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Banker and Merchant assistant cost too much - READ the OP before you comment

  • shaielzafine
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    IMO they're priced ok. I bought both of them a long time ago and they have made trials, dungeons & other pve runs super convenient. If I hop in and out on my other characters to do writs or to swap gear it's easy and I can place both in my houses. Other people can use them if I plop them down in housing and in group. If I had to port to a city with a banker and deal with even more of the stupid loading screens in this game each time, I'd just not play any pve content when my bags are full.
  • Drakoleon
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    5k crowns=~38 Eur /$ ...ESO standard edition game title =20Eur/$ !!!!
    Banker + Merchant =10k crowns= ~70 Eur/$ ...ESO collection(all major updates and DLC's)=80 Eur/$ ....."priced..ok", "fair price" WTF are you talking about? what kind of logic is that????
    Also Banker don't offer guild trading and Merchants don't do repairs....

    For me those 5k make sense only if you pay them by collecting eso+ 1.5k

  • stitchesofdooom
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    Now please go to a Gucci boutique and tell them you ain't gonna pay that skirt 700€ but you would gladly get them 29.99€ for it.
    Wth is a Gucci boutique.. and why would anyone pay 700 for any clothes..
    All they have to do is add skins to them like the warden bear..

    Luxury is a status symbol. It is meant to show people they belong to an upper class than the one you belong to.
    The banker and merchant in-game are luxury. They are not needed to play the game at all.

    If you can't afford them, stop crying.

    Snobbery? Really? shame on you.

    if they're any kind of symbol of anything it's that you have more money than sense... even if you don't have all that much money.
    Edited by stitchesofdooom on September 6, 2018 3:22PM
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
    PCMR EU.
  • stitchesofdooom
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    Drakoleon wrote: »
    5k crowns=~38 Eur /$ ...ESO standard edition game title =20Eur/$ !!!!
    Banker + Merchant =10k crowns= ~70 Eur/$ ...ESO collection(all major updates and DLC's)=80 Eur/$ ....."priced..ok", "fair price" WTF are you talking about? what kind of logic is that????
    Also Banker don't offer guild trading and Merchants don't do repairs....

    For me those 5k make sense only if you pay them by collecting eso+ 1.5k

    finally, some damned logic.
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
    PCMR EU.
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    Watchdog wrote: »
    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    I still think it's better to spend 5 minutes to go to town, sell, repair, bank etc. then go back. Without the basic repair function, the merchant is fair useless since there are (as I was informed earlier, and have since found for myself) merchants all over the roads.

    As for spending gold for repairs? It's fast. And I have plenty of gold. If I'm out of Crown Repair kits on someone, it usually doesn't cost all that much in gold to get it done fast.

    I think the largest repair bill I've had so far was ITN 50 gold. *shrug*

    Well, there are no merchants inside delves and dungeons.

    I bought both assistants and it was one of the best quality of life improvement in ESO for me.

    there is one inside Blackheart haven,but I think that is the exception.All trials have them as well.
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    Now please go to a Gucci boutique and tell them you ain't gonna pay that skirt 700€ but you would gladly get them 29.99€ for it.
    Wth is a Gucci boutique.. and why would anyone pay 700 for any clothes..
    All they have to do is add skins to them like the warden bear..

    Luxury is a status symbol. It is meant to show people they belong to an upper class than the one you belong to.
    The banker and merchant in-game are luxury. They are not needed to play the game at all.

    If you can't afford them, stop crying.

    Snobbery? Really? shame on you.

    if they're any kind of symbol of anything it's that you have more money than sense... even if you don't have all that much money.

    Yeah, more a symbol of corporate greed.
  • Valrien
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    smacky wrote: »
    You people do realise you get 1500 crowns per month with ESO+, and you can use those crowns to buy them?

    if you're happy to waste your money on ESO Plus month after month after month. I buy ESO Plus when I need Crowns for DLC.

    ESO+ is probably the highest value item that you can buy with money short of the game itself.

    The crowns alone pay for it.
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • stitchesofdooom
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    Valrien wrote: »
    smacky wrote: »
    You people do realise you get 1500 crowns per month with ESO+, and you can use those crowns to buy them?

    if you're happy to waste your money on ESO Plus month after month after month. I buy ESO Plus when I need Crowns for DLC.

    ESO+ is probably the highest value item that you can buy with money short of the game itself.

    The crowns alone pay for it.

    are you serious??

    small exp boost, small gold boost, craft bag, crowns. Once you have enough crowns for the DLC you want, spending money on ESO+ is all about the craft bag and getting cosmetic items and homes you could just as easily bought with gold.

    Do you not remember the days when, when you paid for a whole game, you got the whole game for that money and you were done paying for the game?
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
    PCMR EU.
  • Universe
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    Both Merchant and banker are incredibly useful.
    Anywhere you are it is possible to sell your goods and access your personal bank(except for a few places, like Cyrodiil).
    It is very good if you're far away from towns and need to change sets or withdrew important item/s, sell items or deposit to the bank to ease your burden etc.

    I have both assistants and I find their price tags cheap.
    If I were to price them, I would have set the price to 7500-10000 crowns each :)
    Only downside is that the merchant can't repair and the banker doesn't have guild store and guild bank access.
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom If you plan to add additional functionalities to the merchant and the banker in the future, I suggest the following:
    1) If the player already bought the assistants, there will be special tokens which will cost 2500 crowns each.
    This token will upgrade an assistant to have full functionality, like merchant can repair items.
    2) If the player didn't buy the assistants, he will have to pay full price of 7500 crowns in order to have an assistant.
    3) Only full functionality assistants will be available for direct purchase. The assistants with less functionality will retire from the crown store.
    Edited by Universe on September 7, 2018 12:47PM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • Valrien
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    Valrien wrote: »
    smacky wrote: »
    You people do realise you get 1500 crowns per month with ESO+, and you can use those crowns to buy them?

    if you're happy to waste your money on ESO Plus month after month after month. I buy ESO Plus when I need Crowns for DLC.

    ESO+ is probably the highest value item that you can buy with money short of the game itself.

    The crowns alone pay for it.

    are you serious??

    small exp boost, small gold boost, craft bag, crowns. Once you have enough crowns for the DLC you want, spending money on ESO+ is all about the craft bag and getting cosmetic items and homes you could just as easily bought with gold.

    Do you not remember the days when, when you paid for a whole game, you got the whole game for that money and you were done paying for the game?

    Yes, and MMOs are different. Most MMOs early on required a sub. The biggest one around today still does. And sometimes I still wish ESO does because at least you would know that everyone gave a crap about the game.

    The sub pays for itself in crowns. If it didn't give crowns then the craft bag alone is worth it. Either way, there's no point in not paying for a sub unless you absolutely cannot afford it.

    Not to mention you say ESO+ is pointless, yet you say you pay for it to buy DLC. But the thing is ESO+ is even a better value with the DLC because you don't HAVE to buy it. You can pay $15/month and gain access to every DLC, do it to your heart's content for that period, and then cancel.

    I actually don't believe there is any point when buying DLC > ESO+

    And no one has especially presented a good argument for it otherwise.

    Either way though I do wish ESO kept its sub fee. They removed it with Tamriel Unlimited as if the subs and soft caps were the true problem, but in reality it was the fact that they hadn't made new content in almost a year.

    "Hey guys, we're not doing so hot..."

    "Remove soft caps and sub fee!"

    "Crown Store!"

    "...how about we just make some new content so that people don't stop subscribing?" *gets thrown out of window*

    Sorry, I'm not able to make memes right now but if someone could meme this for me that would be appreciated. But you guys know the meme and talking about :p
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • Valrien
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    Universe wrote: »
    Both Merchant and banker are incredibly useful.
    Anywhere you are it is possible to sell your goods and access your personal bank(except for a few places, like Cyrodiil).
    It is very good if you're far away from towns and need to change sets or withdrew important item/s, sell items or deposit to the bank to ease your burden etc.

    I have both assistants and I find their price tags cheap.
    If I were to price them, I would have set the price to 7500-10000 crowns each :)
    Only downside is that the merchant can't repair and the banker doesn't have guild store and guild bank access.
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom If you plan to add additional functionalities to the merchant and the banker in the future, I suggest the following:
    1) If the player already bought the assistants, there will be special tokens which will cost 2500 crowns each.
    This token will upgrade an assistant to have full functionality, like merchant can repair items.
    2) If the player didn't buy the assistants, he will have to pay full price of 7500 crowns in order to have an assistant.
    3) Only full functionality assistants will be available for direct purchase. The assistants with less functionality will retire from the crown store.

    This is pretty scummy if I'm being quite honest
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • Universe
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Both Merchant and banker are incredibly useful.
    Anywhere you are it is possible to sell your goods and access your personal bank(except for a few places, like Cyrodiil).
    It is very good if you're far away from towns and need to change sets or withdrew important item/s, sell items or deposit to the bank to ease your burden etc.

    I have both assistants and I find their price tags cheap.
    If I were to price them, I would have set the price to 7500-10000 crowns each :)
    Only downside is that the merchant can't repair and the banker doesn't have guild store and guild bank access.
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom If you plan to add additional functionalities to the merchant and the banker in the future, I suggest the following:
    1) If the player already bought the assistants, there will be special tokens which will cost 2500 crowns each.
    This token will upgrade an assistant to have full functionality, like merchant can repair items.
    2) If the player didn't buy the assistants, he will have to pay full price of 7500 crowns in order to have an assistant.
    3) Only full functionality assistants will be available for direct purchase. The assistants with less functionality will retire from the crown store.

    This is pretty scummy if I'm being quite honest

    Nothing is really free :)
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • Valrien
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    Universe wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Both Merchant and banker are incredibly useful.
    Anywhere you are it is possible to sell your goods and access your personal bank(except for a few places, like Cyrodiil).
    It is very good if you're far away from towns and need to change sets or withdrew important item/s, sell items or deposit to the bank to ease your burden etc.

    I have both assistants and I find their price tags cheap.
    If I were to price them, I would have set the price to 7500-10000 crowns each :)
    Only downside is that the merchant can't repair and the banker doesn't have guild store and guild bank access.
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom If you plan to add additional functionalities to the merchant and the banker in the future, I suggest the following:
    1) If the player already bought the assistants, there will be special tokens which will cost 2500 crowns each.
    This token will upgrade an assistant to have full functionality, like merchant can repair items.
    2) If the player didn't buy the assistants, he will have to pay full price of 7500 crowns in order to have an assistant.
    3) Only full functionality assistants will be available for direct purchase. The assistants with less functionality will retire from the crown store.

    This is pretty scummy if I'm being quite honest

    Nothing is really free :)

    Oh no, not the added functionality.

    Your suggestion of removing current assistants from the crown store.

    I never expected a consumer to suggest such predatory, anti-consumer practices.
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    Drakoleon wrote: »
    5k crowns=~38 Eur /$ ...ESO standard edition game title =20Eur/$ !!!!
    Banker + Merchant =10k crowns= ~70 Eur/$ ...ESO collection(all major updates and DLC's)=80 Eur/$ ....."priced..ok", "fair price" WTF are you talking about? what kind of logic is that????
    Also Banker don't offer guild trading and Merchants don't do repairs....

    For me those 5k make sense only if you pay them by collecting eso+ 1.5k

    finally, some damned logic.
    It's not a required item. It's a convenience item. You're paying for time saved, or the convenience.

    Factor in how much use you'll get out of it, vs what your time is worth. Then decide to buy, or not to buy.

    I've the merchant, but not the banker. I run across far more stuff I don't want to keep than I run across stuff I need to get from or put in my usually close-to-full bank.

    It's no different than buying a gallon of milk from your corner store, vs driving 10 miles to get it cheaper.

    Which one is worth more to you, in the grand scheme of things?

    Then, of course, there is also option three: Eat your cereal dry.

    They're not going to lower the cost, ever because they do so indirectly via crown sales (they want you to buy things) and they know people will choose to pay or not. (they want you to buy things.)

    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

    IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.
    I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
    Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS
  • Universe
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Both Merchant and banker are incredibly useful.
    Anywhere you are it is possible to sell your goods and access your personal bank(except for a few places, like Cyrodiil).
    It is very good if you're far away from towns and need to change sets or withdrew important item/s, sell items or deposit to the bank to ease your burden etc.

    I have both assistants and I find their price tags cheap.
    If I were to price them, I would have set the price to 7500-10000 crowns each :)
    Only downside is that the merchant can't repair and the banker doesn't have guild store and guild bank access.
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom If you plan to add additional functionalities to the merchant and the banker in the future, I suggest the following:
    1) If the player already bought the assistants, there will be special tokens which will cost 2500 crowns each.
    This token will upgrade an assistant to have full functionality, like merchant can repair items.
    2) If the player didn't buy the assistants, he will have to pay full price of 7500 crowns in order to have an assistant.
    3) Only full functionality assistants will be available for direct purchase. The assistants with less functionality will retire from the crown store.

    This is pretty scummy if I'm being quite honest

    Nothing is really free :)

    Oh no, not the added functionality.

    Your suggestion of removing current assistants from the crown store.

    I never expected a consumer to suggest such predatory, anti-consumer practices.

    Well, if you leave current assistants, less people will buy the full functionality ones.
    The addition of new assistants should be a good investment for ZOS so removing the old assistants will result in more higher end purchases :)
    My suggestion increases the chance that additional functionality will be added.
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • ThePlayer
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    The price is too high, something less would be appropriate, when these discounts? never seen for the merchant and the banker.
    Just that we're on the subject, 5k for 1 mundus stone ???
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    ThePlayer wrote: »
    The price is too high, something less would be appropriate, when these discounts? never seen for the merchant and the banker.
    Just that we're on the subject, 5k for 1 mundus stone ???
    The discounts are in the form of crown sales, they are not directly discounted (nor will they ever be.)

    Just like the assistants, mundus stones are convenience items. It's another one of those things with a specific target audience, one that will be willing to pay that cost. There is no on-the-fence demographic for either item.

    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

    IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.
    I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
    Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS
  • xan4silkb14_ESO
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    Valrien wrote: »
    smacky wrote: »
    You people do realise you get 1500 crowns per month with ESO+, and you can use those crowns to buy them?

    if you're happy to waste your money on ESO Plus month after month after month. I buy ESO Plus when I need Crowns for DLC.

    ESO+ is probably the highest value item that you can buy with money short of the game itself.

    The crowns alone pay for it.

    are you serious??

    small exp boost, small gold boost, craft bag, crowns. Once you have enough crowns for the DLC you want, spending money on ESO+ is all about the craft bag and getting cosmetic items and homes you could just as easily bought with gold.

    Do you not remember the days when, when you paid for a whole game, you got the whole game for that money and you were done paying for the game?

    Do you not remember the days when you paid for a whole game, you got a whole game that was not connected to the internet to play with other people and you were done paying for the game and the "updates" to the game was a new game you paid for again and had to start over from the beginning?
  • Valrien
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    Universe wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Both Merchant and banker are incredibly useful.
    Anywhere you are it is possible to sell your goods and access your personal bank(except for a few places, like Cyrodiil).
    It is very good if you're far away from towns and need to change sets or withdrew important item/s, sell items or deposit to the bank to ease your burden etc.

    I have both assistants and I find their price tags cheap.
    If I were to price them, I would have set the price to 7500-10000 crowns each :)
    Only downside is that the merchant can't repair and the banker doesn't have guild store and guild bank access.
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom If you plan to add additional functionalities to the merchant and the banker in the future, I suggest the following:
    1) If the player already bought the assistants, there will be special tokens which will cost 2500 crowns each.
    This token will upgrade an assistant to have full functionality, like merchant can repair items.
    2) If the player didn't buy the assistants, he will have to pay full price of 7500 crowns in order to have an assistant.
    3) Only full functionality assistants will be available for direct purchase. The assistants with less functionality will retire from the crown store.

    This is pretty scummy if I'm being quite honest

    Nothing is really free :)

    Oh no, not the added functionality.

    Your suggestion of removing current assistants from the crown store.

    I never expected a consumer to suggest such predatory, anti-consumer practices.

    Well, if you leave current assistants, less people will buy the full functionality ones.
    The addition of new assistants should be a good investment for ZOS so removing the old assistants will result in more higher end purchases :)
    My suggestion increases the chance that additional functionality will be added.

    If you assume that people wouldn't pay for the added functionality, why would you have the added functionality as a token in crown store the first place?

    Basically all you're doing is forcing someone to pay 7.5k for something they only need to pay 5k for
    Edited by Valrien on September 7, 2018 1:29PM
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • Universe
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Both Merchant and banker are incredibly useful.
    Anywhere you are it is possible to sell your goods and access your personal bank(except for a few places, like Cyrodiil).
    It is very good if you're far away from towns and need to change sets or withdrew important item/s, sell items or deposit to the bank to ease your burden etc.

    I have both assistants and I find their price tags cheap.
    If I were to price them, I would have set the price to 7500-10000 crowns each :)
    Only downside is that the merchant can't repair and the banker doesn't have guild store and guild bank access.
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom If you plan to add additional functionalities to the merchant and the banker in the future, I suggest the following:
    1) If the player already bought the assistants, there will be special tokens which will cost 2500 crowns each.
    This token will upgrade an assistant to have full functionality, like merchant can repair items.
    2) If the player didn't buy the assistants, he will have to pay full price of 7500 crowns in order to have an assistant.
    3) Only full functionality assistants will be available for direct purchase. The assistants with less functionality will retire from the crown store.

    This is pretty scummy if I'm being quite honest

    Nothing is really free :)

    Oh no, not the added functionality.

    Your suggestion of removing current assistants from the crown store.

    I never expected a consumer to suggest such predatory, anti-consumer practices.

    Well, if you leave current assistants, less people will buy the full functionality ones.
    The addition of new assistants should be a good investment for ZOS so removing the old assistants will result in more higher end purchases :)
    My suggestion increases the chance that additional functionality will be added.

    If you assume that people wouldn't pay for the added functionality, why would you have the added functionality as a token in crown store the first place?

    Basically all you're doing is forcing someone to pay 7.5k for something they only need to pay 5k for

    The added functionality token is for players who bought the old assistants for 5K each(before they retire from the crown store in favor of the new assistants).
    This token will be available at all times if players want to upgrade their assistants.
    Yes, it is forcing players who didn't buy the old assistants to pay 7.5K crowns for the new assistants, but it's not the same since the new assistants will have additional features.
    Edited by Universe on September 7, 2018 1:35PM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • Valrien
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    Universe wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Both Merchant and banker are incredibly useful.
    Anywhere you are it is possible to sell your goods and access your personal bank(except for a few places, like Cyrodiil).
    It is very good if you're far away from towns and need to change sets or withdrew important item/s, sell items or deposit to the bank to ease your burden etc.

    I have both assistants and I find their price tags cheap.
    If I were to price them, I would have set the price to 7500-10000 crowns each :)
    Only downside is that the merchant can't repair and the banker doesn't have guild store and guild bank access.
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom If you plan to add additional functionalities to the merchant and the banker in the future, I suggest the following:
    1) If the player already bought the assistants, there will be special tokens which will cost 2500 crowns each.
    This token will upgrade an assistant to have full functionality, like merchant can repair items.
    2) If the player didn't buy the assistants, he will have to pay full price of 7500 crowns in order to have an assistant.
    3) Only full functionality assistants will be available for direct purchase. The assistants with less functionality will retire from the crown store.

    This is pretty scummy if I'm being quite honest

    Nothing is really free :)

    Oh no, not the added functionality.

    Your suggestion of removing current assistants from the crown store.

    I never expected a consumer to suggest such predatory, anti-consumer practices.

    Well, if you leave current assistants, less people will buy the full functionality ones.
    The addition of new assistants should be a good investment for ZOS so removing the old assistants will result in more higher end purchases :)
    My suggestion increases the chance that additional functionality will be added.

    If you assume that people wouldn't pay for the added functionality, why would you have the added functionality as a token in crown store the first place?

    Basically all you're doing is forcing someone to pay 7.5k for something they only need to pay 5k for

    The added functionality token is for players who bought the old assistants for 5K each(before they retire from the crown store in favor of the new assistants).
    This token will be available at all times if players want to upgrade their assistants.
    Yes, it is forcing players who didn't buy the old assistants to pay 7.5K crowns for the new assistants, but it's not the same since the new assistants will have additional features.

    Are you assuming that people who bought the assistants after this change wouldn't want to upgrade later?

    A big problem with the crowns store is they keep gouging prices but in many cases they lose sales because they just make things prohibitively expensive. So if you do this then less people will pay for a 7500 crown assistant than people who would have paid 5000 + 2500

    I honestly think if everything was half the price they'd make twice as much money.

    The fact that you also can't buy for direct amounts of money is rather scummy because a lot of times you're forced to pay for more than you need
    Edited by Valrien on September 7, 2018 1:39PM
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • Nyladreas
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    You can get these for only a milion gold now thx to gifting.

    Not really too much if u ask me.
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    I'd like them to cost 1000 crowns too. But the cost of a merchant or banker is less than taking the family out for dinner. Much less if you wait for a crown sale or get your free sub crowns. You don't need them. They're a value purchase. Totally worth it to me.
  • JKorr
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    Valrien wrote: »
    smacky wrote: »
    You people do realise you get 1500 crowns per month with ESO+, and you can use those crowns to buy them?

    if you're happy to waste your money on ESO Plus month after month after month. I buy ESO Plus when I need Crowns for DLC.

    ESO+ is probably the highest value item that you can buy with money short of the game itself.

    The crowns alone pay for it.

    are you serious??

    small exp boost, small gold boost, craft bag, crowns. Once you have enough crowns for the DLC you want, spending money on ESO+ is all about the craft bag and getting cosmetic items and homes you could just as easily bought with gold.

    Do you not remember the days when, when you paid for a whole game, you got the whole game for that money and you were done paying for the game?

    Yes, I do.

    I also remember playing the game through, even more than once, and having no more content, and not playing it again. I have fond memories of the Waterdhavian creatures and questing for the half-elven Paladin of Tyr Aribeth de Tylmarande. However I haven't played the original Bioware Neverwinter Nights. I still have the game. I haven't played it in quite a while, because, even though I did get mods, and additional official content for it, I played through everything.

    Eventually they released Shadows of Undrentide which :gasp: I had to pay for. Again, the "whole game", and again, the new content ended despite playing through with several characters.

    Then came Hordes of the Underdark, another "full game", and another game that had a finite amount of content, paid for again. Since I do make multiple characters and replay games, I might get more hours than a player who runs through them once, but still, maybe a hundred hours? [chaotic good Shadowdancer/rogue, you were so much fun]

    Most full games for pc are $60. Even at a hundred hours a game [on the high side], how many would I have had to buy to equal the time I've played ESO?

    Early access, April 2014 is when I started. I sub, and content continues. The game, and the stories aren't finished yet. And there is always stuff to do instead of waiting years for the next expansion/game to come out.

    Not to mention that there are very few "buy the whole game" games out there. And its always cheaper to wait. https://www.pcgamer.com/how-much-should-games-cost/
  • Jayman1000
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    My guess it that the price is just right for ZOS to earn the most from it. There's a sweet spot where the profit is best and I have no doubt that they are setting it as the price it is to hit this sweet spot.
  • LeeNordTank
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    I think it is a fair price for a luxury item.
  • stitchesofdooom
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    Valrien wrote: »
    smacky wrote: »
    You people do realise you get 1500 crowns per month with ESO+, and you can use those crowns to buy them?

    if you're happy to waste your money on ESO Plus month after month after month. I buy ESO Plus when I need Crowns for DLC.

    ESO+ is probably the highest value item that you can buy with money short of the game itself.

    The crowns alone pay for it.

    are you serious??

    small exp boost, small gold boost, craft bag, crowns. Once you have enough crowns for the DLC you want, spending money on ESO+ is all about the craft bag and getting cosmetic items and homes you could just as easily bought with gold.

    Do you not remember the days when, when you paid for a whole game, you got the whole game for that money and you were done paying for the game?

    Do you not remember the days when you paid for a whole game, you got a whole game that was not connected to the internet to play with other people and you were done paying for the game and the "updates" to the game was a new game you paid for again and had to start over from the beginning?

    Zen is raking in the cash. Overpricing. Day one patches are neccessary because games are released bugged to all hell.
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
    PCMR EU.
  • stitchesofdooom
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    LeeTemplar wrote: »
    I think it is a fair price for a luxury item.

    did you even read the OP properly, or just the subject heading.
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
    PCMR EU.
  • El_Borracho
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    Settle down. ESO Plus is not cheap, and it costs real money. Yet, a lot of us have ESO Plus because you get access to a lot of content, and the convenience of double bank spots and the craft bag is overwhelming. And you get crowns with ESO Plus that a lot of people will use to get the banker, because again, it is very, very convenient, especially in trial runs.

    If you don't like the personal banker, which is shared across all of your characters, then don't buy it. Buy bank and bag upgrades. But I got news for you, that's going to cost you a lot of gold, too.
  • Valrien
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    Settle down. ESO Plus is not cheap, and it costs real money. Yet, a lot of us have ESO Plus because you get access to a lot of content, and the convenience of double bank spots and the craft bag is overwhelming. And you get crowns with ESO Plus that a lot of people will use to get the banker, because again, it is very, very convenient, especially in trial runs.

    If you don't like the personal banker, which is shared across all of your characters, then don't buy it. Buy bank and bag upgrades. But I got news for you, that's going to cost you a lot of gold, too.

    Or crowns!
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
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