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Magsorc Shield Nerf
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Eyesinthedrk✭✭✭✭✭madarame_77 wrote: »Can anyone explain how this affects pve? Monsters can't crit, right?
As it is now shields can be used in reactionary means, take some damage and pop a shield till surge or healer tops you off. Now shields have become proactive (devs own notes) so any dummy test for a magica toon that doesn’t have a shield in the rotation can be thrown out
In the case of mag sorcs, they already suffer with low damage due to terrible sustain. Now, every 9 seconds they are supposed to to burn an extra 3500(ish) magica and take a one second pause in dps. That equals to a light weaved force pulse or one elemental weapons and light attack. So 15-20k damage / 10 seconds means a 1.5 to 2k dps loss. That’s not even figuring in more damage being replaced for recovery or cost reduction.
Mag blades who can sustain upper 40s low 50s dps with bistat food will take a shoulder shrug worth of dps loss. Everything else that struggles with sustain, even with which mothers, may become crafters and fishermen.3 -
visionality✭✭✭✭✭ExcaliburESO wrote: »So much tears, mag sorc will be ruined u say? I say adapt and go on or leave i heared this from crysorcs so many times who said u have to play light armor or who said mag sorc is only full devine gear with 60k magicka i will tell u big secret. There is no other class in this game who plays in devines with 15k hp and 60k magicka. So adapt or go this change was long awaited finnaly zenimax stood up and done something about shieldstacker and 1 second is not big deal since everyone ignore that shields can be crited so it means no more full devine gear and shield will be buffed by ur physical and spell resist so if u build up nicely u will be able to get hit without dying and also ur shield will be stronger than before.
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SORjosh✭✭✭seems to me a more simple way of doing it would be to make it where you can only have one damage shield on you bars at a time. Revert the changes to shields and apply this change and everything will be fine.
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SenorCrouch✭✭✭See this is the one thing I hate the most when studios try to balance PvP and PvE together as a set. In this case, you get PvEers very concerned about casting times to shields for magSorcs because of some of the instant reaction times required to mitigate quick damage from dungeon and trials bosses.
Then a bunch of PvPers come in and start ridiculing them for not being good at PvP and that they should adapt and take less DPS for more stamina and HP cause that's how every other class has to do it in PvP.
The PvEer then looks at all the posts and is sitting there thinking, "What?""What's the cross roads of Alessia Castle? I am trying to get pizza delivered."3 -
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✭ExcaliburESO wrote: »So much tears, mag sorc will be ruined u say? I say adapt and go on or leave i heared this from crysorcs so many times who said u have to play light armor or who said mag sorc is only full devine gear with 60k magicka i will tell u big secret. There is no other class in this game who plays in devines with 15k hp and 60k magicka. So adapt or go this change was long awaited finnaly zenimax stood up and done something about shieldstacker and 1 second is not big deal since everyone ignore that shields can be crited so it means no more full devine gear and shield will be buffed by ur physical and spell resist so if u build up nicely u will be able to get hit without dying and also ur shield will be stronger than before.
Never go full r******4 -
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✭✭✭✭I find it amazing that so many mag sorcs run the same build and cannot fathom playing mag sorc any other way. Light armor is still great on mag sorc instead of relying on shields swap to resistances or major/minor protection. easy.
Also learning how to play a mag sorc without shields will do wonders for your sustain.
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✭✭✭✭ExcaliburESO wrote: »So much tears, mag sorc will be ruined u say? I say adapt and go on or leave i heared this from crysorcs so many times who said u have to play light armor or who said mag sorc is only full devine gear with 60k magicka i will tell u big secret. There is no other class in this game who plays in devines with 15k hp and 60k magicka. So adapt or go this change was long awaited finnaly zenimax stood up and done something about shieldstacker and 1 second is not big deal since everyone ignore that shields can be crited so it means no more full devine gear and shield will be buffed by ur physical and spell resist so if u build up nicely u will be able to get hit without dying and also ur shield will be stronger than before.
So easy to spot the people who are bad at pvp. So mad because they dont know how to take down a shield. Its so sad
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webrgesner✭✭✭✭The_Outsider wrote: »
Correct. Damage will also be mitigated by your resist stats before applying to your damage shield, whereas currently, you take 100% unmitigated damage. The shields in question (+all shields) will also be buffed in duration.madarame_77 wrote: »Can anyone explain how this affects pve? Monsters can't crit, right?
Most people I've talked to on discord have difficulty looking at these changes as a whole. Why even make a thread and mention the 2 "bad" changes without mentioning the good ones that are made in tandem?webrgesner wrote: »Ok, i understand why you guys nerfed frags and runecage. Now shields can be crit? Thats okay with me. But a 1second cast time to put a shield up?? If its going to be that way then im just going to race change my magsorc to a stam sorc. Magsorcs are fine as it is now. Cmon zenimax -.- Its either too strong or too weak. No ones going to be playing magsorcs once this patch ocmes out
Sincerely, a well-rounded player that tries to be minimally biased.
I wasnt complaining about shields being crit. as i mentioned im okay with that. What im not okay with is the 1 second to cast shield! Zennimax just ruined their play style. I main stamplar and i can already kill magsorcs fast. No one will play sorc anymore. Its not eso without sorcs
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webrgesner✭✭✭✭ExcaliburESO wrote: »So much tears, mag sorc will be ruined u say? I say adapt and go on or leave i heared this from crysorcs so many times who said u have to play light armor or who said mag sorc is only full devine gear with 60k magicka i will tell u big secret. There is no other class in this game who plays in devines with 15k hp and 60k magicka. So adapt or go this change was long awaited finnaly zenimax stood up and done something about shieldstacker and 1 second is not big deal since everyone ignore that shields can be crited so it means no more full devine gear and shield will be buffed by ur physical and spell resist so if u build up nicely u will be able to get hit without dying and also ur shield will be stronger than before.
I play sorc sometimes i main a stamplar. Im trying to let zennimax know before they ruin their game! Because everytime they release a PTS and people complain about one thing zos be like "screw it lets release this update anyways screw the pts review"
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asharokh✭✭webrgesner wrote: »Ok, i understand why you guys nerfed frags and runecage. Now shields can be crit? Thats okay with me. But a 1second cast time to put a shield up?? If its going to be that way then im just going to race change my magsorc to a stam sorc. Magsorcs are fine as it is now. Cmon zenimax -.- Its either too strong or too weak. No ones going to be playing magsorcs once this patch ocmes out
so let me get this right they make a huge mistake and nerf the only reason the class has any survivability and you will reward them by paying them to get a race change token. I see this going over real well now they have incentive to do this to one class after another so you will keep buying tokens1 -
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✭✭✭webrgesner wrote: »Ok, i understand why you guys nerfed frags and runecage. Now shields can be crit? Thats okay with me. But a 1second cast time to put a shield up?? If its going to be that way then im just going to race change my magsorc to a stam sorc. Magsorcs are fine as it is now. Cmon zenimax -.- Its either too strong or too weak. No ones going to be playing magsorcs once this patch ocmes out
so let me get this right they make a huge mistake and nerf the only reason the class has any survivability and you will reward them by paying them to get a race change token. I see this going over real well now they have incentive to do this to one class after another so you will keep buying tokens
They do this anyways with race changes by flip flopping stamina and magickaValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Ozazz✭✭✭✭Peopl have been calling for crits on shields for 2+ years. This is not a surprise and in fact a good change. Now, the 1 sec cast time was completely out of the blue.
of course people are going to object the only thing granting them a free kill you are no different to the 70 to 80% of people that are complicit with it, which in fact i guarantee you don't play the class 100% and realize the class will be utterly useless in pvp aspect, im tired of entitled pugs thinking that they have credible opinions on this subject matter
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webrgesner✭✭✭✭ExcaliburESO wrote: »So much tears, mag sorc will be ruined u say? I say adapt and go on or leave i heared this from crysorcs so many times who said u have to play light armor or who said mag sorc is only full devine gear with 60k magicka i will tell u big secret. There is no other class in this game who plays in devines with 15k hp and 60k magicka. So adapt or go this change was long awaited finnaly zenimax stood up and done something about shieldstacker and 1 second is not big deal since everyone ignore that shields can be crited so it means no more full devine gear and shield will be buffed by ur physical and spell resist so if u build up nicely u will be able to get hit without dying and also ur shield will be stronger than before.
I have 48k mag on my magsorc and i wear all impen. Shields go down FAST. You probably just suck at pvp and dont know how to kill magsorcs2 -
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