Should NB Cloak have a 1 second cast time?

BalticBlues · September 2018

Cheese

Equal rights for ALL, so give all survival skills a cast time...
If your goal is an empty game, this is the way to go...

smtdbplus · September 2018

Cheese

Mage light should remove all enemies' damage shields within 40 meters of the caster.

Turelus · September 2018

No

Nope, it's already got plenty of counter play and hard counters due to complaints over the years.

ExcaliburESO · September 2018

Sneaky sorc salt thread.. I will say this nb never had 20k shields neither ez pz streak streak dark deal skills, shield stacking needed a fix 1 second cast time is the fix (bye bye shieldstaking pro players looks like u will actually have to l2p this time) making crit happen on shields wont fix the spam of them. When u say put cast time on cloak is like lol then i would say put 1 sec cast time on ur streak (ye it sounds stupid) since cloak is an escape skill mainly used to escape a fight just like streak streak boys and invis pot hero or guys who sprint away from fight with stacked speed jewerly. Before u say im a nb main No i am not i have stamina dk and stamina sorc.

FloppyTouch · September 2018

Cheese

I'll take all the cheese tyvm

IndorilArwynLlethran · September 2018

No

All skills cast time, plz! All dodgeable, all blockable, all 1.2 sec delay! More houses and furniture, more sets with only cosmetic difference between them, more achievements like "you have entered a cave", skins, pets, hats, flowers, lets make love, not war!
Seriously, don't give them ideas.

Cavedog · September 2018

Other

I don't think a cast time requirement fixes what is broken. What nightblades need is to not be able to be instantly invisible after engaging in a fight. If they engage in a fight, they should have to fight for at least a few seconds.

The way ZOS has nightblades right now, it lets them attack with full force from stealth, then instantly be invisible. This should not happen. So in game, you get 2/3rds of everyone in cyrodiil attacking, going invisible til they regen, then attacking, instantly going invisible til they regen, and either running off because you're going to kill them, or regenning and attacking and going invisible again for infinity.

This mechanic ZOS is encouraging is breaking cyrodiil and ruining the experience.

......the only people who disagree with the need for this and make snarky remarks instead are the ones abusing this mechanic on their nightblade main.

smokey13a · September 2018

No

I would say it's fine as it is, however I would say yes if 3 conditions were met.

1: ZOS increases the duration of cloak to at least 5 seconds.

2: if ZOS added skills/potions and poisons that nullified/delayed recasting shields (same as it works with cloak)

3: if ZOS added more invisibility skills that were stackable like shields (although that would increase duration instead of increasing the amount of shields).

of course that's just my opinion and to be honest it doesn't really matter as cloak is being compared to shields all over the forum which is stupid because they are supposed to work and play in different ways.

I mean it's like comparing mages wrath/executioner and assassin's blade, yes they are all executes like cloak and shields are defensive skills but they are not the same thing.

efster · September 2018

No

1 second cast time, 2 second duration? I want some of whatever you're on.

Jurand80 · September 2018

Yes

Hahahahahhahha yes!

Nyladreas · September 2018

No

Lol it's apparent people on these forums really have a "problem".

Nicko_Lps · September 2018

Yes

The main reason for these >not-gonna-call-anything< shield nerfs is the forum's whineblades

Yes dear nightblade crybabies, you need to take a taste of your own nerf-tear medicine.

Nicko_Lps · September 2018

Yes

Sharee wrote: »

Malthorne wrote: »

Put a 1 second cast time on cloak to promote skilled gameplay?

You can put a 1s cast time on cloak as soon as there is a potion that lets you ignore damage shields for 15 seconds.

I would not expect a more reasonable answer from a such reasonable person who believes that shield breaker is balanced, LA oblivion dmg kills for EX-skyrim forum whineblade's pleasure and fun.

AuraNebula · September 2018

Cheese

All the Nightblades here don't want their class specific defense skill having a cast time, and Why would they? It would be very damaging to their survivability. Oh wait...

rfennell_ESO · September 2018

No

Malthorne wrote: »

Put a 1 second cast time on cloak to promote skilled gameplay?

Getting "even" update 20 already?

Jhalin · September 2018

No

Cloak will almost never get its full duration in PvP. Shields cast will always absorb the full shield value.

Cloak cannot negate any AoE damage, which also breaks Cloak upon damaging the user. Shields do not expire immediately when a tick of Oblivion damage gets past them.

On top of the cast time being a terrible overall, these skills aren’t even comparable. Just slot and use one AoE and Cloak becomes a waste of a bar slot.

NyassaV · September 2018

Cheese

Please don't give ZOS ideas

Salvas_Aren · September 2018

Cheese

All skills need 2 sec cast time and 4 sec cool down, LA and HA as well.

Lend Zeni a helping hand, get this game destroyed for real.

Sharee · September 2018

No

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Malthorne wrote: »

Put a 1 second cast time on cloak to promote skilled gameplay?

You can put a 1s cast time on cloak as soon as there is a potion that lets you ignore damage shields for 15 seconds.

I would not expect a more reasonable answer from a such reasonable person who believes that shield breaker is balanced, LA oblivion dmg kills for EX-skyrim forum whineblade's pleasure and fun.

The answer was completely reasonable.

If cloak is to have a 1 sec cast time because shield has one, then it stands to reason if there is a potion that allows you to ignore cloak, there should be one that allows you to ignore shields.

olsborg · September 2018

Other

No, but id love to see restriction on spamming it. Atm its too easy, and with nerf to mark it will be cloak freeforall.

Aebaradath · September 2018

NERF EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ilithyania · September 2018

No

ccfeeling wrote: »

1 sec cast time last for 9 second ?

Hardend Ward/Harness Magica had 20 seconds uptime back in the jurassic era i seem to recall.

therefor Cloack should also start with a 20 second uptime

srfrogg23 · September 2018

Other

I don't use cloak or shields. I'm just that awesome

Gilvoth · September 2018

No

this is a Retaliation thread and should be deleted or locked by the moderators.

Hurtfan · September 2018

Cheese

up next, turn based combat...yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Dark_Aether · September 2018

Gorilla wrote: »

I play magblade. Would love 9 sec duration for 1 sec cast.

When I'm getting zerged, I like to GTFO now, not 1 second later after I'm dead. I'm good with 3 seconds duration

jaws343 · September 2018

haelene wrote: »

Guys, stop thinking like zos. Balance isn't synonymous with nerf - we need them to remove the bad changes, not make more bad changes.

I think the point of these types of discussions is more to highlight how absurd the cast time change is by applying it to another skill that can be used to instantly mitigate incoming damage.

Universe · September 2018

Other

Cloak should receive the Streak and dodge roll treatment, casting again within 4 seconds should increase it's cost significantly

krismissee82 · September 2018

No

Cage_Lizardman · September 2018

Yes

Yes. Lets make "nerf cloak" the new thing, now that "nerf sorc" is done and done.

Actually I'd prefer if they'd just improve the counters to cloak, but cast time sounds good too.