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Thanks for the reply. The combat metrics screenshot I took was on the pts wearing zaans, necropotence, and siroria's.

Would you still use clench as an execute, say below 20%? Or even mage's wrath perhaps?

SilverWF wrote: »

36k isn't a good DPS?
Wow, but lol

Lol. It isn't that it's bad, it's just that I should be able to do more. I'm max CP and have been playing for a while, but I can't reach real endgame levels.

You do realize Siroria does nothing for your familiar damage, right?

Personally I would swap Juli for Mother's sorrow, swap to the lover (unless you plan on only doing hardcore trials 24/7 with max pen) and do this rotation:
liquid lightning > la > blockade > swap > heavy attack > daedric prey > heavy attack > volitile familiar > swap > la > repeat
(make sure to animation cancel the blockade and volatile familiar with a swap)

With necro + MS + vMA lightning staff + Zaans I'm able to pull about 41k with this.

If you switch to infallible aether instead of julianos you can hit about 43k.

Benefits:
- Only requires volitile familiar (can use the matriarch healing morph instead)
- 2 heavy attacks = infinite sustain therefore you can easily use blue food
- 1 to 2 light attack weaves

codestripper wrote: »

Personally I would swap Juli for Mother's sorrow, swap to the lover (unless you plan on only doing hardcore trials 24/7 with max pen) and do this rotation:
liquid lightning > la > blockade > swap > heavy attack > daedric prey > heavy attack > volitile familiar > swap > la > repeat
(make sure to animation cancel the blockade and volatile familiar with a swap)

With necro + MS + vMA lightning staff + Zaans I'm able to pull about 41k with this.

If you switch to infallible aether instead of julianos you can hit about 43k.

Benefits:
- Only requires volitile familiar (can use the matriarch healing morph instead)
- 2 heavy attacks = infinite sustain therefore you can easily use blue food
- 1 to 2 light attack weaves

I plan on using this set-up for a vMA farm build

ruikkarikun wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

SilverWF wrote: »

glennsfono wrote: »

SilverWF wrote: »

36k isn't a good DPS?
Wow, but lol

Lol. It isn't that it's bad, it's just that I should be able to do more. I'm max CP and have been playing for a while, but I can't reach real endgame levels.

You ALREADY reached it

Also, I wish I has your ping...

Dude, these days if you don't do 40k you aren't even allowed in proper guilds.

Look elitist here, all go for corners.

Hes not being an elitist, hes telling you how it is for real endgame progression.

I’m following this as I just started pet Sorc.

Illambris or zaan.
Necro
Vma firestaff back bar
IA jewelry and frontbar lightning

Blue food.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

You do realize Siroria does nothing for your familiar damage, right?

Yeah, I know. It's just one of the many sets and things I've tried.

codestripper wrote: »

That's odd man, that's literally my exact setup and rotation and I pull 43k on a dummy consistently. When I get home I'll post my CP. That might be your issue.

That'd be cool if you could. I appreciate it.

Do you think the speed that I'm weaving and animation canceling by barswap is too slow? Or am I doing anything wrong in my weaving?

glennsfono wrote: »

codestripper wrote: »

That's odd man, that's literally my exact setup and rotation and I pull 43k on a dummy consistently. When I get home I'll post my CP. That might be your issue.

That'd be cool if you could. I appreciate it.

Do you think the speed that I'm weaving and animation canceling by barswap is too slow? Or am I doing anything wrong in my weaving?

Here is the whole build, enchantments and all. Everything about this build is the way it is for a reason. I spent weeks doing different combinations and different rotations to get it how it is right now.



That's all I can do tonight, but if you want to add me PC/NA @CodeStripper I can go over the rotation with you. I'll be making a post about it on the forums soon enough I'm sure.

codestripper wrote: »

glennsfono wrote: »

codestripper wrote: »

That's odd man, that's literally my exact setup and rotation and I pull 43k on a dummy consistently. When I get home I'll post my CP. That might be your issue.

That'd be cool if you could. I appreciate it.

Do you think the speed that I'm weaving and animation canceling by barswap is too slow? Or am I doing anything wrong in my weaving?

Yeah no problem, I'm at work right now and I'll be home in about 2 hours, so I haven't had a chance to actually watch the video yet. If you're on PC/NA I can come in game and walk you through the rotation and help you diagnose your dps there, If not, I'll post screenshots of my exact build and enchantments, as well as a rotation video up on the forum so you can see exactly what I do.

Yes, I'm on PC and Xbox, so I'll add you in a bit when I get home. Ty, but the video won't really help, as I'm mimicking everyone else's videos exactly, as far as I can tell, and it just isn't working.

The video is about a minute and twenty seconds long, if you're able to give it a watch. Otherwise, if I can find you in game I'd love the chance to work with you and show you what I'm doing. The only thing I can think of is that somehow I'm just not weaving right or quickly enough, even though my uptime is pretty good. I'm consistently up to about 90% for prey and familiar.

glennsfono wrote: »

codestripper wrote: »

And here is a gif with my cmx parse. Including daedric prey uptime.

Thanks for helping me out. I'll punch the build into the pts when I get back. The gif link may be bad, though.

Should be fixed now, sorry about that, didn't know that website deleted it after such a short period of time. By the looks of that video, you rotation speed doesn't seem to be an issue though, just a bad rotation for a pet sorc. Despite what you might think, daedric prey uptime isn't everything. Mine is only about 70% for instance as shown in the gif. I get home from work around 5pm CST, and i'm only able to play for about 2 hours after that because of my work schedule. If that doesn't work out for ya then we can do this on the weekend.

Good luck on the PTS though, for one of my friends using the build, he went from pulling 23k dps to 35k just because of his enchantments being wrong. Everything in my build is the way it is for a reason, and it takes time on a dummy to pull the numbers I and other people can. you can't expect to get the same result after only a few rotations, unless you're a rotation learning god, which you might be lol.

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

codestripper wrote: »

Personally I would swap Juli for Mother's sorrow, swap to the lover (unless you plan on only doing hardcore trials 24/7 with max pen) and do this rotation:
liquid lightning > la > blockade > swap > heavy attack > daedric prey > heavy attack > volitile familiar > swap > la > repeat
(make sure to animation cancel the blockade and volatile familiar with a swap)

With necro + MS + vMA lightning staff + Zaans I'm able to pull about 41k with this.

If you switch to infallible aether instead of julianos you can hit about 43k.

Benefits:
- Only requires volitile familiar (can use the matriarch healing morph instead)
- 2 heavy attacks = infinite sustain therefore you can easily use blue food
- 1 to 2 light attack weaves

To be clear:

• This is with relatively few light attacks? (1-2 in what looks like an 8-second rotation)
• Glyphs/traits on the staffs?
• Fire or lightning on the Necro staff?
• Expensive pots? (How much DPS would dropping to cheap pots use?)
• Both pets?
• Pets x 4 + two AoE ground-based DoTs + Clench + Daedric Prey + I presume a shield = 9; what do you usually do for the 10th slot?
• Elemental Drain assumed for the "infinite sustain" claim?
• Which jewelry enchants?

Thanks!

• This is with relatively few light attacks? (1-2 in what looks like an 8-second rotation) - correct, usually only 1
• Glyphs/traits on the staffs? - lightning front bar, fire back
• Fire or lightning on the Necro staff? - I don't use a necro staff. I have either mother's sorrow or infallible aether on front bar, paired with a vMA lightning staff. Necropotence should not be put on the weapons. Again, see my build screenshot above...
• Expensive pots? (How much DPS would dropping to cheap pots use?) - I use them just for the uptime on the back bar, 2k dps loss maybe
• Both pets? - yep, 1 matriarch and 1 volatile familiar
• Pets x 4 + two AoE ground-based DoTs + Clench + Daedric Prey + I presume a shield = 9; what do you usually do for the 10th slot? - I don't use clench, if you look at the top right of my build posted above you can see all of my skills.
• Elemental Drain assumed for the "infinite sustain" claim? - nope, not needed. I use drain specifically for the penetration bonus.
• Which jewelry enchants? - spell damage on all

SquareSausage wrote: »

Here's my double pet, no pot at all set up.
Don't even need to use trash pots.
Totally smokes vMA or 4 man content were you can run as the healer with twilight matriarch.
https://youtu.be/_dsJKDjilX4

I'm running thief. I get more with lover on dummy though.

I tested exact same setup and I have 9-10k lower dps

Most likely, this is because @ZOS is too poor to rent a gateway server in the Russia, lol.