3 skill bars argument to say the class is broken. If Shields broke it, then you can cry over 3 skill bars because you won't have that after you lose OP shield stacking. One side is broken and will be fixed, the other was broken, and will be balanced. Consider Shields will come after armor, so they will last longer and stacking them won't be as needed.
And before I forget, babysorcs are clearly the most annoying class in the game. Jeez... Never have I seen such an absurd amount of whining after heavy nerfs. Even after jesusbeam got hammered it wasn't this bad.
Actually that's because all the templars (and DKs around the time) left when it hit live.
Boy was clearing out my 3 guilds of 400+ took forever after that quarter update. >___>0 -
TheInfernalRage✭✭✭✭✭You're crying about the change on PTS over Shields, but you use the 3 skill bars argument to say the class is broken. If Shields broke it, then you can cry over 3 skill bars because you won't have that after you lose OP shield stacking. One side is broken and will be fixed, the other was broken, and will be balanced. Consider Shields will come after armor, so they will last longer and stacking them won't be as needed.
And before I forget, babysorcs are clearly the most annoying class in the game. Jeez... Never have I seen such an absurd amount of whining after heavy nerfs. Even after jesusbeam got hammered it wasn't this bad.
Do you have a Sorc?
2 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Btw, just wanted to let you know @ZonasArch that shields are weaker next patch even with instant cast time.
Sorcerers are forced into using light armor because of god-awful sustain, and thus have very little armor. Penetration will still bring us down to 0 armor rating, but we can also be critically hit now.
Essentially, you're taking more overall damage than you would before the change.
It was simply a needless change no matter how you slice itValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake5 -
nhisso✭✭✭✭Yeah the way mage is handled is terrible. And the fact that simple things like a fireball are kept solely for staff usage is pathetic.
ALL classes should have a bar for non weapon skills and one for weapon skills that are active at the same time, too.
1 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TheInfernalRage wrote: »You're crying about the change on PTS over Shields, but you use the 3 skill bars argument to say the class is broken. If Shields broke it, then you can cry over 3 skill bars because you won't have that after you lose OP shield stacking. One side is broken and will be fixed, the other was broken, and will be balanced. Consider Shields will come after armor, so they will last longer and stacking them won't be as needed.
And before I forget, babysorcs are clearly the most annoying class in the game. Jeez... Never have I seen such an absurd amount of whining after heavy nerfs. Even after jesusbeam got hammered it wasn't this bad.
Do you have a Sorc?
Two sorcs, yes. Why?0 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You're crying about the change on PTS over Shields, but you use the 3 skill bars argument to say the class is broken. If Shields broke it, then you can cry over 3 skill bars because you won't have that after you lose OP shield stacking. One side is broken and will be fixed, the other was broken, and will be balanced. Consider Shields will come after armor, so they will last longer and stacking them won't be as needed.
And before I forget, babysorcs are clearly the most annoying class in the game. Jeez... Never have I seen such an absurd amount of whining after heavy nerfs. Even after jesusbeam got hammered it wasn't this bad.
Actually that's because all the templars (and DKs around the time) left when it hit live.
Boy was clearing out my 3 guilds of 400+ took forever after that quarter update. >___>
If you want your whining to be taken seriously, do not exaggerate so much. It's a simple fact of life, this game has been growing in active player constantly since tamriel unlimited. If all those people left, there would be a clear dip in user base because those are 2 of only 5 classes, imagine the amount of people that play with these.. Can we assume around 40%, 20% for each of 5 classes? And it's probably more because Morrowind and wardens have a pay wall.
So yeah... If you wanna cry and whine, do it with reason and arguments, otherwise no one at ZoS will ever take you seriously. Laughable.Edited by ZonasArch on September 24, 2018 2:45PM0
