ESO Plus Additional Rewards Discussion.

Matthew_Galvanus · September 2018

So at Quakecon 2018 the developers discussed adding new features to ESO Plus to make it more rewarding and I thought it would be a great idea to post some of the ideas I had, maybe get some traction and catch the eye of one of said developers.

#1: ESO Furnishing Bag (as suggested by antoniotf5 https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/435267/eso-plus-furniture-inventory ) This would be another bag, much like the crafting bag which holds an infinite number of furnishings in one place so they aren't eating up bank+inventory spaces. for those like myself who have half a million books from lore furnishing sets to fill a library this would be a huge boon so i didn't have 50+ book furnishing i have that can't be stowed anywhere on account of no space.

#2: Rewarding active subscribers would also be a big step towards making ESO Plus more worthwhile. While we do get a small allowance of crowns and access to DLC, I believe that offering rewards to those who buy consecutive membership month after month would also go a long ways towards encouraging more subscribers. An example of a reward could be giving out a handful of crown crates each month (with the number going up slowly with every month they keep an active subscription), or perhaps offering a small bounty of crown gems so they could buy something they want from the crown crates.

#3: Bolster the already existing perks of ESO Plus. If you wanted to make ESO Plus worth more than a means to have an infinite space for crafting materials, bolstering the exp boost, gold find and further reducing crafting timers would also go a long way. It used to be that we had glyphs that let us bolster the amount of gold we received from kills which has long since been removed and replaced. While what we have is okay, it is still nowhere near the bonus we had from enchanting our gear with that effect.

#4: Adding more perks that affect the player throughout their subscription time. We already have small benefits like i mentioned before (exp boost, more gold, shorter researching timers), but why not add to that, such as boosting the AP players get from Battlegrounds and Cryodiil, increasing the number of keys we get from daily undaunted pledges, or offering a free item from the crown store that changes every month. (like offering a pet one month, and a costume the next, etc)

starkerealm · September 2018

I'd like #1.

I think there was some discussion at Quakecon about returning to loyalty reward systems, and I don't think they were just talking about login rewards. Though, I was working at the time, so I may have missed that.

They're also upgrading the subscriber crown stipend to 1650, which isn't much, but it's nice, and the addition of new stuff in the Crown Store for subscribers which... I'll reserve judgement until we see this.

At the same time, there's a real risk about putting stuff into ESO+ that makes the game too focused on pushing players towards buying subs. The game needs to be fully playable without one, or we're being dishonest every time we say, "no, it's an option."

Could it be better? Yeah. I wouldn't say no to more crates, but at the same time, you, or at least ZOS, needs to measure the value of the goodies against potential lost sales.

That said, a furnishing bag would be wonderful.

Matthew_Galvanus · September 2018

im inclined to agree @starkerealm about not wanting to push ESO Plus as something people need rather than being an option. Which is why something small like some small additional benefits (like extra keys from undaunted, or more AP, etc might be the better route. it'd be something that might tempt more players, but not make it something that's a necessity

Taleof2Cities · September 2018

There was a pretty good idea recently in the forums ... being able to port to a wayshrine for free as ESO+ or at least obtain wayshrine "recall stones" for being an ESO+ member.

I can't remember the forum-goer who suggested that idea but kudos to them ...

Bowser · September 2018

Have the assistants provide full services to ESO+ members.
[*] The banker can access your guild stores.
[*] The merchant can repair equipment.
[*] The fence pays full price and can launder items.

NorthernNightmare · September 2018

Ohh gems gained for months being an eso+ member sounds awesome!

Urvoth · September 2018

I'd also like a siege bag.

Lumenn · September 2018

Keeping a sub means you want long term players. This means new content(that many burn through and scream for more) and/or alts. New content is great until it's constant, small, boring bug filled stuff just to say HERE see it's NEW(reskin) Plus you have to pay your team to plan develop, implement, and bug fix. Id rather they take their time and give us quality content. Alts though you can encourage, and without paying a team for "new" fast content. Just turn up the values already in place. exp boost.(once you hit cp cap it doesn't effect anything, but making that 1-50 a bit better would help). Increase the crafting inspiration and speed. I like my alts to have all traits and extra motifs(after my main crafter) and this game takes some real time on that. Double the skill points for eso plus. For every one(level, quest, skyshards) you get two. Makes raising an alt less tedious before hunting down all the skyshards. I WOULD say account wide mount upgrades but ZOS probably makes serious crown cash on that one. No major coding or super effects here to cost zos money, just tweak what's there to ease some of the alt issues.

MLGProPlayer · September 2018

I would re-sub if the allowance went up to 2000 crowns.

1500 isn't enticing since that's the cost of 1500 crowns on their own. Craft bag is nice, but not a requirement for me.

Acrolas · September 2018

Maybe a purchase option that trades the 10% progression bonuses for an additional 150 crowns per month, making it 1800 total. I don't think we can get to 2000 crowns without the price of the sub going up.

iiYuki · September 2018

Gifting random items; mounts, pets, motifs.
A few hundred gems per month.
Discount in the cash store on all items.
Free costume changes.

Universe · September 2018

While adding some additional rewards for ESO plus members is fine, there shouldn't be too many good rewards.
ESO plus membership is a good feature but it shouldn't be a MUST HAVE feature.
Furthermore, adding features which are P2W or borderline P2W will be quite bad.

Gorgoneus · September 2018

Any differences with trial version of F2P games? In trial version you get reduced amount of exp and currencyes you must buy subscription for a full amount. ESO will have normal amount of exp and currencyes and extra amount with subscription.
Any real difference between this 2 systems? This is relative objections you can't really say where is normal and where is reduced/boosted amount. We just have version with a smaller and bigger amount of exp and currencyes.

How about new ESO+ bonus: "press to kill" botton?
Don't be like a glutton pigs, you're always talking about your subscription reason as a game supporting, so go ahead, support it, why you asking more and more comebacks from it? You're always can play any korean trash with p2w stuff, but why are you asking it in ESO?
And please don't tell this trash talks about "this isn't p2w" stuff, different game objectives - different goals considering as win.

ruikkarikun · September 2018

You all want too much guys, gg wp.

Universe · September 2018

Gorgoneus wrote: »

Any differences with trial version of F2P games? In trial version you get reduced amount of exp and currencyes you must buy subscription for a full amount. ESO will have normal amount of exp and currencyes and extra amount with subscription.
Any real difference between this 2 systems? This is relative objections you can't really say where is normal and where is reduced/boosted amount. We just have version with a smaller and bigger amount of exp and currencyes.

How about new ESO+ bonus: "press to kill" botton?
Don't be like a glutton pigs, you're always talking about your subscription reason as a game supporting, so go ahead, support it, why you asking more and more comebacks from it? You're always can play any korean trash with p2w stuff, but why are you asking it in ESO?
And please don't tell this trash talks about "this isn't p2w" stuff, different game objectives - different goals considering as win.

Sadly, each update brings ESO closer to the Korean P2W MMOs.
For example, crown store gifting essentially implemented gold buying from other players through the sale of crown store items for gold.
Now players can use their real life money and convert it to gold by purchasing crowns packs, then the crown store items and then selling it to other players for gold.

randomkeyhits · September 2018

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There was a pretty good idea recently in the forums ... being able to port to a wayshrine for free as ESO+ or at least obtain wayshrine "recall stones" for being an ESO+ member.

I can't remember the forum-goer who suggested that idea but kudos to them ...

Extend the idea to skill point and champ point respecs and you add extra engagement for players as they can then experiment to their hearts content with different builds.

Danikat · September 2018

I'm not sure this is within the scope of the changes currently being considered but the best thing they could do to get me to subscribe is to offer a 'pay as you go' model where instead of a fixed number of days you buy hours of subscription time and it's only used up when you're actually online.

The main thing that puts me off subscribing is it's virtually impossible for me to know in advance how much free time I'll have over the next 30 days (and how much I'll want to play ESO) so I can easily end up wasting money buying sub time I don't use, and as a result I tend to avoid buying it at all. I've done it twice, and both times it was so I could dye costumes - so I look at it as buying a bunch of dye stamps which are actually useful instead of the heavily restricted ones in the crown store.

But if I was only using up my sub when I'm actually online I wouldn't have to worry about that.

(Of course it wouldn't be 720 hours for the price of a 30-day sub. It could be worked out based on the average number of hours players log in per day, so maybe 60 hours for £9/$15. For people who play a lot the current model would still be better, but for people who aren't on often enough to justify a sub now it could be a much better option. (And if you do find your time running out in under a month you can always switch.)

jainiadral · September 2018

Danikat wrote: »

I'm not sure this is within the scope of the changes currently being considered but the best thing they could do to get me to subscribe is to offer a 'pay as you go' model where instead of a fixed number of days you buy hours of subscription time and it's only used up when you're actually online.

The main thing that puts me off subscribing is it's virtually impossible for me to know in advance how much free time I'll have over the next 30 days (and how much I'll want to play ESO) so I can easily end up wasting money buying sub time I don't use, and as a result I tend to avoid buying it at all. I've done it twice, and both times it was so I could dye costumes - so I look at it as buying a bunch of dye stamps which are actually useful instead of the heavily restricted ones in the crown store.

But if I was only using up my sub when I'm actually online I wouldn't have to worry about that.

(Of course it wouldn't be 720 hours for the price of a 30-day sub. It could be worked out based on the average number of hours players log in per day, so maybe 60 hours for £9/$15. For people who play a lot the current model would still be better, but for people who aren't on often enough to justify a sub now it could be a much better option. (And if you do find your time running out in under a month you can always switch.)

How about a per diem rate-- say buy seven (or fifteen) days worth of sub logins that don't expire and don't have to be used consecutively? Each "day" consists of a 24 period with unlimited time and logins. You could choose at login to pick the "plus" version or the regular one if you're just popping in to claim rewards.

I think your idea has a lot of potential. TBH, if I wasn't logging in almost daily, I'd probably skip ESO+. It doesn't feel worth it if you're going to be unavailable during half the month.

menathradiel · September 2018

There's a pinned thread for this already, OP. Why did you feel the need to make a whole new thread, and not even in the appropriate forum section?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/318400/ideas-for-eso-plus

Matthew_Galvanus · September 2018

Bowser wrote: »

Have the assistants provide full services to ESO+ members.
[*] The banker can access your guild stores.
[*] The merchant can repair equipment.
[*] The fence pays full price and can launder items.

i would have to say no to this to be honest. the point of improving the rewards of ESO Plus is to make it something more players will want without making it something players need.

Matthew_Galvanus · September 2018

menathradiel wrote: »

There's a pinned thread for this already, OP. Why did you feel the need to make a whole new thread, and not even in the appropriate forum section?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/318400/ideas-for-eso-plus

considering this is the general eso discussion forum, this is an entirely appropriate place for me to post my thread, the reason for making my own is to call attention to ideas i personally want to pitch and want those to be the first thing a developer sees rather than them trying to comb through however many hundreds or posts in one thread.