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Magicka DragonKnight and Magicka Warden PVP

Nser
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why we dont have any good minors not same as warden?! even reg damage and tank better.
warden have minor and major:
Heroism
Berserk
Breach
Protection
Fracture
Toughness
Mending
Endurance
Resolve
Expedition
Sorcery
idk if i miss some
basicly everything but dk have just some useless skills no buff damage while sloted and some useless passives.
sorry for my english.
Edited by Nser on September 24, 2018 7:31PM
  • robpr
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    We have Minor and Major Brutality, Major Mending, Sorcery, Defile, Expedition on Chains. StamDK has Major Fracture, mDK has 10% fire damage. Talons have Minor Maim. I think it's enough for tank-themed class.
  • Nser
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    robpr wrote: »
    We have Minor and Major Brutality, Major Mending, Sorcery, Defile, Expedition on Chains. StamDK has Major Fracture, mDK has 10% fire damage. Talons have Minor Maim. I think it's enough for tank-themed class.

    thats its nothing else.
  • OrphanHelgen
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    robpr wrote: »
    We have Minor and Major Brutality, Major Mending, Sorcery, Defile, Expedition on Chains. StamDK has Major Fracture, mDK has 10% fire damage. Talons have Minor Maim. I think it's enough for tank-themed class.

    Minor vitality on greendragonblood
    Edited by OrphanHelgen on September 21, 2018 8:03PM
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  • Nser
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    warden and dk r support class but look what warden have and what dk have its nothing like dk
    w/e not everyone wanna be tank in pvp even reg and cost is high.
    Edited by Nser on September 22, 2018 1:38AM
  • runagate
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    Warden*
  • DanteYoda
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    Yes we have all that, but dps stinks so wardens are considered useless because this game really only values dps.

    DK still better than Warden.
    Edited by DanteYoda on September 22, 2018 1:55AM
  • weedgenius
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    Because wardens are useless without the buffs they provide. Good luck getting into a serious dungeon group as a healer, LET ALONE AS A WARDEN HEALER. Let me have my buffs and leave me be :cry::cry:

    Also what do DKs need buffs for? PvE? Fossilize > flame lash > flame lash > flame lash > flame lash is basically every death recap for me in BGs.
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  • Savos_Saren
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    Because wardens are useless without the buffs they provide. Good luck getting into a serious dungeon group as a healer, LET ALONE AS A WARDEN HEALER. Let me have my buffs and leave me be :cry::cry:

    Also what do DKs need buffs for? PvE? Fossilize > flame lash > flame lash > flame lash > flame lash is basically every death recap for me in BGs.

    You die to Fossilize and four flame lashes?
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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  • weedgenius
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    Because wardens are useless without the buffs they provide. Good luck getting into a serious dungeon group as a healer, LET ALONE AS A WARDEN HEALER. Let me have my buffs and leave me be :cry::cry:

    Also what do DKs need buffs for? PvE? Fossilize > flame lash > flame lash > flame lash > flame lash is basically every death recap for me in BGs.

    You die to Fossilize and four flame lashes?

    Yup. Dk stun and flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash gets me erry time. Believe it or not, I’m not alone. Hence why devs literally nerfed this specifically on PTS. Because they want to force DKs to be “deliberate” with stun/burst.
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  • Savos_Saren
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    weedgenius wrote: »
    Because wardens are useless without the buffs they provide. Good luck getting into a serious dungeon group as a healer, LET ALONE AS A WARDEN HEALER. Let me have my buffs and leave me be :cry::cry:

    Also what do DKs need buffs for? PvE? Fossilize > flame lash > flame lash > flame lash > flame lash is basically every death recap for me in BGs.

    You die to Fossilize and four flame lashes?

    Yup. Dk stun and flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash flame lash gets me erry time. Believe it or not, I’m not alone. Hence why devs literally nerfed this specifically on PTS. Because they want to force DKs to be “deliberate” with stun/burst.

    Who knows. Maybe they'll nerf Fossilize next. (but you really shouldn't be getting perma-whipped... there might be something that we can improve on your end)

    What's your build? Ice or Animals? I can give you some pointers to avoid DK damage.
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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  • ak_pvp
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    Warden has a lot stacked buffs/utility but limited class abilities. Which is why stamden, mixing all that utility with stamina offense is better than magden. DK is weaker when it comes to that, but is more functional in a normal fight.

    Warden however is a much much better pure tank, their spikes are probably better than DK talons and they take less dmg with the better wings (cheaper, heroism)
    DK regen is a bit better if you count both mag and stam, warden has better single regen. However, warden has cheaper abilities.

    I don't think slapping more classified buffs will fix it, just make the weak abilities better, and stop nerfing it. God knows DK has enough of both.
    MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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