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AUSSIES, what DPS do you pull?
Ravingar
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Whenever I go look up some DPS build online, there’s always the common ‘light attack in between skills’, and I watch DPS vids and I’m like how. With ping ranging from 250 on good days, and 340 on bad - it is literally impossible to do this mystical thing called light attacking between skills because theres too much of a delay to do it efficiently like most dps builds work. And this applies to everything skill wise, more often than not, I’d go to use a skill and it wouldn’t even fire.
On my stamDK, I run hundings, velidreth and vicious ophidian (mostly gold), and I still struggle and only pull 22k dps, if not less. I wanna know if I’m doing something wrong, or if other aussies experience this issue with lag and such, and if light attacking between skills really does boost dps signifcantly. Where timing is critical for DDs, lag has kinda forced me to move over to healing and tanking.
What do you other aussies pull?
On my stamDK, I run hundings, velidreth and vicious ophidian (mostly gold), and I still struggle and only pull 22k dps, if not less. I wanna know if I’m doing something wrong, or if other aussies experience this issue with lag and such, and if light attacking between skills really does boost dps signifcantly. Where timing is critical for DDs, lag has kinda forced me to move over to healing and tanking.
What do you other aussies pull?
PC NA
User ID : @Ravingar | CP 830+
Tommo Bladell | Redguard | Dragonknight | Stamina | DPS
Ma'Muhn | Breton | Templar | Magicka | Healer
Falls-Over-Regularly | Argonian | Warden | Magicka | Tank
Jinjiin | High Elf | Sorcerer | Magicka | DPS
Ruv'erenar | Khajiit | Nightblade | Magicka | DPS
Exkalibur Whitesmith | Nord | Dragonknight | Stamina | Tank
User ID : @Ravingar | CP 830+
Tommo Bladell | Redguard | Dragonknight | Stamina | DPS
Ma'Muhn | Breton | Templar | Magicka | Healer
Falls-Over-Regularly | Argonian | Warden | Magicka | Tank
Jinjiin | High Elf | Sorcerer | Magicka | DPS
Ruv'erenar | Khajiit | Nightblade | Magicka | DPS
Exkalibur Whitesmith | Nord | Dragonknight | Stamina | Tank
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LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭I hit 41K on my Magden the other day. idk what ping i get because im console but i have NBN.
PS NA
Have played all classes.
Warden Main0 -
SirDopey✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gold Coast Australia, ping hovers between 240 - 300 with 60 fps.
On Live: mNB 33k
On PTS last night: StamDK 35k. AY, Relequen, Storm Fist with Warrior MundusNA PC | AD
xx Doc Holliday xx1 -
Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭Anywhere between 13k to 30. Yeeeeah naaah Aussie Internet sucks.
Not quite as much as you think.
It's actually the amount of internet between where you are; and where our supplier chooses as an appropriate location to install the hardware needed for you to play.
They could choose to run a server on our island, but with only 3 of us playing, they'd lose money.
This is why it's really insulting when ISPCo blames gamers for night-time congestion.1 -
SienneYviete✭✭✭✭✭
✭I run from about 280 ping on a good day to over 400 from Melbourne without mudfish, I can parse as per below. These are 6 mill dummy parses with orbs and fracture (if not provided by the class) no other group buffs applied externally.
Stamblade 54k
Stamplar 50k
Stamwarden 50k
Stamsorc 48k
Magblade 51k
Magsorc 47k
Magwarden 46k
I've been playing this game for a few years now so I guess the lag is something I'm used to. You are correct light attacks do increase your dps significantly. It takes alot of practice. Also programs like mudfish or battleping can help decrease your ping from Australia, using a better node to connect to their server I've seen my ping drop to below the 230ms mark but sometimes it can be really unstable.Delta
Valheru's2 -
malicia✭✭✭✭South African here. Ping generally about 280-310.
Magblade - 41k (Siroria+MS)
Stamblade - 40k (Rele+WM)
Stamblade is running bad traits on a few pieces, and I don't have WM daggers, only sword and axe. Both parses self-buffed. On magblade I used eledrain in place of Harness. On Stamblade I do use Surprise Attack. Parses including ele/SA was with about 11-12k penetration.
Both can do better. In both cases there's still lots of room for me to improve before I can start blaming ping.
Install the ShowGlobalCooldown add-on. It is a great ping equalizer. Your ping is worse than mine. But it is not what's keeping you below 30k.
I used to blame ping. Somewhere realized that low DPS resides mostly in the mirror.Edited by malicia on September 21, 2018 6:39AMPC, EU
Not elite, not the best. Just enjoying ESO.
Not the worst either. "Casual" != "totally ignorant"
@taciti0 -
Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well, I just moved to an area that doesn't even have copper phones lines (that are connected at both ends).
The Telstra option is mobile data routers.
The NBNco option is satellite.
Satellite supplier TOS says 'games wont work'.
Crappy ping is a thing of the past for me. I've upgraded to non-existent ping.1 -
malicia✭✭✭✭@Androconium - have you tested the mobile data routers? Satellite will probably be horrible, but mobile data can be fine. I play only on mobile, but in my case that's in a city, so my tower is connected to the fibre backbone.PC, EU
Not elite, not the best. Just enjoying ESO.
Not the worst either. "Casual" != "totally ignorant"
@taciti0 -
Minute_Waltz✭✭✭SienneYviete wrote: »I run from about 280 ping on a good day to over 400 from Melbourne without mudfish, I can parse as per below. These are 6 mill dummy parses with orbs and fracture (if not provided by the class) no other group buffs applied externally.
Stamblade 54k
Stamplar 50k
Stamwarden 50k
Stamsorc 48k
Magblade 51k
Magsorc 47k
Magwarden 46k
I've been playing this game for a few years now so I guess the lag is something I'm used to. You are correct light attacks do increase your dps significantly. It takes alot of practice. Also programs like mudfish or battleping can help decrease your ping from Australia, using a better node to connect to their server I've seen my ping drop to below the 230ms mark but sometimes it can be really unstable.
The only trouble I have is NB and bow procs with 300 ping, not sure if its a l2p issue or ping. How often do you do 3 bow procs per cast with the aussie ping? I find it hard to do the perfect nb rotation and its least forgiving since it relies on light atk/procs.0 -
Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Androconium - have you tested the mobile data routers? Satellite will probably be horrible, but mobile data can be fine. I play only on mobile, but in my case that's in a city, so my tower is connected to the fibre backbone.
Thanks. No, I haven't. Satellite is way cheaper.
The only thing that would be affected is ESO. That might be an issue if ESO didn't have so many problems of its own.0 -
swaggasm✭✭✭Whenever I go look up some DPS build online, there’s always the common ‘light attack in between skills’, and I watch DPS vids and I’m like how. With ping ranging from 250 on good days, and 340 on bad - it is literally impossible to do this mystical thing called light attacking between skills because theres too much of a delay to do it efficiently like most dps builds work. And this applies to everything skill wise, more often than not, I’d go to use a skill and it wouldn’t even fire.
On my stamDK, I run hundings, velidreth and vicious ophidian (mostly gold), and I still struggle and only pull 22k dps, if not less. I wanna know if I’m doing something wrong, or if other aussies experience this issue with lag and such, and if light attacking between skills really does boost dps signifcantly. Where timing is critical for DDs, lag has kinda forced me to move over to healing and tanking.
What do you other aussies pull?
Pretty much on par to what other people with low latency get. It's just practice and repetition and getting used to the broken animations. I've played this game with dial-up, adsl, and now nbn. The only issue with latency that I may get would be if it is on my end, or Telstra's.0 -
Bhaal5✭✭✭✭✭
✭You have to be one with the lag....
"I am the lag and the lag is with me"
"I the the lag and the lag is with me"
"I am the lag and the lag is with me....."0 -
Sparr0w✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm not Aussie but get crap ping when playing on the PTS, still manage decent numbers tho (on mag, bows don't mix well with lag in my experience
) @Sparr0w so I get the notification
Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+DD: All Mag + StamPC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
Tank: NB | DK | Warden
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GHDD: All Mag + Stam
Heal: Templar | Sorc
Tank: DK | NB
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS0 -
Bhaal5✭✭✭✭✭
✭Though the highest i got was 37k on a stamDK, my ping for eso is around 600 to 700 on a average night
Since returning to guild wars 2 i havent seen my ping go over 220, an that was even watching it through a massive blob fight in wvw (around 150 each on both sides fighting).
Eso for me anyway is just getting worse0 -
malicia✭✭✭✭I'm not Aussie but get crap ping when playing on the PTS, still manage decent numbers tho (on mag, bows don't mix well with lag in my experience )
The bows are more difficult, but still doable. I'm struggling to weave Caltrops, but it is slowly getting better as I practice it.PC, EU
Not elite, not the best. Just enjoying ESO.
Not the worst either. "Casual" != "totally ignorant"
@taciti0 -
SienneYviete✭✭✭✭✭
✭Minute_Waltz wrote: »SienneYviete wrote: »I run from about 280 ping on a good day to over 400 from Melbourne without mudfish, I can parse as per below. These are 6 mill dummy parses with orbs and fracture (if not provided by the class) no other group buffs applied externally.
Stamblade 54k
Stamplar 50k
Stamwarden 50k
Stamsorc 48k
Magblade 51k
Magsorc 47k
Magwarden 46k
I've been playing this game for a few years now so I guess the lag is something I'm used to. You are correct light attacks do increase your dps significantly. It takes alot of practice. Also programs like mudfish or battleping can help decrease your ping from Australia, using a better node to connect to their server I've seen my ping drop to below the 230ms mark but sometimes it can be really unstable.
The only trouble I have is NB and bow procs with 300 ping, not sure if its a l2p issue or ping. How often do you do 3 bow procs per cast with the aussie ping? I find it hard to do the perfect nb rotation and its least forgiving since it relies on light atk/procs.
It's ping, sometimes I get lucky and get a third but mostly not. It's extremely hard to get three consistently with our ping.Delta
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Sparr0w✭✭✭✭✭
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Hail is the killer for me & caltrops not firing first time @Sparr0w so I get the notification
Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+DD: All Mag + StamPC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
Tank: NB | DK | Warden
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GHDD: All Mag + Stam
Heal: Templar | Sorc
Tank: DK | NB
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS0 -
MrGarlic✭✭✭✭✭
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Hail is the killer for me & caltrops not firing first time
Hell yeah. Skills not firing is the bane of the game for me.
I do find that with the high ping (and jitter) that I have to be very methodical with skills and light attacks, which does slow down my rotation and limits DPS.
Still, I can manage 35k DPS on my stamDK but magicka characters feel very sluggish with light attack weaving and I struggle to break 30k. (Non-cheesed target dummies btw.)'Sharp Arrows'Mr.GarlicHidden by darkness, a shadow in the night,A sped arrow dissecting the gloom,Finding it's target, such delight.0 -
TheInfernalRage✭✭✭✭✭Whenever I go look up some DPS build online, there’s always the common ‘light attack in between skills’, and I watch DPS vids and I’m like how. With ping ranging from 250 on good days, and 340 on bad - it is literally impossible to do this mystical thing called light attacking between skills because theres too much of a delay to do it efficiently like most dps builds work. And this applies to everything skill wise, more often than not, I’d go to use a skill and it wouldn’t even fire.
On my stamDK, I run hundings, velidreth and vicious ophidian (mostly gold), and I still struggle and only pull 22k dps, if not less. I wanna know if I’m doing something wrong, or if other aussies experience this issue with lag and such, and if light attacking between skills really does boost dps signifcantly. Where timing is critical for DDs, lag has kinda forced me to move over to healing and tanking.
What do you other aussies pull?
We have the same ping as I'm using a slower option in the Philippines. I can pull to around 32k max on well geared toons. It's bad when the execution of the rotation gets really stiff.0 -
DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm in QLD on ADSL 2+ i get between 289-1600 ping and i can't even scratch 20k on a dummy.. light attack weaving is not doable on my game..
When i first load into ESO the game feels responsive but as time progresses my skills will not fire when i press buttons, but i do still get cooldowns etc and i must constantly press my keyboard keys over and over to get the skills to go off.
The longer i play the worse all that seems to get.. its like my game is dsyncing over time.
I have no idea how that dude pulls those kinds of numbers as an Aussie.. makes me wonder if he really is a Aussie or just says he is.
Even if i wanted to pvp or do dungeons i'd have no chance on my connection.Edited by DanteYoda on September 21, 2018 1:59PM0 -
malicia✭✭✭✭35+ with a 300 ms connection is totally doable, as long as the ping is fairly constant. If it jumps around with more than about 50 ms I struggle.
As for SynneYviete pulling those numbers - I don't doubt that they're real. I get 40k, and the amount of time I've spent in front of the dummy really isn't enough to expect more than what I'm getting.
Ping is easy to blame. It is easier to blame ping than to really put in effort to up your DPS. And as long as you believe that your ping is beating you, you will be beaten by yourself. Been there, I was also a firm believer that my ping was the only culprit. I can't speak for 400 ms ping. But 300 ms ping isn't as bad as many her believe.PC, EU
Not elite, not the best. Just enjoying ESO.
Not the worst either. "Casual" != "totally ignorant"
@taciti0 -
DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭35+ with a 300 ms connection is totally doable, as long as the ping is fairly constant. If it jumps around with more than about 50 ms I struggle.
As for SynneYviete pulling those numbers - I don't doubt that they're real. I get 40k, and the amount of time I've spent in front of the dummy really isn't enough to expect more than what I'm getting.
Ping is easy to blame. It is easier to blame ping than to really put in effort to up your DPS. And as long as you believe that your ping is beating you, you will be beaten by yourself. Been there, I was also a firm believer that my ping was the only culprit. I can't speak for 400 ms ping. But 300 ms ping isn't as bad as many her believe.
Mine hasn't been constant since Summerset dropped, even on a good day my ping is fluctuating from 289 to 350 every few seconds..0
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