Sets for Stamina Sorcerer PvE

gamerguy757 · September 2018

So I finally got my Stamina Sorcerer to CP780. Took a few days lol.
I have only run Magicka toons for PvE, and farmed sets with my Magblade for this moment.
What sets are good for a player just starting out with a Stamina toon? This is what I have so far
Vicious Ophidian
Relequen
Hundings Rage

Is HR/VO still a good idea? This isn't a L2P thing (well kind of is lol), I'm honestly looking for tips from Stamina users.

Aliyavana · September 2018

Reliquin and berserking warrior I believe are the meta

Aliyavana · September 2018

Double post srry

gamerguy757 · September 2018

Aliyavana wrote: »

Reliquin and berserking warrior I believe are the meta

From what I'm seeing, would Relequen be good for VMA? it seems like the wind proc wouldn't be good for solo play?

XxCaLxX · September 2018

VO is still and will always be great. Hundings is good enough for anything. Berserkimg warrior is good too. But please know your build as a stamina sorc and don’t listen to meta. As stam sorc is easy to push stamina over 40k and with that leviathan out performs advancing yokeda. If you are using infused jewelry and stacking weapon damage then advancing yokeda is better. Ppl just tend to look at builds and copy them without understanding why that build works better than others but either way all these sets are only going to have a few K difference at most between them.

MashmalloMan · September 2018

I main stam sorc. I run 2 setups for content I run.

This setup is my favourite because stormfist and relequen really fit the class theme of storm/wind. I use it for competitive dps in pve. I can solo parse 40k dps with this, no major fracture, minor berserk or warhorn.

Relequen (body) + Ravaging (weapons/jewelery) + Stormfist monster set. VMA Infused Bow back bar with poison enchant. (Will proc from your endless hail on front/back bar)

Use Lover mundus and cp to reach 7-8k penetration. Don't use sharpened weapons.

You can replace Ravaging set with Veiled Heritance or Advancing Yokeda.

Ravaging: Crazy strong buff for 645dmg, I found it was better than Veiled Heritance for different reasons. I found it with gold jewelery at only 60-80k each piece while Veiled Heritance is hard to farm as it is a dropped set from Auridon. This means I was able to use infused and bloodthirsty to full affect with the Ravaging set where I would have a MUCH harder time finding them on the Veiled/Advancing Yokeda sets.

Ravaging has a 1200 hp bonus which helps you as a stam sorc reach 17k hp target, you will be running dubious cameron throne because sustain is bad so 1200 hp is just as good as any stam/dmg bonus.

For Ravaging to be useful, you need to average out about 55-60% uptime or greater. Sometimes I hit 80% but most of the time it is 50-65%.

Veiled Heritance can be bought, but harder to find with lower supply. Plus side is you can get 95% uptime on the 5 second buff because of no cooldown but because you will be most likely using purple jewelery the set will have a dmg buff of only 385 dmg or so.

Veiled Heritance has a physical defence stat which isn't helpful. You sacrifice a stat because you still need to hit that 17k hp threshold meaning you need to lose stamina on another part of your build.

Advancing Yokeda is just harder to farm because its from a trial. I like the crit bonus to help with crit surge, but it isn't necessary, they come out around the same dmg with Advancing coming on top, however the analyis I saw from someone else didn't take in to account Ravaging's HP bonus or the fact that you can get gold easily which was important to me anyhow.

For PVE overland or skyreach I use this.

Vicious Ophidian (body) + Veiled Herritance (weapons/jewelery) + Valkyn Skoria (monster set). It's really fun for aoe dmg, doesn't require me to switch my mundus. Use supression field for crazy ult aoe.

MashmalloMan · September 2018

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Reliquin and berserking warrior I believe are the meta

From what I'm seeing, would Relequen be good for VMA? it seems like the wind proc wouldn't be good for solo play?

It isn't. I swap it out for VO.

Mister_DMC · September 2018

Vo and Automaton are also still good

Bevik · September 2018

How about VO and Briarheart?

Mister_DMC · September 2018

Vo, relequen, TFS, briarheart, hundings, Ravager, advancing yokeda, Leviathan, or automaton. Pick any 2 and you'll be fine.

MashmalloMan · September 2018

To be clear tons of sets are viable, just different setups are better for maximizing dps.

You want to hit 7-9k penetration. 9k solo because mobs have 9.1k resistances and in VMA same thing, some of the bosses in VMA have 18.2k. Group dungeons/trials have 18.2k as well. In a group you will get access to major fracture/minor fracture/alkosh/crusher enchant. Stam sorc's do not have major fracture.

If you run ONLY solo content, 9k penetration. If you run group content 7-8k penetration to not over penetrate with group buffs.

Lover mundus 4196 (full gold divines)
Base 100
CP for remaining penetration to get you to 7-9k as a total. I like using 8k.

There is 2 types of sets, buff sets and static sets. You want to do a combination of the 2 to get as much uptime on your stats as possible. This is because you should always be running a VMA bow back bar which takes off 1 of your set bonuses.

Static Sets:

Vicious Ophidian
Hundings Rage
Relequen (can't let the stacks fall off - will give most single target dps)
Leviathan
Automaton
Spriggans (weaker than Twice Fanged serpent)

Buff Sets:

Ravaging (Heavy - Requires transmutation on jewelery) --> My favorite. 55-80% uptime, more rng dependant, requires relequen to proc it more often. If relequen changes from being counted as"Melee DMG" then this set will fall off to the below 2.
Advancing Yokeda (Heavy - Requires transmutation on jewelery - can get 90-95% uptime)
Veiled Herritance (Heavy - Requires transmutation on jewelery - can get 90-95% uptime)

Twice Fanged Serpent (buff is only 3seconds - will almost always fall off in a rotation) If you use this, change penetration elsewhere accordingly to hit that mark, I've gotten 80-90% uptime) I prefer this as a static set.

Briarheart - Has CD of 15 seconds for a buff of 10seconds meaning max uptime is 66%.
Night Mother's Gaze (crafted set, hard to get for jewelery) Use for major fracture if needed for Solo content.

MashmalloMan · September 2018

Bevik wrote: »

How about VO and Briarheart?

Briarheart works but there are better combos. The heal I find lackluster when crit surge does the same thing.

450 dmg buff with max 66% uptime (will probably average out 55-60%)

450 * 0.6 = 270 Weapon DMG on average which puts it in line with hundings rage. I'd use briarheart over hundings for a jewelary+weapon buff set.

If you can transmute veiled/advancing yokeda/ravager, they will beat briarheart as a buff set.

Bevik · September 2018

Marshall1289 wrote: »

Bevik wrote: »

How about VO and Briarheart?

Briarheart works but there are better combos. The heal I find lackluster when crit surge does the same thing.

450 dmg buff with max 66% uptime (will probably average out 55-60%)

450 * 0.6 = 270 Weapon DMG on average which puts it in line with hundings rage. I'd use briarheart over hundings for a jewelary+weapon buff set.

If you can transmute veiled/advancing yokeda/ravager, they will beat briarheart as a buff set.

I will wait until the PTS. Until that I'm going to farm Relequen and try to sort out my actual sets. I'm running VO and Hundings but in a very bad order. 2 daggers, 3 body Hundings, 2 body, 3 jewellery VO and vMA bow with Stormfist. Have Automaton without weapons, Briarheart with weapons. Going to farm a bit for Advancig aswell as I have 4 stamina DDs and I like to have their own sets also. Have VO weapons too and I really want my StamSorc sorted as it is my favourite char. I think I have TFS also but without weapons.

Ravaging seems pretty reasonable but that would mean 5x trait changes well 6 with my Nirn vMA bow to Infused.

OrphanHelgen · September 2018

XxCaLxX wrote: »

VO is still and will always be great. Hundings is good enough for anything. Berserkimg warrior is good too. But please know your build as a stamina sorc and don’t listen to meta. As stam sorc is easy to push stamina over 40k and with that leviathan out performs advancing yokeda. If you are using infused jewelry and stacking weapon damage then advancing yokeda is better. Ppl just tend to look at builds and copy them without understanding why that build works better than others but either way all these sets are only going to have a few K difference at most between them.

Berserking warrior has more crit on 5th piece than leviathan, also remember to take into account the 5% from minor brutality buff you are getting from DK's.

Tannus15 · September 2018

a couple of notes on the current meta.

ravaging really relies on the fact that relequen stacks can proc it. You get insane uptime on
If you're not using relequen, i'd recommend something other than ravaging.

all 3 sets, ravaging, berserking and heritance require 150 transmute crystals and researched infused necklace and ring. If you don't have this then don't use these sets.

any fight where you regularly switch targets, like vMA, relequen is bad. Only use it in fights where you are mostly focused on a single target.

gamerguy757 · September 2018

Hmm okay I appreciate it!
I use my Stamina Toon as my "Farmer" so she's running Cowards and Fiords right now to run around picking up nodes lol.
My PvE build right now is"

5x Hundings
5x VO
2x Selene's/Stormfist

but this is only for VMA. This probably won't work for Trials/Dungeons?

GreenhaloX · September 2018

All good sets as posted by others. Sure, I like VO and TFS, but I haven't ran trials for eons now. I have 3 stamsorcs; 2 are 2H/bow and 2H/S&B and the 3rd is DW/bow. These sets work great and kill em all nicely just fine: Sword-Singer and MA, Sword-Singer and Shacklebreaker and the DW is Sword Dancer and MA (with the 2 pieces monster set, of course.) Sure, crit helps, but also depends greatly on what skills and rotations being utilized. I just love dropping Endless Hail/Razor Cal/Liquid L/Brawler and Hurricane as some nice AOE and DoTs starter on those world bosses and dungeons. Touch up with Poison Injection and whack the living daylights of them with Dizzying Swing or Wrecking Blow. For the DW, add in the Deadly Cloak in place of the Brawler, give a death kiss with the Rending Slashes or perhaps Shrouded Daggers before the onslaught of the Rapid Strikes. Just sweet symphony of destruction..

MashmalloMan · September 2018

Marshall1289 wrote: »

Ravaging (Heavy - Requires transmutation on jewelery) --> My favourite. 55-80% uptime, bit more rng dependant.
Advancing Yokeda (Heavy - Requires transmutation on jewelery - can get 90-95% uptime)
Veiled Herritance (Heavy - Requires transmutation on jewelery - can get 90-95% uptime)

If your using a heavy set that I mentioned above. There isn't a huge rush to transmute each jewelery peice

Tannus15 wrote: »

ravaging really relies on the fact that relequen stacks can proc it. You get insane uptime on
If you're not using relequen, i'd recommend something other than ravaging.

This is very much true, I only use ravaging in tandem with relequen otherwise the uptime drops to 45-55% easily on average. Updated my comment to include that bit of info.

Tannus15 wrote: »

all 3 sets, ravaging, berserking and heritance require 150 transmute crystals and researched infused necklace and ring. If you don't have this then don't use these sets.

I'd say it depends. People are scared off by the healthy trait, but if you think in the mindset of meeting that 17k hp requirement for group content like I do, when using dubious cameron throne you will be short hp. With ravaging having 1 jewelery as healthy until you can transmute them provides very minimal difference in dps.

For example: 6 med 1 heavy, 64 stamina invested, all armor stamina, dubious cameron throne with all passives for undaunted and heavy armor, 1 heathly ring using ravaging placed my hp at 17.5k.

This is even more apparent when using veiled heritance or advancing yokeda where they dont have the hp bonus. You can run 2x healthy jewelery and you would be at around 17.2k hp with the above setup of gear I mentioned.

Tannus15 · September 2018

@Marshall1289 Yeah, I go by the "17k health or bust!" camp too and you can stick with healthy, but you'll get better results having infused jewelry and swapping out some armour enchants, basically trading max stam for max health instead of weapon damage for max health.

@gamerguy757 vo, hundings and stormfist is really solid for trials. It'll do well. If your dps isn't solid with that setup you're the problem, not the gear. You'll get more from other setups, but there is nothing wrong with the classic VO & hundings.

Another side note, selene is very strong with relequen because rele will proc selene but not so much without it. If you're not using rele then you want either stormfist for some extra sustain or velidreth for a bit more damage.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · September 2018

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

XxCaLxX wrote: »

VO is still and will always be great. Hundings is good enough for anything. Berserkimg warrior is good too. But please know your build as a stamina sorc and don’t listen to meta. As stam sorc is easy to push stamina over 40k and with that leviathan out performs advancing yokeda. If you are using infused jewelry and stacking weapon damage then advancing yokeda is better. Ppl just tend to look at builds and copy them without understanding why that build works better than others but either way all these sets are only going to have a few K difference at most between them.

Berserking warrior has more crit on 5th piece than leviathan, also remember to take into account the 5% from minor brutality buff you are getting from DK's.

AY has 2000 and Leviathan has 1924. A difference of 76. Or .34% crit. I mean you are technically right but the difference is a rounding error. What they probably meant by "outperforms" is that Leviathan is always up at 8.78% crit and AY takes 5 melee hits to get to 9.13% crit. Or that since Leviathan has a max Stam bonus and AY has a weapon damage bonus, Stamsorcs get more out of it, cause of the 8% extra Stam. Probably that one. Personally I run toothrow and AY front bar, cause I am cheap and don't waste money or time on pots.

XxCaLxX · September 2018

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

XxCaLxX wrote: »

VO is still and will always be great. Hundings is good enough for anything. Berserkimg warrior is good too. But please know your build as a stamina sorc and don’t listen to meta. As stam sorc is easy to push stamina over 40k and with that leviathan out performs advancing yokeda. If you are using infused jewelry and stacking weapon damage then advancing yokeda is better. Ppl just tend to look at builds and copy them without understanding why that build works better than others but either way all these sets are only going to have a few K difference at most between them.

Berserking warrior has more crit on 5th piece than leviathan, also remember to take into account the 5% from minor brutality buff you are getting from DK's.

Yes it does have slightly more(1% or less) leviathans is constant while berserkings does carry over. The biggest difference is berserking gives weapon damage and leviathan gives max stamina which goes back to my point on which is better for which build. I’m basing this on multiple tests I’ve done on stamsorc only. The carry over from berserking isn’t that much if any difference at all. Anyone that does a drop dot on bow bar rotation is back on front bar before they start ticking anyway. I grinded for weeks to get gold AY jewelry, dagger and axe because everyone and their mother was looking for it. A few hours to get leviathan. The difference? Leviathan our performs with max stam build and berserking out performs with weapon damage build. So imo that where jewelry trait change comes in. Use what sets best fit your play style. Again I’ve tested like this on stamsorc as I believe it’s easiest to get the most max stam. Also I agree sets like automaton are great. Also another fun but little less dps set is storm master.

Alcast · September 2018

I do have a quite big list of sets that you can use on my buildpage of Stamina sorcerer if you want to check it out.
https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-build-pve/

StamWhipCultist · September 2018

Solo play vMA Id say to go with vicious serpent and briarheart, + velidreth or skoria

GreasyDave · September 2018

This is the thread I was looking for.

I dropped the game at the Morrowind update after the changes gave me a 20 percent dps hit. I recently returned and decided to be casual. HOWever, when I found that all the non BIS armours and weapons I’d hoarded up were suddenly useful I’ve been trying to work out how to take my build a bit more seriously. I only have 561 CP’s.

Coming back my dps is still as *** as it was after Morrowind – worse tbh - about 20k unbuffed on the skelly (I totally accept the low figure is mostly my fingers).

Anyway, I’m not really looking for advice about how to git gud with the rotation. More about how to put the best armour combo together because I actually have a lot of these sets that have been mentioned above. I’ve been reading this thread going, I’ve got that, and that, and that, wow, maybe I can put something together

I don’t have vMA. I don’t have the ravaging or the set from the MOrrowind dungeon. (I don’t have MOrrowind)
But I do have:

full VO divines including a sharp and an infused weapon and bow (only defensive) and gold jewellery
Advancing Yokuda, 3 gold jewellery. 1 heavy guards divines piece, and infused mace.
Leviathan (3 purple jewelry), infused weapon (I think, possibly a bow, three or four pieces of divine body
Full Briars (sharpened weapons though)
And Viper – weapons infused and precise, 3 divines armour (no bow)
Stormfist medium divines shoulder and head. (Also have light shoulder)
Plus all the other heads and shoulders good for stam (apart from veridreth – no DLC)

I’ve been trying to work out what to do with them tbh. From what I’ve read, I’ve been clearly thinking about it from the wrong direction – I’m EU so haven’t had a chance to get on PTS but using my gold VO as the base set and purple weapons, I tried various combo’s of the above with VO (so the actual base weapons would always be the same).

Red Guard. Mundus Lover and put CP’s into penetration to get 8 k (I think, I have to check, it might only be 6 k right now – but I will push it up to 9k). Only just returned so I’ve got no crystals for transmutations

VO and Viper was giving me 2-3k more than Advancing Yokuda and Leviathan. Briarheart was 2 k behind them. I was thinking of golding up the Viper and using that as my general kit for now. But now reading the thread I realise that I’ve not been considering Yokuda or Leviathan from the point of view of crit surge and healing -or the possibility of using the Yokuda jewelry to get my health to 17k and put stam charms everywhere else. (I had been thinking I’d need to save transmute crystals and weapon damage them)

It could be that Viper will get me more damage anyhow because my finger skills are poor and the dot is more effective than the higher crit rate?

Also one of the above posters mentioning getting 80-90 percent crit rate with Leviathan or Advancing? How is that done? With a Khajit? I think I was only at 68 percent with Leviathan?

From what I’ve read above, all the combo’s have positives. But what would you more experienced guys recommend to someone who’s CP’s are now 200 behind the max and is looking to be able to not embarrass himself in vet hm’s and pull his dps up to something less than ***?
cheers

Danksta · September 2018

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Reliquin and berserking warrior I believe are the meta

From what I'm seeing, would Relequen be good for VMA? it seems like the wind proc wouldn't be good for solo play?

For vMA run VO/Night Mother's Gaze/Slimecraw or Velidreth.

XxCaLxX · September 2018

GreasyDave wrote: »

This is the thread I was looking for.

I dropped the game at the Morrowind update after the changes gave me a 20 percent dps hit. I recently returned and decided to be casual. HOWever, when I found that all the non BIS armours and weapons I’d hoarded up were suddenly useful I’ve been trying to work out how to take my build a bit more seriously. I only have 561 CP’s.

Coming back my dps is still as *** as it was after Morrowind – worse tbh - about 20k unbuffed on the skelly (I totally accept the low figure is mostly my fingers).

Anyway, I’m not really looking for advice about how to git gud with the rotation. More about how to put the best armour combo together because I actually have a lot of these sets that have been mentioned above. I’ve been reading this thread going, I’ve got that, and that, and that, wow, maybe I can put something together

I don’t have vMA. I don’t have the ravaging or the set from the MOrrowind dungeon. (I don’t have MOrrowind)
But I do have:

full VO divines including a sharp and an infused weapon and bow (only defensive) and gold jewellery
Advancing Yokuda, 3 gold jewellery. 1 heavy guards divines piece, and infused mace.
Leviathan (3 purple jewelry), infused weapon (I think, possibly a bow, three or four pieces of divine body
Full Briars (sharpened weapons though)
And Viper – weapons infused and precise, 3 divines armour (no bow)
Stormfist medium divines shoulder and head. (Also have light shoulder)
Plus all the other heads and shoulders good for stam (apart from veridreth – no DLC)

I’ve been trying to work out what to do with them tbh. From what I’ve read, I’ve been clearly thinking about it from the wrong direction – I’m EU so haven’t had a chance to get on PTS but using my gold VO as the base set and purple weapons, I tried various combo’s of the above with VO (so the actual base weapons would always be the same).

Red Guard. Mundus Lover and put CP’s into penetration to get 8 k (I think, I have to check, it might only be 6 k right now – but I will push it up to 9k). Only just returned so I’ve got no crystals for transmutations

VO and Viper was giving me 2-3k more than Advancing Yokuda and Leviathan. Briarheart was 2 k behind them. I was thinking of golding up the Viper and using that as my general kit for now. But now reading the thread I realise that I’ve not been considering Yokuda or Leviathan from the point of view of crit surge and healing -or the possibility of using the Yokuda jewelry to get my health to 17k and put stam charms everywhere else. (I had been thinking I’d need to save transmute crystals and weapon damage them)

It could be that Viper will get me more damage anyhow because my finger skills are poor and the dot is more effective than the higher crit rate?

Also one of the above posters mentioning getting 80-90 percent crit rate with Leviathan or Advancing? How is that done? With a Khajit? I think I was only at 68 percent with Leviathan?

From what I’ve read above, all the combo’s have positives. But what would you more experienced guys recommend to someone who’s CP’s are now 200 behind the max and is looking to be able to not embarrass himself in vet hm’s and pull his dps up to something less than ***?
cheers

Sounds like you’re on the right track. Testing multiple sets is the best route to finding what works for you. My best advice is gold your weapons. It’s the most important thing to upgrade. Another is try to get dagger + axe as dual wield or dagger + dagger. Running VO weapons and jewelry is very good. The other sets you mentioned are good as well although viper shouldn’t be pulling better than those others. Sounds to me like biggest issue is what you were saying, your fingers. Rotation is key in every scenario. It’s what separates dps. So find a rotation that fits your style and practice the hell out of it.

Edit: Also doing solo parses with my stamsorc with VO I average around 35k dps. With war machine around 37k and with relequen my top is 41.5k. Relequen is really strong and easy to get and manage.

Sparr0w · September 2018

GreasyDave wrote: »

This is the thread I was looking for.

I dropped the game at the Morrowind update after the changes gave me a 20 percent dps hit. I recently returned and decided to be casual. HOWever, when I found that all the non BIS armours and weapons I’d hoarded up were suddenly useful I’ve been trying to work out how to take my build a bit more seriously. I only have 561 CP’s.

Coming back my dps is still as *** as it was after Morrowind – worse tbh - about 20k unbuffed on the skelly (I totally accept the low figure is mostly my fingers).

Anyway, I’m not really looking for advice about how to git gud with the rotation. More about how to put the best armour combo together because I actually have a lot of these sets that have been mentioned above. I’ve been reading this thread going, I’ve got that, and that, and that, wow, maybe I can put something together

I don’t have vMA. I don’t have the ravaging or the set from the MOrrowind dungeon. (I don’t have MOrrowind)
But I do have:

full VO divines including a sharp and an infused weapon and bow (only defensive) and gold jewellery
Advancing Yokuda, 3 gold jewellery. 1 heavy guards divines piece, and infused mace.
Leviathan (3 purple jewelry), infused weapon (I think, possibly a bow, three or four pieces of divine body
Full Briars (sharpened weapons though)
And Viper – weapons infused and precise, 3 divines armour (no bow)
Stormfist medium divines shoulder and head. (Also have light shoulder)
Plus all the other heads and shoulders good for stam (apart from veridreth – no DLC)

I’ve been trying to work out what to do with them tbh. From what I’ve read, I’ve been clearly thinking about it from the wrong direction – I’m EU so haven’t had a chance to get on PTS but using my gold VO as the base set and purple weapons, I tried various combo’s of the above with VO (so the actual base weapons would always be the same).

Red Guard. Mundus Lover and put CP’s into penetration to get 8 k (I think, I have to check, it might only be 6 k right now – but I will push it up to 9k). Only just returned so I’ve got no crystals for transmutations

VO and Viper was giving me 2-3k more than Advancing Yokuda and Leviathan. Briarheart was 2 k behind them. I was thinking of golding up the Viper and using that as my general kit for now. But now reading the thread I realise that I’ve not been considering Yokuda or Leviathan from the point of view of crit surge and healing -or the possibility of using the Yokuda jewelry to get my health to 17k and put stam charms everywhere else. (I had been thinking I’d need to save transmute crystals and weapon damage them)

It could be that Viper will get me more damage anyhow because my finger skills are poor and the dot is more effective than the higher crit rate?

Also one of the above posters mentioning getting 80-90 percent crit rate with Leviathan or Advancing? How is that done? With a Khajit? I think I was only at 68 percent with Leviathan?

From what I’ve read above, all the combo’s have positives. But what would you more experienced guys recommend to someone who’s CP’s are now 200 behind the max and is looking to be able to not embarrass himself in vet hm’s and pull his dps up to something less than ***?
cheers

Personally I'd pair Briarheart/VO with Advancing & Stormfist, go 7 medium or 6 medium 1 heavy. Try to farm Relequen (if you get the DLC) and pair that with Selenes.

Aim for 7k penetration, any more and you'll be sacrificing too much elsewhere (Don't forget the tank should debuff 10k~ anyway).

Definitely gold your weapons, they're the main source of damage, I pull 40-50k depending on the class with only the weapons golded (purple everything else).

I find it easiest to time from Poison Injection (since that shows as a dubuff on the enemy, so is a lot easier for console to track).

Definitely check out Alcasthq.com tho for build info & parses. Probably the best place to start.

Alex_Lex · September 2018

What about Agility set? Very big stamina and damage bonus. Can it be any good?

LiquidPony · September 2018

I main a stamsorc in raid ...

5 x Relequen (body), 5 x Ravager (jewelry + DW weapons), 2 x Selene, 1 x Maelstrom bow

All Divines armor with Stamina glyphs.

7 medium.

Mix of Infused/Bloodthirsty jewelry with Weapon Damage glyphs (I do 1 x Infused, 2 x Bloodthirsty ... but any combo works).

Nirnhoned mainhand with Absorb Stamina (or Disease) glyph, Infused offhand with Weapon Damage glyph, Infused bow with Poison glyph. Axe/dagger or dagger/dagger.

Lover Mundus.

Artaeum Takeaway Broth.

You can get similar results with Advancing Yokeda or Automaton, but I like Ravager because the health bonus allows me to run 7 medium and Artaeum Takeaway Broth/Dubious and a full light attack rotation. With Advancing or Automaton, you want to run a health glyph on a big piece and 1 piece of heavy armor. Or alternatively switch to a heavy attack rotation and use bi-stat food (not recommended as it is a DPS loss). Some people recommend Veiled Heritance as an alternative, but I think it sucks. The 3-piece bonus is useless and because the proc is so short the uptime in practice is often not nearly as high as you'd think it would be on paper (i.e., if it procs halfway through your DW bar rotation, it'll run out early on your backbar and be down for several seconds). One caveat: Advancing Yokeda will have an advantage in Daedric fights (where Prismatic glyphs are viable) because enchant procs can crit.

I personally see no need to reach 17k+ health solo. With Ebon and Warhorn you'll have plenty of health with this setup, especially because stamsorcs have excellent survivability to begin with.

Relequen is must-have for all stamina DPS right now in group content. The 5-piece alone will do 5k+ DPS in a solo parse and much more than that in-raid. It's easy to farm in nCR.

MashmalloMan · September 2018

Alex_Lex wrote: »

What about Agility set? Very big stamina and damage bonus. Can it be any good?

It's stronger to have a 5-5-2 setup right now which works from dw/bow/2h now. Only reason to use that 3pc is if your using an ability altering weapon front bar.

Maybe 5-3-2-2 setup but it just seems weak until ability altering weapons get a buff like a 1pc stat bonus which looks like it's on the way with murkmire's dlc.

MashmalloMan · September 2018

@LiquidPony Good point about veiled heritance, It's why I dropped it as I didn't find the 3pc very useful in comparison to ravager. I understand your point about the procing in the middle of your rotation but in practice, I almost never dropped below 90% uptime. On average it was 93-95%. It's actually a pretty good set for a bow/bow build so that's where I've moved that to on an alt.

I really like stormfist for aesthetics and class theme, but for max dps if you have group support Dubious Cameron Throne/Artaeum Takeaway Broth will be enough to help with sustain so switching in selene's is a good increase to single target dps if your using relequen. Here's to praying they never change that set to not count as "melee dmg".

Personally I'm running 6 med 1 heavy with dubious, ravager and no investment in to hp on set pieces, 1x infused 2x bloodthirsty - I sit at 16.3k hp, ebon places it at just about 17.9k if I remember correctly. Currently using Storm Atro for my ult which gives 8% hp and a synergy for the group which makes the lower hp even less important when the ult is available for 28 seconds of a fight.

Might try 7 medium tbh.