I've got mixed feelings on the change to Major Evasion...


On one hand, the mitigation it now provides will be more consistent, which is a good thing...

Also, 25% resistance against all AoE is really strong (I can see this being really strong against certain class's/builds)...


On the flip side, it could sometimes be "brokenly good" against single target abilities like Incap...

And it would also allow you to passively dodge an opponents CC attempts from time to time...


All in all, I gotta wait and see how it performs under real world conditions...

15% AoE reduction from Major + 5% AoE reduction from Minor = relatively balanced without taking a hammer to certain classes

But I could be easily persuaded to go for 10% Major 5% Minor. Do I hear 2.5% Minor?

@Checkmath
@Joy_Division

I waited until Monday to complain. Now I'm looking at someone with the new DW Blackrose weapons getting 25% AoE reduction + 30% major protection from one skill and a 2 pc. Not cool for stamplars. Even without Blackrose DW the nerf to Jabs (and plenty else) is real.

But hey, more heavy armor stamblade buffs!!

I'm just gonna flat out say it.

THE CHANGES TO EVASION ARE TRASH!!

KingJ wrote: »

Leki reduces your vigor ticks so even if it does stack your weakening yourself to just help against AOE damage.

The change still doesn't make me want to run medium now i have 25% AOE reduction in heavy and still more damage.

Yea it's the only thing that suffers in a heavy bleedblade build so can't have that now can we? Still worth using imo. You have way fewer things that can threaten you*. And you still got bloodcraze, forward momentum, lingering health, troll king, NB burst heal, other options as well.

Too easy to build stupid health regen these days with orc/khajit+heavy armor+troll king+gold stam food. Pick the right race, use heavy+troll king, and the new gold food, and you got great survivability before you even decide your 2 5pc sets.

*Leap, DBoS, Jabs, Sub Assault, Spin2Win, plenty of other abilities but those 5 alone make it worth it

KingJ wrote: »

Leki is just a crappy set in general you also lose damage on your Dawnbreaker,Steel Nado,Jabs and other AOE using it on stam.The heavy bleedbuild comment makes no sense in this convo but ok.The reduction to the damage of DB,leap and Jabs I guess is nice but doesn't offset what i lose from my main heal.NB doesn't have a Burst heal Dark cloak is a HOT.Again why are we talking about just stamblades?Where did the mean stamblade touch you.

I agree it to easy to build high health regen currently i would say ZOS will fix that but i don't have faith wrobel can wipe his own behind.

I'm just telling you what the next OP build is gonna be if these changes go live. You won't be using any of those damage skills if you use Leki's, it's a build decision that you can easily work around. Heavy bleedblade has received so many indirect buffs and other classes been nerfed last few patch cycles so that's what we're looking at.

Crazy survivability including massive dmg reduction from pretty much every effective stam burst combo in the game + great pressure, dmg and heals. Come on man you have to see that. I don't want NB nerfed I just want them to stop gutting other classes thru direct and indirect nerfs. This new Evasion is basically *****ing on every stam build's burst combo except stamblade.

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Leki is just a crappy set in general you also lose damage on your Dawnbreaker,Steel Nado,Jabs and other AOE using it on stam.The heavy bleedbuild comment makes no sense in this convo but ok.The reduction to the damage of DB,leap and Jabs I guess is nice but doesn't offset what i lose from my main heal.NB doesn't have a Burst heal Dark cloak is a HOT.Again why are we talking about just stamblades?Where did the mean stamblade touch you.

I agree it to easy to build high health regen currently i would say ZOS will fix that but i don't have faith wrobel can wipe his own behind.

I'm just telling you what the next OP build is gonna be if these changes go live. You won't be using any of those damage skills if you use Leki's, it's a build decision that you can easily work around. Heavy bleedblade has received so many indirect buffs and other classes been nerfed last few patch cycles so that's what we're looking at.

Crazy survivability including massive dmg reduction from pretty much every effective stam burst combo in the game + great pressure, dmg and heals. Come on man you have to see that. I don't want NB nerfed I just want them to stop gutting other classes thru direct and indirect nerfs. This new Evasion is basically *****ing on every stam build's burst combo except stamblade.

No one is gonna use leki's.

Not when you can just be sniped or killed by a nb.

ccmedaddy wrote: »

17% damage loss is not a big deal? Hm. I guess the dmg on sweeps is already so bad the dmg loss will barely be noticeable xD

The dmg is fine, but in your overall burst then yeah 17% on one skill isn't gonna kill the class.

Sweeps scale the same as jabs, just dont expect to build heavy with 35k hp and expect sweeps to hit hard.

And it isn't the main skill only. Templars often use reflective light morph which is aoe morph. It always was the better morph and now it becomes useless against all stamina builds.
Also solar barrage.. They have buffed it in last patch and finally it became useful for once in 4 years. Not anymore in next patch.

I think this buff should be a proc like old suffle. 15% chance to proc 25% aoe mitigation for 4 secs. It is only fair then.
Having 100% uptime strong damage mitigation for half of the skills in game is just plain unbalanced. Blade cloak gave the same buff for years yes but very few people were using it. Now people will have acces this buff from multiple sources and masses of people will be using it.

If you wear Lekis only on one bar without vigor and dawnbreaker, it should work fine.

But tbh i really think ZOS just forgot Lekis...... what a surprise, isn't it?

Xsorus wrote: »

Why run leki's when you can run something similar to it and not get the healing debuff *grin*.

Bastion of the Heartland, yes!

Leki's Two Hander and Heartland on both bars, Master DW backbar with vigor and Dawnbreaker.

Combined with shuffle or blade cloak it is the new meta for zerging, where you really don't need pure damage sets.

I never heard anyone complain about blade cloak before but I've heard lots of complaints about the passive dodge of evasion. Now that dodge has been removed and replaced with blade cloak's effect and suddenly blade cloak is OP. There's no pleasing online gamers lol.

This change now offers more consistent mitigation to medium. However it is going to buff heavy stamblade a bit so we'll see how that plays out. Overall I think they have the right idea with this change. It makes sense as "evasion" would imply being nimble meaning you can avoid some of that area damage.

Hey for everyone who voted to keep PTS Evasion as is, think about something.

Every stam build's burst combo is nerfed with this Evasion change except stamblade. This change is awful for PvP balance and every one of you who isn't a NB should reconsider what this means.

Leap ---> nerfed
Jabs ---> nerfed
Sub Assault ---> nerfed
DBoS ---> nerfed
Meteor ---> nerfed
Curse (but who cares mSorc dead anyway) ---> nerfed
Hurricane ---> nerfed
Incap + Spectral Arrow/Lethal Arrow + Incap ---> I'm great, how are you?

Wake up people, NB is about to become the only solo PvP class in ESO.