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Let’s talk nerfs...
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SHADOW2KK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »boombazookajd wrote: »Oh look, the pvp community qq'ing again...
color me surprised.
Oh look, the PvE community generalizing again...
color me surprised.
Using the same joke as someone else
How original
Whining in other threads about getting lit up in IC while having no clue how to play and calling out for PvP`ers to be banned for a playstyle that IC is meant for.
How whiney and not even original.
Reistr The Unbroken got broken.Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.
Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..
Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014
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Reistr_the_Unbroken✭✭✭✭✭
✭LiquidPony wrote: »
Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed. The point of the class reps is that they're supposed to have a holistic view of the game, unlike posts like this which are clearly PvP QQs with absolutely no thought to how the changes would affect the other 90% of the game.
This ^
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »boombazookajd wrote: »Oh look, the pvp community qq'ing again...
color me surprised.
Oh look, the PvE community generalizing again...
color me surprised.
Using the same joke as someone else
How original
Whining in other threads about getting lit up in IC while having no clue how to play and calling out for PvP`ers to be banned for a playstyle that IC is meant for.
How whiney and not even original.
Reistr The Unbroken got broken.
#GotSpîked
"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU1 -
SugaComa✭✭✭✭✭The players that actually know how to play are pissed that shields are getting a nerf / counter play when they’ve already gotten a nerf a while back and already have a HUGE counter play to it.
DoTs and bleeds. Double DoT poisons, resource poisons, PoL, Jabs, Venomous claw, rendering slashes, DB and zerglings.
A DECENT StamPlar, Nightblade, DK and warden can kill a Sorc with shields np... funny thing is, I’ve named every class in the game besides a sorc it’s self and a MagPlar.
DK’s and Wardens have wings / shimmering which already counters a HUGE part of the burst, and this allows the player to play offensive on the sorc making him play defensive with shields and magicka. ANY decent player knows that MagSorcs are easy to kill. ESPECIALLY when you catch them with no shields.
You already have counter play!
Shield breaker, sloads and OBLIVION ENCHANTS in general! Those KILL MagSorcs. If anything THOSE should be getting a nerf.
There’s going to be that one player that cries saying “well I don’t want to run those sets” ... too bad? Ig you’re going to have to L2P.
When was the last time MagSorcs got a buff that was actually useful? When was the last time a NB or Warden got a nerf that actually affected them? (MagDen nerf with beetles was brutal however)
Mag classes are already horrible in PvP as it is. Stamina classes just out perform them in almost every aspect.
Templars for example, imo aedric passive need a nerf. WAY to much free damage just given to them. Wardens? Shimmering shield shouldn’t give as much magicka back as it does and it should only be minor heroism not major.
StamDKs are just trash right now compared to the other Stam classes. Sure major mending is nice, but that’s really all they have for them.
StamBlade is still a joke.. heavy armor and rolly polly cloak away medium armor. Then Incap still gives them that bonus damage which they DO NOT need. Screw the stun it wasn’t a problem it was the bonus damage that hurt.
StamSorcs are eh. I think they’re pretty balanced right now.
But even with StamDK being the worst Stam class right now, imo, it’s still better than all the Mag classes. (MAYBE except MagDK)
And if anything on shields they need a buff. 8 seconds. 6 is way to short. But 8? Not to short and not to long. 20 second shields to 6 second was ridiculous. It should have. Been 8 seconds.
The people that struggle to kill MagSorcs are the same zerglings that already can’t play PvP solo, are new to PvP, have a damn PvE setup in PvP, don’t know how to play against a MagSorc, and are the same ones you see spamming snipe in the back of a Zerg or light attacking the air and throwing out a random ult completely missing, and sing breath of life on a StamPlar. It’s the same players that are just bad in general at ESO.
ZOS... STOP listening to the casual players that play maybe 20 hours a week. Listen to the players that play the 60+ hours a week, or the players that are actual skilled veterans. They will be the ones who know what needs to change because they actually have the EXPERIENCE of seeing and playing with / around such sets, skills, classes etc.
Sh*t like this is why ESO will be dead when the new big titles come out such as Halo, CoD BO4, Bf5, AOC, Crowfall, RDR2 etc.
good job on killing your game ?? Gotta at least give you guys the “best worst company” award. If you put a little more effort into your game and actually listen to people who know what they’re talking about, the games I’ve mentioned wouldn’t be such a huge issue with competition.
This is actually the dumbest thing I've heard ...
The game.needs balancing and time.played per week doesn't mean your input is more valid ...
I play a lot of hours per week, intact if I'm not eating sleeping or working I'm playing ESO ... But should I be the one to listen to when it comes to changing sorcs ... Hell no ... I don't at them enough I have played them
Do I know the game is imbalanced yes I do ...
The problem is the shear amount of things to balance... Just too many equations
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✭✭✭✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »boombazookajd wrote: »Oh look, the pvp community qq'ing again...
color me surprised.
Oh look, the PvE community generalizing again...
color me surprised.
Using the same joke as someone else
How original
Susano'o
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »
Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed. The point of the class reps is that they're supposed to have a holistic view of the game, unlike posts like this which are clearly PvP QQs with absolutely no thought to how the changes would affect the other 90% of the game.
this ^
worded perfectly
Edited by Gilvoth on September 14, 2018 6:21PM1 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »
Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed. The point of the class reps is that they're supposed to have a holistic view of the game, unlike posts like this which are clearly PvP QQs with absolutely no thought to how the changes would affect the other 90% of the game.
This ^
"Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed"
Sure, if only people listened to this when they were b*tching about Streak and ShieldsValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Reistr_the_Unbroken✭✭✭✭✭
✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »
Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed. The point of the class reps is that they're supposed to have a holistic view of the game, unlike posts like this which are clearly PvP QQs with absolutely no thought to how the changes would affect the other 90% of the game.
This ^
"Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed"
Sure, if only people listened to this when they were b*tching about Streak and Shields
Wasn’t my quote, go find the person that actually wrote it
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »
Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed. The point of the class reps is that they're supposed to have a holistic view of the game, unlike posts like this which are clearly PvP QQs with absolutely no thought to how the changes would affect the other 90% of the game.
This ^
"Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed"
Sure, if only people listened to this when they were b*tching about Streak and Shields
Wasn’t my quote, go find the person that actually wrote it
You say "this" like you agree with it, and I agree with them too.
I like how people on the forums b*tch over so many things that they'll even b*tch about the way people reply to posts.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
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Or you could throw on one of the many cloak counters.
You know like steel tornado? I've never had a nb get away when im on a dw character.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Reistr_the_Unbroken✭✭✭✭✭
✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »
Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed. The point of the class reps is that they're supposed to have a holistic view of the game, unlike posts like this which are clearly PvP QQs with absolutely no thought to how the changes would affect the other 90% of the game.
This ^
"Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed"
Sure, if only people listened to this when they were b*tching about Streak and Shields
Wasn’t my quote, go find the person that actually wrote it
You say "this" like you agree with it, and I agree with them too.
I like how people on the forums b*tch over so many things that they'll even b*tch about the way people reply to posts.
Oof I misread what you wrote
Did streak and Shield get nerfed too?
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »
Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed. The point of the class reps is that they're supposed to have a holistic view of the game, unlike posts like this which are clearly PvP QQs with absolutely no thought to how the changes would affect the other 90% of the game.
This ^
"Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed"
Sure, if only people listened to this when they were b*tching about Streak and Shields
Wasn’t my quote, go find the person that actually wrote it
You say "this" like you agree with it, and I agree with them too.
I like how people on the forums b*tch over so many things that they'll even b*tch about the way people reply to posts.
Oof I misread what you wrote
Did streak and Shield get nerfed too?
They got nerfed a long time ago. Shields used to have a 20 second duration and were 50% stronger (50% higher damage and healing though, and these applied to everyone...battle spirit)
Streak didn't used to have a stacking MP costValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »
Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed. The point of the class reps is that they're supposed to have a holistic view of the game, unlike posts like this which are clearly PvP QQs with absolutely no thought to how the changes would affect the other 90% of the game.
This ^
"Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed"
Sure, if only people listened to this when they were b*tching about Streak and Shields
Wasn’t my quote, go find the person that actually wrote it
You say "this" like you agree with it, and I agree with them too.
I like how people on the forums b*tch over so many things that they'll even b*tch about the way people reply to posts.
Oof I misread what you wrote
Did streak and Shield get nerfed too?
They got nerfed a long time ago. Shields used to have a 20 second duration and were 50% stronger (50% higher damage and healing though, and these applied to everyone...battle spirit)
Streak didn't used to have a stacking MP cost
They was 35% stronger i believe they had 15% reduction with old battle spirit.
And dmg had 20% reduction.
So they got a 5% nerf when battle spirit got put to 50%.
PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »
Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed. The point of the class reps is that they're supposed to have a holistic view of the game, unlike posts like this which are clearly PvP QQs with absolutely no thought to how the changes would affect the other 90% of the game.
This ^
"Stop asking for nerfs where they aren't needed"
Sure, if only people listened to this when they were b*tching about Streak and Shields
Wasn’t my quote, go find the person that actually wrote it
You say "this" like you agree with it, and I agree with them too.
I like how people on the forums b*tch over so many things that they'll even b*tch about the way people reply to posts.
Oof I misread what you wrote
Did streak and Shield get nerfed too?
They got nerfed a long time ago. Shields used to have a 20 second duration and were 50% stronger (50% higher damage and healing though, and these applied to everyone...battle spirit)
Streak didn't used to have a stacking MP cost
They was 35% stronger i believe they had 15% reduction with old battle spirit.
And dmg had 20% reduction.
So they got a 5% nerf when battle spirit got put to 50%.
Tbh I wanted to confirm this by looking at the battle spirit passive but I can't find any wiki pages for the skill.
I want to say I remember something like this. Even a 5% nerf is pretty unnecessary though imo, especially when damage scales much better than shields as the game goes onValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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