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Solo is dead
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NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Any counterplay which boils down to "don't play the game" is not something healthy for the game OR the studio's wallet.3 -
SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
✭Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
They are just punching a dead horse
The only my question is: where is a mag version of this set? Something like:
Mage of Noobish (Light)
2: Spell Damage
3: Spell Critical
4: Spell Damage
5: When you deal damage with a direct magical attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭RighteousBacon wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »RighteousBacon wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »There was too many people running around healing from 3k health to full in an instant. Good job zos , I like the change.
Excuse me, you got something against a well timed rally?
Yeah and self heals
Why
I thought it was obvious that I was using satire and mocking someone
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Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭RighteousBacon wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »At least this will prevent all those Vigor-spammers from running around insta-casting Vigor while also doing mass amount of damage.
Vigor spammers? You mean players with brains?
No, I mean people who can just spam Vigor throughout a whole fight with their buddies who are also doing the same thing. You need some sort of counter to these cheesers.0 -
Dashmatt✭✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »RighteousBacon wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »At least this will prevent all those Vigor-spammers from running around insta-casting Vigor while also doing mass amount of damage.
Vigor spammers? You mean players with brains?
No, I mean people who can just spam Vigor throughout a whole fight with their buddies who are also doing the same thing. You need some sort of counter to these cheesers.
The problem is that instead of addressing cheese, they add a counter to it, only that counter works just as well (or better) against typical players as it does against the cheesy ones. It’s not a good balance strategy, yet here we go again.0 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭1. I think this set is complete trash and should be removed (or make the proc conditions significantly more difficult and the debuff halved. And it shouldn't stack. Actually, it should just be Mangle a la Impulse).
2. I don't think it's the death of solo play.
I played primarily solo through the sloads patch, and that had similar problems (when stacked). It was frustrating, and sometimes you faced up against 3+ users and just couldn't do anything, but with patience, good fights were still to be had. This won't be *that much* worse, imo.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub1 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Applying Minor Mangle instead is a good idea for this set; it's a debuff stam doesn't have access to.2 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Applying Minor Mangle instead is a good idea for this set; it's a debuff stam doesn't have access to.
Honestly I think it keeps the spirit of the set alive while making it significantly less toxic.
Maybe minor mangle with a 6 second duration on a 4 second cooldown? So you can maintain full uptime on a single target or have some value in teamfights mangling 1.5 people at all times...Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub0 -
Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm really looking forward to this set. I can't wait to see the people try to spam Vigor and nothing happens.0 -
Luckylancer✭✭✭✭✭Luckylancer wrote: »Is this game meant to be played solo in cyro? Get a guild and enjoy small group's team work.
this game was ment to be played also in solo, yes
It was just annoying. I am glad it is gone. Beating this dead horse makes it even better. Only good thing about solo was watching streamers but I can live withoout it.0 -
CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »I'm really looking forward to this set. I can't wait to see the people try to spam Vigor and nothing happens.
Don’t worry. You’re still gonna get 1vXed, small scaled, packed up and respawn on the forums groveling for nerfs. Guarantee it. Cus see, ppl who constantly cry for nerfs and applaud crutch sets have no interest or ability to actually improve. So the result for you, ultimately, will be the same regardless what handicaps they add. See you in your next post whining about whatever.10 -
Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭Donny_Vito wrote: »I'm really looking forward to this set. I can't wait to see the people try to spam Vigor and nothing happens.
Don’t worry. You’re still gonna get 1vXed, small scaled, packed up and respawn on the forums groveling for nerfs. Guarantee it. Cus see, ppl who constantly cry for nerfs and applaud crutch sets have no interest or ability to actually improve. So the result for you, ultimately, will be the same regardless what handicaps they add. See you in your next post whining about whatever.
LOL! What an assumption you just made based on the fact I'm excited about countering those Vigor spammers, which in-turn gives me the assumption that you're that type of player. And I don't see any indication I was crying about nerfs; instead I was applauding the fact that we can finally counter those type of players. If anything, I was saying good job to ZOS for the buff. Nice try, though.0 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭This set is absolute garbage and garbage players will love it. Is this junk designed for people who dont have thumbs or something? What are you thinking @ZOS_Wrobel Maybe next set you can just make it have a 25% chance to reduce targets health to zero with any attack. This goes against every single change you have made to the healing lowering mechanics. What you took away from them, you just gave back twofold. This needs reworked immediately or every zergling gonna wear this and sloads, or this and the new heal ally set. Some of us enjoy solo good sir. Please stop giving controller zombies a way to button spam one ability in a group of 24 and win without skill. Honestly I'd like to see you guys roll back every single free damage proc set as well. So tired of sets that free win for people who have no skill with the sticks..1 -
Kartalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Borrowed Time already does this same effect, no? It’s hard to determine it’s impact when it’s being stacked on us with a stupid amount of siege. But really not a fan of how things are moving. There was a (joking) suggestion on the eso subreddit that all defile skills/sets might be changed to mirror this concept which would be truly horrifying.-
Tri-faction tryhard but mainly EP in Gray Host lately (PC/NA)
- DISCARNATE - Tertiary Meat - @ Kartalin - Youtube
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Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Borrowed Time already does this same effect, no? It’s hard to determine it’s impact when it’s being stacked on us with a stupid amount of siege. But really not a fan of how things are moving. There was a (joking) suggestion on the eso subreddit that all defile skills/sets might be changed to mirror this concept which would be truly horrifying.
Borrowed time does the same effect BUT: borrowed time it's a stun. Borrowed time has a channel time.I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »RighteousBacon wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »At least this will prevent all those Vigor-spammers from running around insta-casting Vigor while also doing mass amount of damage.
Vigor spammers? You mean players with brains?
No, I mean people who can just spam Vigor throughout a whole fight with their buddies who are also doing the same thing. You need some sort of counter to these cheesers.
Have you tried being good at the game?
Or hey burst them or defile them at the right moment.
No one spams vigor its a heal over time.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...4 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The same people cheering over this set will be the same ones crying later that it is unfair that they can't heal when those sets get turned against them.
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NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Just like the original Sloads, the best answer to this set is to have a dedicated healer in your PVP group.
Once again, ZOS buffs premades and organized groups.
No. ZOS buffs everyone who has more people regardless of aptitudeFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »There was too many people running around healing from 3k health to full in an instant. Good job zos , I like the change.
You act like this is some brainless move. Timing your rallies to generate a full heal burst requires skill, and you hate it only because you can’t do it/don’t understand it. That skill is available to all stamina classes. The reason you only see a few people doing it is because it’s not actually as easy as it looks.1 -
Grimhallow✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »I'm really looking forward to this set. I can't wait to see the people try to spam Vigor and nothing happens.
Don’t worry. You’re still gonna get 1vXed, small scaled, packed up and respawn on the forums groveling for nerfs. Guarantee it. Cus see, ppl who constantly cry for nerfs and applaud crutch sets have no interest or ability to actually improve. So the result for you, ultimately, will be the same regardless what handicaps they add. See you in your next post whining about whatever.
LOL! What an assumption you just made based on the fact I'm excited about countering those Vigor spammers, which in-turn gives me the assumption that you're that type of player. And I don't see any indication I was crying about nerfs; instead I was applauding the fact that we can finally counter those type of players. If anything, I was saying good job to ZOS for the buff. Nice try, though.
Counter "Vigor Spammers"?
You think it's cheese to cast healing abilities?
You should know that when you say things like that, I hear, "I get packed up on the daily".
This is a bad set, and doesn't "counter" any one problem- it counters everybody, and will disproportionally harm bad players, preventing even their raid heal-bots from saving them.
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CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »There was too many people running around healing from 3k health to full in an instant. Good job zos , I like the change.
You act like this is some brainless move. Timing your rallies to generate a full heal burst requires skill, and you hate it only because you can’t do it/don’t understand it. That skill is available to all stamina classes. The reason you only see a few people doing it is because it’s not actually as easy as it looks.
It’s satire, relax.
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Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Have you tried being good at the game?
Or hey burst them or defile them at the right moment.
No one spams vigor its a heal over time.
It really makes me wonder if people who post in this category actually PvP or just like to troll.
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Have you tried being good at the game?
Or hey burst them or defile them at the right moment.
No one spams vigor its a heal over time.
It really makes me wonder if people who post in this category actually PvP or just like to troll.
This coming from a guy who is crying about people 'spamming' vigor?PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »This coming from a guy who is crying about people 'spamming' vigor?
Coming from a person who sees small groups using Vigor to constantly heal themselves and their allies which totally negates the point of a healer. And this person is open to the possibility of a new set that might switch the dynamic of PvP to have more group diversity rather than 8 people of the same class/race with the same skills running around.
But hey, frame it however you'd like if it makes you feel better.2 -
montjie✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »This coming from a guy who is crying about people 'spamming' vigor?
Coming from a person who sees small groups using Vigor to constantly heal themselves and their allies which totally negates the point of a healer. And this person is open to the possibility of a new set that might switch the dynamic of PvP to have more group diversity rather than 8 people of the same class/race with the same skills running around.
But hey, frame it however you'd like if it makes you feel better.
My dude just count your losses nd give it up man.
First what I believe youre trying to say is players STACK vigors. Spamming vigor kinda defeats its purpose.
Second youre making an absolute fool out of yourself implying people shouldnt be able to heal their battlebuddies.
Why people assume u get rekt on a daily basis in cyro unless you surf the zerg is because you make statements like those that make you look very ignorant regarding game mechanics nd general combat.
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- retired QQ king of Daggerfall Covenant PC-EU Azura's Star/Sotha Sil/weird dragon name/Ravenwatch zone chat -0 -
Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
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All these people crying about a set that's not even out yet, and all I'm addressing is the fact that this will give healers a bigger role in PvP while limiting the ability to self-heal throughout a whole fight. And I could care less what people like you make assumptions about. But if I'm going to jump on the bandwagon train here and start making assumptions as well, I'll throw it out there that you're unintelligent based on your comments and grammar.Edited by Donny_Vito on September 20, 2018 12:17PM1 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Donny_Vito wrote: »All these people crying about a set that's not even out yet, and all I'm addressing is the fact that this will give healers a bigger role in PvP while limiting the ability to self-heal throughout a whole fight. And I could care less what people like you make assumptions about. But if I'm going to jump on the bandwagon train here and start making assumptions as well, I'll throw it out there that you're unintelligent based on your comments and grammar.
Not all people like to be a useless zergling in a zerg. Some people like the challange to fight big groups and win. Sets like this just shout what this game has become: a Filty Casual Game. They are milking this game, i don't think they put much love into itI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations0 -
montjie✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »All these people crying about a set that's not even out yet, and all I'm addressing is the fact that this will give healers a bigger role in PvP while limiting the ability to self-heal throughout a whole fight. And I could care less what people like you make assumptions about. But if I'm going to jump on the bandwagon train here and start making assumptions as well, I'll throw it out there that you're unintelligent based on your comments and grammar.
Since uve opted to double down nd keep making urself look like a clown plz answer these questions:
You do realize everyone (including your potential pockethealer) will be affected by this set right?
nd that being said
What good is a dedicated healer that cant heal?
Tbh i think ure just trolling, if not i feel sorry for you- easy farmable saltbucket -
- retired QQ king of Daggerfall Covenant PC-EU Azura's Star/Sotha Sil/weird dragon name/Ravenwatch zone chat -0 -
Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭Since uve opted to double down nd keep making urself look like a clown plz answer these questions:
You do realize everyone (including your potential pockethealer) will be affected by this set right?
nd that being said
What good is a dedicated healer that cant heal?
Tbh i think ure just trolling, if not i feel sorry for you
First off, I won't comment on your ability to write a complete, thoughtful statement again as it's a low-blow.
And to refer to your questions: you act like every single person is all of a sudden going to switch to this set. And if a healer can't offer more than 5.5k healing in 4 seconds then you definitely need to find a new healer in your group. The only thing (which I believe is the crux of all your whining) that this will reduce is the effectiveness of Vigor, but it won't completely negate it so just relax.
Edited by Donny_Vito on September 20, 2018 12:49PM1 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Donny_Vito wrote: »Since uve opted to double down nd keep making urself look like a clown plz answer these questions:
You do realize everyone (including your potential pockethealer) will be affected by this set right?
nd that being said
What good is a dedicated healer that cant heal?
Tbh i think ure just trolling, if not i feel sorry for you
First off, I won't comment on your ability to write a complete, thoughtful statement again as it's a low-blow.
And to refer to your questions: you act like every single person is all of a sudden going to switch to this set. And if a healer can't offer more than 5.5k healing in 4 seconds then you definitely need to find a new healer in your group. The only thing (which I believe is the crux of all your whining) that this will reduce is the effectiveness of Vigor, but it won't completely negate it so just relax.
healers are useless. They only win when your team is bigger then the other alreadyI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations1