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what is wrong with me? 12.5k focused aim

Avnr
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Then Ambush Incap 12.5k also …. dead in 1.3 sec , break free takes longer

I feel like paper man , lost confident

26k hp , 3k crit resist , 28k resist unbuffed stamina templar
  • Vapirko
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    Nothing wrong with with you. Snipe lags the game and delays break free, been a bug for a long time, lots of people exploit it ZOS won’t or can’t fix it. They’re both very hard hitting skills.
  • Asmael
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    That's a mega ganker, one which has a proper ganking build. You shouldn't even try to make a build to survive those, because your defensive stats are already good enough.

    I had a similar gank on me yesterday which dropped me from 26k to about 1k in less than a second, the only way to survive is to break free, use a burst heal and dodge roll 2-3 times in a row. They are little threat once you get back up, but you have very little reaction time to survive.

    Check for yourself, if there are 2 of them, 50k HP will not be enough:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cws_8a4sUMU
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  • susmitds
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    You can't save yourself. My gankblade main opening combo hit for 20k+ on the average heavy armor enemy with max crit resist. Either my Veli proc or Poison Injection or Axe Bleed or Ravage Health poison will kill you. Breaking free wont really help you, as my Stam-drain poisons, will leave you with no stamina pretty fast. At that point, you are pretty much a sitting duck. Only times, it will fails, is if your allies counter gank me or if you have cc immunity, then I am a goner.
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    You are not going to survive everything in the game. Try to focus on the dozens of times where you don't, where you survive everything someone else is throwing at you.
  • Crixus8000
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    Yeah snipe just hits stupidly hard on damage chars and has bugs so 3 snipes can hit you in 1 second. I have 24k hp and 30k resists in no cp yet can be killed in 1 second by a snipe build with 0 counterplay since the first hit kills me as in 3 snipes hitting around 12k each.
  • HidesFromSun
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    A tip i learned that you may or may not be doing, is to use vigor as a buff and always have it up. Dont just use it when you need to heal, but have it up all the time.

    Either way though, don't worry about getting ganked in Cyrodiil, it happens to everyone :smile:
  • Priyasekarssk
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    Avnr wrote: »
    Then Ambush Incap 12.5k also …. dead in 1.3 sec , break free takes longer

    I feel like paper man , lost confident

    26k hp , 3k crit resist , 28k resist unbuffed stamina templar

    26k hp , 3k crit resist , 28k resist unbuffed stamina templar -> If you really know how to make this build , you are not a bad player.

    Just read my broken nb build in the forum. Many people come here and vomit some nonsense with L2P. Don't worry. You cannot do anything.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/434375/stam-nb-ganker-build-i-define-ultimate-killing-machine#latest

    Just replace one or 2 Fighter guilds skills with a spammable NB skill if needed. You barely stand a chance against with 7-8k weapon damage builds with 50 percent crit and 1 guaranteed crit. Noob streamers need these type of builds. So it wont be nerfed. Instead anything that challenges NB will be nerfed. Both Magicka and Stamina NBs are completely broken. Magicka NB is broken even further. This is example of how a class should be according to ZOS class representatives. Bravos
    Edited by Priyasekarssk on September 10, 2018 6:04PM
  • Chrlynsch
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    Turn up your volume, you can hear snipes incoming. If you are in an open world situation you should be able to dodge before they land.
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  • Gilvoth
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with with you. Snipe lags the game and delays break free, been a bug for a long time, lots of people exploit it ZOS won’t or can’t fix it. They’re both very hard hitting skills.

    this ^
    all truth.
  • Priyasekarssk
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with with you. Snipe lags the game and delays break free, been a bug for a long time, lots of people exploit it ZOS won’t or can’t fix it. They’re both very hard hitting skills.

    this ^
    all truth.

    What lag has to do for single 12.5k focused aim ?
  • Elsterchen
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    Shuffle is your friend, keep it up at all times... and enjoy a 15% chance of survival. ;)

    Also, if you like to have fun in the sewers... seek out the corners. Amazingly many NBs think they are still cloaked from sight when you step on them (No, you are not invisble at this point, and the only reason it still takes 1-2 s before I attack is bc I like to buff up before attacking) :D
  • Priyasekarssk
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    Elsterchen wrote: »
    Shuffle is your friend, keep it up at all times... and enjoy a 15% chance of survival. ;)

    Also, if you like to have fun in the sewers... seek out the corners. Amazingly many NBs think they are still cloaked from sight when you step on them (No, you are not invisble at this point, and the only reason it still takes 1-2 s before I attack is bc I like to buff up before attacking) :D

    enjoy a 15% chance of survival. ;) lol
  • usmguy1234
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with with you. Snipe lags the game and delays break free, been a bug for a long time, lots of people exploit it ZOS won’t or can’t fix it. They’re both very hard hitting skills.

    this ^
    all truth.

    What lag has to do for single 12.5k focused aim ?


    You only see the last few attacks on your death recap. Let's be honest who just uses one snipe? Unless the target gets Los or moves out of range. There are so many wall monkeys during siege now it's ridiculous.
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  • SilverWF
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    Another "OMG, nerf Snipe!!!11111" thread...
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  • Mazbt
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    I've had sniper duos lag my game and I come back dead. 100 to zero. This even happens on my tankier specs too. Punish them with a big snipe damage nerf. All morphs.
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  • Solariken
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    Mazbt wrote: »
    I've had sniper duos lag my game and I come back dead. 100 to zero. This even happens on my tankier specs too. Punish them with a big snipe damage nerf. All morphs.

    No Snipe itself is actually a perfectly balanced skill. The problem lies with Cloak and/or stealth - those mechanics are what need a hefty nerf spank.
  • Hutch679
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    Avnr wrote: »
    Then Ambush Incap 12.5k also …. dead in 1.3 sec , break free takes longer

    I feel like paper man , lost confident

    26k hp , 3k crit resist , 28k resist unbuffed stamina templar

    26k hp , 3k crit resist , 28k resist unbuffed stamina templar -> If you really know how to make this build , you are not a bad player.

    Just read my broken nb build in the forum. Many people come here and vomit some nonsense with L2P. Don't worry. You cannot do anything.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/434375/stam-nb-ganker-build-i-define-ultimate-killing-machine#latest

    Just replace one or 2 Fighter guilds skills with a spammable NB skill. You barely stand a chance against with 7-8k weapon damage builds with 50 percent crit and 1 guaranteed crit. Noob streamers need these type of builds. So it wont be nerfed. Instead anything that challenges NB will be nerfed. Both Magicka and Stamina NBs are completely broken. Magicka NB is broken even further. This is example of how a class should be according to ZOS class representatives. Bravos

    Dont read this guys builds. You'll wanna bash your head through a wall. "I define tryhard".
  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Snipe is a skill that should be deleted from the game until the devs figure a way to fix it
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  • Mister_DMC
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    Snipe hits too hard for the range it has, I'd be ok if it gave you the taking aim animation on you like in PvE so you could Dodge it.
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    1st. As previous people mentioned, turn up the volume
    2nd if you have problems with snipers, and use tactician passive + stamsorc with defensive rune. Those 2 things work miracles against such people
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Sometimes the game lags, other times there are small subtle que's that can save you. Make sure you have debuff tracker up, if you see defile pop and you haven't taken damage DODGE roll immediately and find LOS. For subtle sound que watch this short video:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uu2qFelAKY
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  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Sometimes the game lags, other times there are small subtle que's that can save you. Make sure you have debuff tracker up, if you see defile pop and you haven't taken damage DODGE roll immediately and find LOS. For subtle sound que watch this short video:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uu2qFelAKY

    Problem is the sound doesnt work often enough and you just drop dead without warning and thus snipe has 0 counterplay
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  • revonine
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    12K snipes I can live with. Getting hit by three 9K snipes instantly by the same person I cannot. (this happened earlier, one of many examples of that buggy as hell skill)

    People getting kills with snipe are getting kills they often do not deserve.
    Edited by revonine on September 10, 2018 12:07PM
  • Crixus8000
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    revonine wrote: »
    12K snipes I can live with. Getting hit by three 9K snipes instantly by the same person I cannot. (this happened earlier, one of many examples of that buggy as hell skill)

    People getting kills with snipe are getting kills they often do not deserve.

    I agree, although I still don't think 12k snipes are balanced since the hardest I have ever been hit by dizzy swing is under 7k and that's also a channeled skill and melee. Snipe as a ranged skill that has less risk in group play shouldn't hit that hard imo.

    But yeah it's the bugs that come with it that make it so annoying to fight against. A few times now I have been in a fight at full hp then instantly dead, looked at recap to show multiple snipes from the same player yet they all hit in exactly the same time and made no sound, so it was impossible to counter.

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    Crixus8000 wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    12K snipes I can live with. Getting hit by three 9K snipes instantly by the same person I cannot. (this happened earlier, one of many examples of that buggy as hell skill)

    People getting kills with snipe are getting kills they often do not deserve.

    I agree, although I still don't think 12k snipes are balanced since the hardest I have ever been hit by dizzy swing is under 7k and that's also a channeled skill and melee. Snipe as a ranged skill that has less risk in group play shouldn't hit that hard imo.

    But yeah it's the bugs that come with it that make it so annoying to fight against. A few times now I have been in a fight at full hp then instantly dead, looked at recap to show multiple snipes from the same player yet they all hit in exactly the same time and made no sound, so it was impossible to counter.

    I have a 14k Snipe build. Same build can hit 20k Dizzying Swing. Just at melee range, playing that kind of Glass cannon is like asking to die.
  • Priyasekarssk
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Crixus8000 wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    12K snipes I can live with. Getting hit by three 9K snipes instantly by the same person I cannot. (this happened earlier, one of many examples of that buggy as hell skill)

    People getting kills with snipe are getting kills they often do not deserve.

    I agree, although I still don't think 12k snipes are balanced since the hardest I have ever been hit by dizzy swing is under 7k and that's also a channeled skill and melee. Snipe as a ranged skill that has less risk in group play shouldn't hit that hard imo.

    But yeah it's the bugs that come with it that make it so annoying to fight against. A few times now I have been in a fight at full hp then instantly dead, looked at recap to show multiple snipes from the same player yet they all hit in exactly the same time and made no sound, so it was impossible to counter.

    I have a 14k Snipe build. Same build can hit 20k Dizzying Swing. Just at melee range, playing that kind of Glass cannon is like asking to die.

    Nope. With NB its pretty much possible.

    Snipe is pretty much possible especially NB with sneak bonus.. Melee not possible, except invisible melee NB . Especially when NB has cloak & shadow to teleport.
    Edited by Priyasekarssk on September 10, 2018 3:39PM
  • Apache_Kid
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    Trying to pretend that the audio ques for snipe are not broken is ridiculous. The skill would be fine if it operated properly.
  • Theignson
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    `I used to run my stam DK at 26k hp but found it a little squishy. Now I run 30k and it seems just out of reach for most cloaked ,distance gank builds to take out. You can add some more hp and survive a few more gank encounters.

    However, you said you were killed by incap. That means it was one of those gankers who get you off your horse by the arrow, then rush in with their OP incap (stun, major defile, damage, empower) and finish you off with melee. Incap is from only 5m away so it had to be an arrow melee combo.

    Of course with a 12k+ hit from cloak plus the above, the fight is over before it even starts== nothing even remotely resembling a fair fight. But who said ESO was fair?
    Edited by Theignson on September 10, 2018 5:38PM
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  • Irylia
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    Avnr wrote: »
    Then Ambush Incap 12.5k also …. dead in 1.3 sec , break free takes longer

    I feel like paper man , lost confident

    26k hp , 3k crit resist , 28k resist unbuffed stamina templar

    Lmao my gank alt-f4’d this man off eso and onto the forums.
    You asked me how I hit a 12.5k snipe and I said snipe just hits that hard. Sewer gank otw to center.

    Some of my hard hitting ganks.
    https://youtu.be/g7DHQ10x9PM
    Edited by Irylia on September 11, 2018 6:25PM
  • Minno
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    Irylia wrote: »
    Avnr wrote: »
    Then Ambush Incap 12.5k also …. dead in 1.3 sec , break free takes longer

    I feel like paper man , lost confident

    26k hp , 3k crit resist , 28k resist unbuffed stamina templar

    Lmao my gank alt-f4’d this man off eso and onto the forums.
    You asked me how I hit a 12.5k snipe and I said snipe just hits that hard. Sewer gank otw to center.

    https://youtu.be/g7DHQ10x9PM

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